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Owlofcreamcheese posted:There is plenty of hot takes you can still be making if you really must, but it feels hard to believe anyone in 2018 is still trying to beat the "both parties are the same" drum. They fundamentally are on economics; don't pretend otherwise with your silly South Park jabs, you goober.
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Neither is socialist so... It's always funny when people still pretend the DNC and Hillary would have reigned in banks, corporate power, monopolies, and Wall Street if elected, even though the DNC and Hillary took more money from all of them than Trump did. But no guys, the two parties are different! 
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Feb 13, 2018 22:20
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Condiv posted:i'm of the opinion that voting for the lesser evil enables said evil to maintain and/or grow its control over the dem party. for example, the dem party apparatus being used to block progressive candidates and help manchins and emmanuels be elected instead. the manchins and emmanuels of the dem party then use what influence you give them by electing them to make sure you will never get a choice but them. This. The current Democratic Party is nothing more than a neoliberal technocrat Party. Voting for them is like voting for Jeff Bezos or Mark Zuckerberg for President; indeed, they don't talk poo poo about minorities and the poor (at least publicly), but they're doing everything they can behind to scenes do destroy labor and labor rights in order to maximize profits. The Dems have shown no intention of doing anything about the wealth gap; there's simply too much money to made for the DNC by taking hundreds of millions of dollars from Silicon Valley and Wall Street. Did I mention the DNC seems to be even more pro-war than the loving RNC over the last couple of years?
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Feb 14, 2018 00:50
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socialsecurity posted:Give a single example of the DNC being more pro-war then the RNC. The DNC's Russophobia scare is doing wonders for those Defense Contractor coffers right now, for one. Also, the DNC's record on helping Israel exterminate Palestinians is just as bad as the RNC's, too. Owlofcreamcheese posted:You know the word "technocrat" has nothing to do with web apps or technology people, right? I don't think you know what technocrat means.
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Feb 14, 2018 00:57
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socialsecurity posted:Russophobia implies that they are somehow erratically worried about Russia when they shouldn't be? Could you elaborate on that. There's already a thread on this. My general point was that the DNC is pro-war because their actions over the last two decades illustrate that they are (especially Hillary). Owlofcreamcheese posted:It's stupid to just call everything that doesn't agree with you "evil" then pack up your brain and stop thinking. Some policies are evil, some are wrong. Just declaring it a war of good and evil and that everyone is evil is just a short cut to not thinking. The DNC undermining attempts at single-payer, free college, and opposition to war from progressives is not evil in your view?
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Feb 14, 2018 01:23
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Kemper Boyd posted:Žižek pointed out that Obamas, Clintons and Macrons are the way you get victories for Trumps and Le Pens. I stopped voting once I realized that we don't live in a Democracy.
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Feb 14, 2018 23:21
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punk rebel ecks posted:Why is it so controversial to put forth the notion that you have to give voters a reason to vote for you to make them go out to vote for you? Because establishment Democrats like Hillary, Pelosi, and Schumer have an obscene and arrogant sense of entitlement to your votes. All they do is talk about how awful the republicans are without offering any significant alternative to them on policy. Incessantly calling Trump orange Hitler who's under the command of Putin through the Kremlin's palantir 24/7 isn't fooling anybody one paycheck away from homelessness. The current DNC is actively trying to undermine potential 2018 and 2020 candidates who support single-payer, for instance. They're loving worthless, and forget these assholes like Potato Salad who insist on us voting for these bought off hacks who are nothing more than republicans who don't publicly say awful things about gay people.
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Mar 4, 2018 01:06
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Look at this goon quoting himself instead of engaging with every poster who has already dismantled his incredibly lovely arguments over the last 10 pages.
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Mar 4, 2018 04:08
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Democrats are nothing more than socially liberal republicans, and that is being charitable. They're still right-wing as gently caress.
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Apr 29, 2018 01:39
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phasmid posted:See I vote for the lesser of two evils because I like to get hosed to death slower. But forums poster Potato Salad assured me when  told Wall Street to "cut it out," she meant it.
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Jaxyon posted:Oh we're doing this one then? OK You do you know the democrats voted to give hundreds of millions to Trump and the military right And can you please stop pretending the democrats have given a poo poo about poverty in the last 40 years It's embarrassing
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Jaxyon posted:Man it's amazing you managed to extrapolate my entire belief system from one sentence posts and that definitely is not at all you trying to make me into a strawman. well gee sir this is the first time i've seen you post Am I supposed to know who you are
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It's pretty funny to watch Jaxyon and botany insist that neoliberal dems are owed our votes Now who else have I seen say th—  oh..
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Apr 30, 2018 22:55
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botany and Jaxyon telling us the party of superdelegates cares about democracy now man the hits keep on coming
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Apr 30, 2018 22:59
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Even the republicans haven't done anything as bad to democracy like kicking it in the nuts with superdelegates like the Democrats did just loving ponder that for a moment and still insist that these fuckers still deserve your vote
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Apr 30, 2018 23:02
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I'd like to vote for single-payer and no more war in the primaries, but then I realized my vote will be nullified by some rear end in a top hat bought off by google at the conventions But yeah this party still deserves my vote
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Apr 30, 2018 23:04
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https://twitter.com/NomikiKonst/status/992508910190899205 the dems are a waste
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May 5, 2018 17:15
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If the Democrat Party refuses to give up superdelegates by 2020, then I really don't give a poo poo if the dispossessed masses burn that loving convention to the ground.
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Condiv posted:they're thinking about boosting the number and making people unable to run in primaries without the blessing of the party elites You might as well seek asylum in another Western Country if the superdelegate system stays the way it is by 2020
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