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Starshark
Dec 22, 2005
Doctor Rope
Can you think of any movies where they could've cut about an hour of crap out of it and still have a movie? 'Cause when I do, I immediately think of Michael Cimino.

Deer Hunter

One of the first American movies to critically look at the Vietnam War (I think the first one was Coming Home which came out the same year). It starts with a wedding scene that goes for fifty loving years. Sure, it tells us about the characters, but you could do it in about ten minutes. Ken Miyamoto argues here that it had to be that long but he's full of loving poo poo. I nearly didn't watch the movie because I was waiting for it to start. gently caress off, Ken.

Heaven's Gate

Has a god-drat graduation scene in the beginning which I think literally goes for half an hour (that's a long time to watch people throw paper and dance around trees) and does as much as the wedding scene in Deer Hunter, ie gently caress-all. I don't even care what Miyamoto thinks about this one, I stopped watching after fifteen minutes. You won't do that to me twice, Cimino.

So, post your movies that could've used more editing time here. I haven't seen a super hero movie in a while, but I understand there's a few 'director's cuts' versions of them that didn't need to get made.

Heaven's Gate. Jesus Christ I'm glad I didn't see it - just look at this scene, it looks like loving Plan Nine!

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mercenarynuker
Sep 10, 2008

The interminable docking scene near the start of 2001. Cool, zero g airlines, great. But I think I could handle a little bit less spaceship porn and still get the general gist of it. One of the Star Trek movies (I think it's The Motion Picture) does something similar. That at least has the fallback of "well no one had seen it in x years and we want to play on their sentimentality!"

GonSmithe
Apr 25, 2010

Perhaps it's in the nature of television. Just waves in space.
The entire first hour of Downsizing could have been cut out and the movie would have been better for it.

HP Hovercraft
Jan 1, 2006

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Both of those are much better than The Godfather, and about the same length.

Mirage
Oct 27, 2000

All is for the best, in this, the best of all possible worlds

mercenarynuker posted:

One of the Star Trek movies (I think it's The Motion Picture) does something similar. That at least has the fallback of "well no one had seen it in x years and we want to play on their sentimentality!"

TMP has several parts that just draaaaag, particularly the Enterprise-in-drydock scene (I was a fanboy at the time and still wanted to shout "Get on with it!" by the end) and the flying-over-V'ger sequence. It made me even more embarrassed to be a nerd than I already was.

From the opposite end of the spectrum: Transformers: Age of Extinction. Oh look, another chase sequence. Oh look, another explosion. Heh. I'm sure being entertained by this.

Pneub
Mar 12, 2007

I'M THE DEVIL, AND I WILL WASH OVER THE EARTH AND THE SEAS WILL RUN RED WITH THE BLOOD OF ALL THE SINNERS

I AM REBORN
Godfather 2's the best example of an already good movie I can think of where it wouldn't even come close to effecting the actual plot of the movie.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer

mercenarynuker posted:

The interminable docking scene near the start of 2001.

Whoa this movie sounds a lot more hardcore than I remember

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

Zodiac. it's one of two movies i've walked out of the theater for in my life, the other being First Kid with Sinbad (and i was a kid when i saw that). after the first 15 minutes or so, absolutely nothing happens, and the suspense didn't keep me interested. it deserved to be an Oscar snub that year

fight me, bitches. this is the hill i've chosen to die on

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



GonSmithe posted:

The entire first hour of Downsizing could have been cut out and the movie would have been better for it.

Same except the last hour. Just end it when he gets shrunk and brutally owned while his wife runs off. The end.

Chill Penguin
Jan 10, 2004

you know korky buchek?
can't think of one at the moment, sorry OP

Chill Penguin
Jan 10, 2004

you know korky buchek?
Just saw Annihilation

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord
So many 70s movies could be half their length and wouldn't suffer at all

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World
The Dark Knight Rises is so goddamn bloated, holy poo poo.

Aix
Jul 6, 2006
$10
gandhi. had two take this baby on in two separate sessions wtf my pandici

super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009

EL BROMANCE posted:

Same except the last hour. Just end it when he gets shrunk and brutally owned while his wife runs off. The end.

Seriously, take out the first hour and you could probably replace shrinking with any other scenario and not lose anything except a couple crappy sight gags that only exist to remind the audience it's a film about tiny people.

The ending though, that was peak wokeness. The underclass have a better life because he's helping ferry the table scraps the rich graciously give him.

TV Zombie
Sep 6, 2011

Burying all the trauma from past nights
Burying my anger in the past

Could the Lord of the Rings movies be cut down or do they need all of their runtime...and can still be interesting? I always seem to catch Desolation of Smaug midway through on cable channels and it never hooks me in.

