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LinYutang
Oct 12, 2016

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bloom posted:

There's a pc remaster of XII now but the combat in that always looked terrible and it's 50 bucks so lol nope.

Ff12 was definitely the worst one

I don't think it even had a plot

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Oct 12, 2016

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Cloud and Tifa do NOT do sex

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Vincent was the worst character. Grimdark ninja who adds nothing to the plot or game really

Yuffie had the entertaining sidequest at least

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Oct 12, 2016

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I should probably play ff9

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Iirc x2 undid all of the interesting plot things in X, which was surprisingly dark and good

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Oct 12, 2016

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You don't even kill God in ffx2

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I just watched a video of ffx and holy christ voice acting was so bad then

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The White Dragon posted:

It has come to light in the past couple years that it really wasn't the voice actors' fault. As it turns out, FFX was hard-coded so strictly that they basically had to sync the duration and pacing of their voice clips to the approximate length of the original Japanese audio files, or the game would crash :psyduck:

Unbelievable

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Oct 12, 2016

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MGS2 came out a few months later too and had amazing voice / localization

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FFX2 was a pretty shameless cash grab when squaresoft was dying

The "plot choice" in the game was between "Reformed" Nazis and Cool Young Technoliberals lol

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Japan: "it's time to make a game featuring strong female characters"

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Plot choice is overrated, FF is good because they are (usually) well told stories that sometimes make u thimk

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The real plot hole is "how did jecht get to Spira"

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Maybe it's explained away at some point I don't remember

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Ff7 did not explain well at all that you were actually chasing and fighting Jenova instead of Sephiroth and some of this was the lovely graphics not making clear that "Sephiroth" was transforming into Jenova

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There's mods for ff7 which improve the graphics and character models smh

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Xenosaga is peak jrpg, booby ninja robots speaking in Very Serious Tones about kaballah

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duck trucker posted:

As someone who never played xenogears and has a bare-bones understanding of the plot from Wikipedia, from the outside looking in that game looks loving insane.

It was fun but porbly has aged terribly

All of the Reverse Orientalism writing re Kaballah is just not that good

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Pretty lol to think that the Japanese discovered the Old Testament in the mid 90s apparently and pumped out Evangelion xenogears ff7 et al

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FactsAreUseless posted:

It's still good, but the platforming sections are still bad and the game is still unfinished. So I'd say it's about the same as it was.

difference is we're older and japan using hebrew words for jrpg character names isn't so impressive

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FactsAreUseless posted:

That wasn't what made the game good.

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Meme Emulator posted:

Ive always been in the minority here but I never understood the love for 9. I know it was touted as a return to form but I just thought it was boring. And I hate it when a villain goes "If I cant live forever Im going to destroy everything :smugbird: "

I started playing 9 and it's honestly kind of dull and balanced weirdly.

I'm outside lindblum and every random monster is destroying me and I don't have a healer character wtf

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Rutibex posted:

voice acting is the bane of RPGs in general. its basically impossible to make an interesting branching dialogue system when you have to pay for every line

Witcher does it well and it adds a lot

Like ppl actually have accents that inform their characters

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Leaving Midgar to a series of bog standard Final Fantasy Villages was definitely a let down

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How did anyone even get aeris's level 4 limit doesn't she have to kill a billion enemies

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i'm on disc 2 of ff9 and not feeling why everyone thinks it's so amazing. there's been basically no plot and the combat system is underwhelming

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if it's a character piece i'd like some hints at character development 7 hours in

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I gave up on FF9. It really has not aged well at all, even in the context to the other PS1 games. The battles are so loving slow. the soundtrack calls back to better OSTs like Ff6 but is way less memorable. The writing is just painfully immature, like there's a big dramatic beat where Zidane finds out he's an alien or something and there's an extremely bad Power Of Friendship montage that made me stop playing

I then went through ffx and that game is still really good. The battles are fun and fast, even if there's not much strategy. The story is actually really compelling, like the entire main quest being a pointless human sacrifice ritual, you succeed in saving the heroine but the hero dies, etc. The soundtrack is really good, the fun modern jazz stuff is really different from other games.

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Tidus's dorkness has a story component because he's too clueless to pick up on the fact that Yuna is on a quest to kill herself and he hates himself for it later

The story has layers and is worth replaying for

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There hasn't been a phenomenon like ff7. The fact that Square is remaking it is the surest sign they've just given up on creating new content

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Also Xenogears has a more vocal fanbase than ff8. Remake that

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zenguitarman posted:

It's better than something dumb in German, which Japanese people have some weird obsession with.

Also mangling Jewish mysticism

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Aeris is smiling when she is stabbed because cgi had not improved to have any other expressions

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Extra Large Marge posted:

The guy who created Final Fantasy quit Squaresoft in 2003.

He made a bad movie and bankrupted the company so it's on him

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The FFX battle system would have gone from great to best if the strategy didn't boil down to Substitute In Character Strong Against Monster

You also couldn't do interesting customization of the characters until way late in the game

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Mgs4 got perfect scores. Reviewers get way to sucked into the hype

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Elentor posted:

Whatever money FFVIIR makes will not make up for the 100 million dollars spent on the FFVIIR: Shinra SOLDIERS the movie.

they're still making more movies??

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