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Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
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It feels like every Nintendo DS visual novel and the story sort of fizzles out into nothing after a strongish start.

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Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

I don't know what this means.

Instead of Saw movies japan had a fad of releasing a lot of "Visual Novel" videogame stories based on "a large number of people are trapped in an enclosed area and have to decide who dies". Several of them have that sort of red and black trianglely and big black orb visual motif that this movie used.

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:

The Zero Escape series is probably the most famous example of what owlofcreamcheese is talking about over on our side of the Pacific.

Danganronpa probobly kicked it off although they all seem like more and more boiled down versions of like gantz or battle royal. Now there is a million of them.

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May 22, 2005
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Firstborn posted:

Belko Experiment and another one starring Glenn from TWD also came out last year. And two video games that are strictly "battle royale" based, so much so that it's become a subgenre now.

At some level almost every death match based videogame is based on "what if everyone was in an area and everyone had to kill each other" but it really did feel like tone wise and visual style wise this was drawing really hard on the current set of "psychological" story based vote someone off the island to death stuff that has the same sort of story about protecting an innocent vs the greed of man or whatever.

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
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It does feel like a movie where a lot of the characters in the movie have and express really terrible opinions and it feels equally likely that the authors of the film would say "we aren't the characters in this movie, just because they something doesn't mean we are pushing that opinion" and that they'd say "yeah, that's our opinion, we had characters turn the the camera and state the point, how much more clear could we make it?". Like people in this movie with bad opinions do die, but so does everyone so it's hard to tell how much bad opinion = comeuppance and how much the movie was going for "he had a point you know" on some of it.

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:

this is one of the very few movies that I would ever call actively dangerous to society, because it takes a staggeringly loving awful viewpoint and exists entirely as a way to compel people into agreeing with it

What about that horror movie where a bunch of women were kidnapped from an abortion clinic and forced to give birth and it was an anti abortion movie where all the women learned a lesson about not getting abortions (and also they were actually in hell). What the heck was that movie even called it had someone vaguely famous in it.

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

Are you talking about The Life Zone??

yes, it sucked because it wasn't even funny bad

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Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

That movie is truly batshit.

a review I found online:

The pregnant women are often tortured by dreams of death and despair -- montages of swarming bees, swirling tornadoes and speeches by Hitler one night, African-Americans and foreigners shouting "abort me" in foreign tongues the next -- while Dr. Wise experiences flashbacks to the dissolution of her marriage which fell apart when she learned she couldn't bear children. Her parents cursed her for not taking better care of her body, a poor diet, too much work, while her husband -- The Karate Kid's bad sensei Martin Kove -- divorces her, leaving her for a woman capable of having his children, a moment that pushes Dr. Wise to desperate measures.

All three women deliver and finally the first of the plot's twists are revealed. Staci, most opposed to pregnancy, is blessed with two children - twins - while her fellow captives only give birth to one baby each.

Later, Staci wakes up. The two new mothers are no longer captives, they've presumably ascended to heaven with their babies. It's revealed all along the women had been in Purgatory, after having died on the operating table of abortion clinics. But because Staci attempted to miscarry even after a second chance at motherhood, and because she never accepted the error of her ways until she experienced the physical joy of giving birth, of seeing her children for the first time, she will be doomed to eternity in Hell.

Loggia is Satan and he informs Staci she will spend all eternity in a cycle of pregnancy and childbirth and Dr. Wise will forever be her doctor, as the movie's final twist plays out: Wise too will spend eternity in Hell. She was so weak she committed suicide when her marriage collapsed and must suffer the fate of forever bringing life into the world, endlessly having to appreciate what she did not value on Earth.

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