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wyoak
Feb 14, 2005

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I begrudge no one who wants to skip lift lines, most of my days on the mountain are spent planning how to minimize my time in them

Also Vonn spent a bunch of her life skiing in Vail so I especially understand wanting to skip lift lines

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wyoak
Feb 14, 2005

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Shiffrin....shook!?

wyoak
Feb 14, 2005

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Man the rest of the field gets no respect

Is winning from a late position that rare?

wyoak
Feb 14, 2005

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HookShot posted:

In a word, yes.

In speed events (it's slightly different in tech) the people ranked 1-10 in the world all get to choose the odd-numbered bibs between 1 and 19.

Then, the people ranked 11-20 in the world are all put into a random draw to get the odd numbered bibs between 2 and 20.

The people ranked 20 to 30 are then drawn with those bib numbers, and then it goes in order based on world ranking (ie. bib 31 is the 31st ranked, 32 is 32nd ranked, etc). So when you get back there, it becomes a lot less likely. They're just not as good.

Super G and downhill are basically the only events where you will ever see this sort of thing happen, and it's still actually quite rare, especially for the win. In tech it's almost impossible because it's a two-run race and everything that comes with (getting into your own head, ruts, it just being more technical, that sort of thing). Dustin Cook for Canada came 2nd at World Champs in 2015 from bib 28, Lara Gut came second in a downhill in 2008 from a bib number in the 30s in one of her first world cup (and would have won if she didn't eat it just before the finish line), but I'm actually really hard pressed to remember any other times when it's happened in recent memory. I think Sofia Goggia came from a high bib number to get 4th at World Champs in 2013. But it seriously is so super rare.
Makes sense thanks!

And as I type this apparently number 26 came out and is in first!

wyoak
Feb 14, 2005

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Haha her reaction was amazing

wyoak
Feb 14, 2005

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Rip ligament and Ligety

wyoak
Feb 14, 2005

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Vonn nooooo

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wyoak
Feb 14, 2005

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HookShot posted:

Also I'm super sick and everything sucks but that was a really awesome result for Gisin, I wasn't surprised after Shiffrin had a rather average downhill run and Gisin had a great one.

Even if she'd made it to the finish, I'd have been shocked if Lindsey was going to podium. She really isn't good at slalom anymore (though she trains it more than she pretends to - the entire time she was in NZ at the same time as I was this year she was on the short skis) and would have needed a bigger buffer in the downhill. Canadian Valerie Grenier did amazingly well though, her slalom run was only 1.3 seconds back after a good downhill run, too.

Kristoffersen going out was legit a huge surprise. So was Hirscher, but Kristoffersen has something like 6 DNFs in his entire FIS career. That's so insanely rare, especially for a slalom specialist, where most people have a DNF rate in the 20-50% range. Hirscher is also pretty consistent, but not quite as much. And Kristoffersen has dealt with the pressure and handled it really well in the past. I think on World Cup he has won every single race where he's been the leader after the first run. It was very surprising, but made for an insanely exciting finish.

Tall Swiss Dude just sitting down on the ground when he was a confirmed medal winner was super
How big a deal was the short slalom course? It seemed like less turns would have meant a much better chance for Vonn to podium if she had actually finished, and it probably screwed Shiffrin since she had less turns to make up time, but I don't know how big a difference it was in the end.

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