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Kazak_Hstan posted:What is your goal? LOL, I just really like ski racing. I have literally absolutely no hope of ever being on world cup, I started doing it in my mid-20s and still regularly get my rear end kicked by teenagers (though I'm now better than most U14s!) I also prefer the speed events, which there are not a lot of options for in masters ski racing (at least in Canada, I know Masters is wayyyyyyyy bigger in the States). There's essentially one downhill race a year, and it's extremely mellow. Last year I got (I think) 9 Super G starts and 2 DH, and that was with the main speed series of the year being cancelled after we got a meter of snow in the middle of it. I'd like to ideally be a decent FIS-level ski racer. If I could get under 150 points, or even better, under 100 points, I'd be extremely happy. Ski racing has made me so much better a skier than I ever could have imagined I would be otherwise. I went from being barely able to get down a black run to being able to rip almost anything in-bounds in just a couple of years.
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Thanks guys, yeah, I'm super lucky that I'm able to pursue it on a number of levels. From being able to work whenever so I can train a few times a week, to my local club accepting me in the FIS program when they got rid of Masters, there's a lot of things that I'm very thankful for and a lot of people that have really helped me do this, which is awesome, and I love it so much.
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Feb 21, 2018 01:57
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Well, sadly there are going to be a lot of happy Trump supporters tonight, which always sucks. But I'm thrilled for Goggia. Assuming she wins (it's far less likely that someone pulls a Ledecka in downhill because of the training runs, Super G is much more ripe for surprises) it's going to be the first time ever the woman who won the test event also won the Olympics, and the first time an Italian woman wins downhill gold. She seriously sent it at the bottom of that run. Mowinckel also. You could see her really, really fighting for that tuck, and I honestly thought as she was coming to the line that she had it.
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Feb 21, 2018 04:21
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Ola posted:Woop, another medal for Mowinckel! She made big progress mid season, going from top 15 to podium contender having figured out some mysterious something. Great timing! Yeah, about a month ago she really did go from regularly in the 10-15 range to regularly in the 4-8 range, and then took it up another notch at the Olympics. I was expecting her to podium in GS, and thought she was a potential in Super G, but I didn't expect her to in DH, which was her worst event of the three and the only one where she still wasn't really pushing for that podium regularly. Super happy for her, it's really awesome that she peaked at the right time.
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Feb 21, 2018 16:26
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Men's Slalom Run 1 start 8:00pm EST Women's Alpine Combined Run 1 start at 9:30pm EST Men's slalom run 2 start 11:30pm EST Women's Alpine Combined run 2 start at 1:00am EST (Feb 22) Watch for the Hirscher/Shiffrin double. It's the expected result, and honestly I would be surprised if there was anything else. Kristoffersen should give Hirscher the biggest competition, and Manuel Feller will be the most entertaining who will either do really well or blow out like he did in the GS. On the women's side, I honestly don't think anyone's going to come close, assuming no huge mistakes from Shiffrin. I'm expecting a Shiffrin/Gisin/Brignone podium. HookShot fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Feb 21, 2018 |
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Feb 21, 2018 16:34
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PostNouveau posted:What's with the extra poles in the slalom? It's hard to tell how they know to ignore them. They’re the gates that “close” the combinations. I’m on my phone so can’t do it now but I’ll draw a picture later to explain it.
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Feb 22, 2018 06:11
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Slalom is single pole now  But yeah, thanks for drawing that while I was watching the hockey lol. It's usually fairly obvious when you're actually skiing which gate is the exit one and which one is the next turning gate, but I have definitely DNFed a couple of races by going around the exit gate of a combo and it's super embarassing to do 
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Feb 22, 2018 08:35
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Also I'm super sick and everything sucks but that was a really awesome result for Gisin, I wasn't surprised after Shiffrin had a rather average downhill run and Gisin had a great one. Even if she'd made it to the finish, I'd have been shocked if Lindsey was going to podium. She really isn't good at slalom anymore (though she trains it more than she pretends to - the entire time she was in NZ at the same time as I was this year she was on the short skis) and would have needed a bigger buffer in the downhill. Canadian Valerie Grenier did amazingly well though, her slalom run was only 1.3 seconds back after a good downhill run, too. Kristoffersen going out was legit a huge surprise. So was Hirscher, but Kristoffersen has something like 6 DNFs in his entire FIS career. That's so insanely rare, especially for a slalom specialist, where most people have a DNF rate in the 20-50% range. Hirscher is also pretty consistent, but not quite as much. And Kristoffersen has dealt with the pressure and handled it really well in the past. I think on World Cup he has won every single race where he's been the leader after the first run. It was very surprising, but made for an insanely exciting finish. Tall Swiss Dude just sitting down on the ground when he was a confirmed medal winner was super 
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Feb 22, 2018 08:49
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African AIDS cum posted:Thats why I just follow the ruts. Never lets me down I am definitely a rut follower in slalom too. So much easier than actually inspecting. It's not as embarassing as a friend of mine who went into the men's course right at the beginning of the race (they set men's and women's courses next to each other at the same time, but only run one at a time) and didn't notice until she was 1/3 of the way down haha. Slalom is an amazing event to completely embarrass yourself in.
