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hosed-Up Little Dog posted:What an odd thing to feel the need to do now. Yeah what's the story with this? Is it just a response to the general political climate out there or what.
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Conch Shell Corp posted:They had absolutely no problem starting world war one, and most historians assign the lions share of the blame to them for initiating it due to unconditionally supporting Austria, which invoked that chain of alliances. This is the key link in the chain, as Austria would not go to war with Russia and Serbia alone. I dunno about "most historians", from what I recall in my history classes ww2 basically was a ww1 aftershock and the climate that facilitated hitler's rise to power was p much entirely because of treaties following ww1.
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Conch Shell Corp posted:read the effortpost above. the peace treaty was exceedingly lenient considering half of the French men of fighting age died in the war, and is probably the most lenient peace treaty in history considering what the victors sacrificed to win. I'm not a history major I'm just saying what I learned, I can't personally counter the unsourced effort post because I'm not an expert in the field. I was simply disagreeing with the idea that historians were rallied around the idea that nazi germany came about because germans were cartoonish villains, the books and lectures I received as part of my history education in school all generally pointed to the idea that germany was experiencing hard economic times related to the treaties following ww1 and rallied around nationalism as a way out. Not saying that's an accurate portrayal of how things went down just that it's a common enough view among the people who write the books and teach the classes.
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Feb 14, 2018 07:16
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maybe we could have avoided all the trouble in the middle east and africa if we just exterminated everyone and colonized it ourselves, really makes you think
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Feb 14, 2018 07:36
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Randarkman posted:You want me to provide footnotes and a bibliography to GBS post? Are you insane? Wouldn't be the first or last time our history education led us astray because it was more convenient than the reality of the matter but it's just not gonna win anyone any credit to pretend like it's just common undisputed fact. It's interesting insight and I appreciate you going through the effort to write about it.
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