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




Heriditary. Someone out there could cut this thing down to 70 minutes and nothing of value would be lost.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

TV Zombie posted:

Could the Lord of the Rings movies be cut down or do they need all of their runtime...and can still be interesting? I always seem to catch Desolation of Smaug midway through on cable channels and it never hooks me in.

That's The Hobbit movie series, they're all bad, don't bother.

The LOTR movies OTOH are fine, just skip the extended cuts and watch the shorter (but still pretty long!) theatrical cuts.

super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009

sean10mm posted:

That's The Hobbit movie series, they're all bad, don't bother.

Just watch the scene at Bilbo's house and stop there.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


banned from Starbucks posted:

Heriditary. Someone out there could cut this thing down to 70 minutes and nothing of value would be lost.

Apparently the original cut was over 3 hours long

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

The Dark Knight Rises would have been a better movie if the first hour after the opening plane scene had been trimmed to maybe a few minutes. I'm convinced that Christopher Nolan just released it "as-is" without finishing the edit. It really does come off as a rough cut .

I'm hoping someday Peter Jackson tries out a recut of The Hobbit as one 3 1/2 hour movie. I know someone did a bootleg cut along those lines, but it's weird how I can watch all 12 hours of The Lord of the Rings extended cuts and not feel like it's one second too long while the theatrical cuts of The Hobbit films are a chore.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Cut the entire second half of Full Metal Jacket, expand on the first half and just make the whole movie about the awful process of dehumanization that military training puts you through.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

WampaLord posted:

Cut the entire second half of Full Metal Jacket, expand on the first half and just make the whole movie about the awful process of dehumanization that military training puts you through.

Are you serious

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

WampaLord posted:

Cut the entire second half of Full Metal Jacket, expand on the first half and just make the whole movie about the awful process of dehumanization that military training puts you through.

Lol

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

im going to go see Jeanne Dielman, 23, quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles this week, can't wait.

ol yeller
Feb 20, 2015

In Training posted:

im going to go see Jeanne Dielman, 23, quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles this week, can't wait.

they should have cut all the parts where shes doing dishes or cooking and replaced them with lightsaber battles.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

ol yeller posted:

they should have cut all the parts where shes doing dishes or cooking and replaced them with lightsaber battles.

Lol

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

*said really loudly in the theatre in hour 3 of the TV cut of Fanny and Alexander* Guess this guy never hired an editor huh.

ol yeller
Feb 20, 2015
oh this movie has subtitles? *finger inches closer to the boring button on my homer simpson soundboard*

Sally
Jan 9, 2007


Don't post Small Dash!

WampaLord posted:

Cut the entire second half of Full Metal Jacket, expand on the first half and just make the whole movie about the awful process of dehumanization that military training puts you through.

:eyepop:

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Larry Parrish posted:

Are you serious

I'm serious in that I think the first half of the movie is much much better than the second half

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

E: Doubleposting in the dead subforum is bad, makes people think there's more activity than there is.

Sally
Jan 9, 2007


Don't post Small Dash!
Hotter take: remove the entire first half of the film and expand the second into a full fledged action film

Sally
Jan 9, 2007


Don't post Small Dash!
it's been forever but i do think the second part had some really worthwhile scenes. the whole thing with the sniper and adam baldwin was p good. it's been forever since i've seen the film and i dont remember the second half as weel so i am having diffculty contextualizing it from memory alone. might have to watch the movie again soon

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

WampaLord posted:

I'm serious in that I think the first half of the movie is much much better than the second half

You have aids my man

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
The second half is really the second 2/3rds which is why you have trouble remembering it specifically. But every scene it has is great, from the mass grave after the Tet Offensive to the door gunner, the director filming the advance like it's a Hollywood movie, etc etc

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Larry Parrish posted:

The second half is really the second 2/3rds which is why you have trouble remembering it specifically. But every scene it has is great, from the mass grave after the Tet Offensive to the door gunner, the director filming the advance like it's a Hollywood movie, etc etc

It just blends into every other war movie I've ever seen, while I can distinctly remember everything about the training part.

GORDON
Jan 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
In making sure my 12-yo son understands pop culture references of the movie that still exist to this day, recently he and I sat down to watch 2001: A Space Odyssey.

At the end he said, "Wow, that was a really good 1 hour, 20 minute movie."

discount cathouse
Mar 25, 2009

Blind Sally posted:

Hotter take: remove the entire first half of the film and expand the second into a full fledged action film

this but about andrei rubilev

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Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

WampaLord posted:

It just blends into every other war movie I've ever seen, while I can distinctly remember everything about the training part.

Like every Kubrick movie is suffers from lesser directors aping it constantly. It did also have similar shots to Apocalyse Now, which is also constantly referenced. But of course Apocalypse Now is played for horror and FMJ is more of a gallows humor thing except for a few spots

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