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Feb 22, 2018 08:51
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wyoak posted:How big a deal was the short slalom course? It seemed like less turns would have meant a much better chance for Vonn to podium if she had actually finished, and it probably screwed Shiffrin since she had less turns to make up time, but I don't know how big a difference it was in the end. It wasn't so short that it would have made a difference, 40 seconds is pretty standard as an alpine combined slalom course. I'm pretty sure the one at World Champs was basically the same length. I've actually raced full, regulation FIS-length courses that were shorter than that (38 seconds for the winner by someone with 25 slalom points, so probably 3-5 seconds slower than Holdener would have done it). Watching how Lindsey was skiing I'm like 95% sure she wouldn't have been in front of Shiffrin at the finish. Probably not even in front of Holdener. 1.3 seconds at the finish line of a world cup slalom run is generally the difference between first and maybe eighth. When Shiffrin is hot it's often the difference between her and third place. But all the same, even if you considered the shorter run, putting up a time that would beat Shiffrin and stay in front of that 1.3 second lead would involve basically having the equivalent of a world cup top 10 result, and Vonn is literally nowhere near that right now. She had bled away her entire lead by the first interval, and she hadn't even gotten to the hardest part of the course yet. Even if she'd finished Vonn wasn't going to be on that podium. Slalom is seriously a mother fucker of an event. It's actually super hard to get into the rhythm and make those small turns if you're not used to it, and Lindsey hasn't been ranked top 10 in the world in slalom in about eight years. She did spend the entire time she was in NZ this summer at the same time as I was training it, but it absolutely wasn't enough compared to the women who train it week-in, week-out and who race it every week as well. As for Shiffrin, I don't think a longer course would have helped her, she was skiing super stiffly and if anything the shorter course helped her stop bleeding time. It was definitely the worst slalom skiing I've seen from Shiffrin in a loooooong time.
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Proteus Jones posted:Shiffrin really, really needs to get that nerve problem under control. It may have been ramped up because Olympics, but it definitely affected her performance in most of her events. I think it was more exhaustion than nerves, honestly. This is her first major event where she's competed in more than just the GS and the slalom. On top of doing those two races, she had to do three full DH training runs (which are loving stressful, much more so than tech races, no matter how good you are) and the combined race, and she had to deal with two races being cancelled (which mentally is entirely as difficult as actually racing on the day) and having the slalom and GS being moved to back-to-back races, so she had to race less than 24 hours after winning Olympic gold. It's not like she can't perform on the world stage. She got gold in Sochi, going in as the heavy favourite. She's the only woman in the modern era to be World Champ in slalom three times in a row, and she's the reigning silver medalist in the GS at world champs as well. She's performed every single time on the big stage, the only difference being this was her first experience of doing it with the full schedule, and I think that impacted her performance more than nerves. I might be wrong, but I doubt it.
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Team event is tonight at 9pm EST This is the newest event in the Olympics because it's ~*~spectator friendly~*~ in a sport that's bleeding viewers. Personally I think it's kind of dumb, but it's also my country's best chance at a medal because for some inexplicable reason we're really good at it (that reason is probably that they practice a lot, but I assume so do other countries). Basically, every country has four people that will race head to head, two men and two women. At the end, whoever has the fastest combined time moves on. At least, I'm assuming that's how it works. I've legit never actually watched a team event in full because it honestly bores me, and I've never raced an official one because there's like no way to assign FIS points to them. Anyway go Canada. Here's the list of the brackets: AUT KOR (lol those poor Koreans) SWE SLO USA GBR NOR OAR ITA CZE FRA CAN GER SVK SUI HUN If you're looking for favourites, the answer is who the gently caress knows. This is an event that literally only gets raced at world champs and maybe world cup finals? So like once or twice a year, tops. Austria, France, Switzerland are all good bets. Canada is a dark horse. A good chunk of the former alpine team just won medals in ski cross so they'll be amped up by that too. America will probably suck for those of you hoping for another team USA medal, but at least their first round is against team GB who I honestly didn't realize had four athletes at these games sooooo. HookShot fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Feb 23, 2018 |
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bawfuls posted:Is the team event GS or? I THINK it's glalom, so like probably 16-18 meters between gates (for those who are unaware there are around 10-12 meters between slalom gates and 22-24 between GS gates). It's definitely not a dual GS, if it's not glalom it's dual slalom. edit: Nope, the internet tells me it's dual slalom, 10 meters between gates. More potential for carnage.
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Feb 23, 2018 23:57
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I dug up the results from the last 5 times this event has been run: 2017 WCF: Sweden Germany France 2017 WC: France Slovakia Sweden 2016 WCF: Switzerland Germany Sweden 2015 WCF: Switzerland Sweden Austria 2015 WC: Austria Canada Sweden So yeah, five results and you're going back three years. The Swedes are favourites for sure, but they are going to be significantly less consistently good at this as everyone else figures out how to double hand the gates out of the way, which is teh method the Swedish dudes use that's so efficient, which they have definitely been doing more and more on WC in the city events.
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Feb 24, 2018 00:22
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bawfuls posted:This is a weird rear end event What do you mean you don’t want to watch ski racing for like four hours and 100 different runs through the same 20 gates?
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Feb 24, 2018 03:32
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bawfuls posted:Why the hell would they use panel gates for what is obviously a slalom? It’s easier for newcomers to the sport to understand, I guess.
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Yeah, you’re not going to find any argument here.
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Feb 24, 2018 03:39
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Rated PG-34 posted:so it's wins with time as the tie breaker? Yup.
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Feb 24, 2018 04:37
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Yeah, it's actually fair and even here, unlike world cup city events where they don't swap sides in the later rounds because it's only one run LOL.
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Rated PG-34 posted:how do they determine the matchup I have literally no idea, sorry.
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