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^I think it's just a pure short-term self-preservation move out of fear, sadly. Trying to do anything to avoid being taken out next, like not moving at all so the t-rex doesn't eat you. It's also sort of like how when Michael approached Angela about how she was being left out of things, she just immediately went around telling all the people with power what he said. Like, that raised her stock a little bit... maybe? Idk, everyone is so eager to please the folks on top. in a way I feel like Dom and Wendell should've kept Michael around a bit longer, like the way Tony kept Spencer around, because the target on their backs is so obvious!!! But the way things are looking, nobody is going to do anything about them anyway, so they're fine. STAC Goat posted:Laurel and Donathan probably have to be the ones to make the move but as much as I think it "has to be" this week I don't think this week works. If they do it now it means giving up their silent majority to become the minority with Kellyn, Angela, Chelsea, and Sebastian. That's a bad move. Laurel doesn't seem to want to do it anyway and after the last couple of weeks I can't see her turning on Dom and Wendell now. Donathan might, but the math doesn't make sense with Michael and Jenna gone. I assume that's why Donathan was debating using his idol on Jenna. If they turn now we might be looking at one of the worst ever F4s of Kellyn, Chelsea, Sebastian, and Angela. quote:*Desi also revealed in her eviction interview that she had no intention to get Chelsea in on the vote to evict Kellyn. So that makes that move dumber. I like Desi and respect the instinct but she is not a good player. Fast Luck fucked around with this message at 15:49 on May 3, 2018 |
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May 3, 2018 16:53
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STAC Goat posted:If they had pulled a vote split or something then an errant vote could have done her in. Its pretty standard in that situation to just vote for the other option and hope for the best. Donathan randomly telling her he was going to use the idol on her theoretically changes things but how do you adjust from there?
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May 3, 2018 20:35
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Under what circumstances would there be 2 on Donathan, 1 on Jenna, Donathan knifes Jenna to make it 2-2, and then the people who put 2 on Donathan decide to vote out Jenna in the tiebreak? Just seems like something that would not actually happen, as opposed to "they vote Jenna and Donathan plays his idol for her correctly"
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May 3, 2018 21:07
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STAC Goat posted:Yeah, no, it would be weird and screwy. My point is Jenna doesn't have any trust with Donathan and his plan came out of nowhere so I get that the natural instinct is to just vote against the other option and hope for the best. Because otherwise we're just criticizing Jenna for not trusting Donathan when he was lying to her. Just listened to her exit interview, and apparently she felt very secure she wasn't being voted for, because Sebastian told her she'd be safe, and she just thought, okay, they won't vote me out, and I'll get Donathan's idol played for me, so that he can't save himself (why does she care if he saves himself...because he's targeting Sebastian?). She admits maybe Donathan could tell she wasn't onboard and that's why he didn't end up playing it for her. At one point she tells Rob that when Donathan offered to play his idol on her and vote Sebastian, she objected because Sebastian wasn't a threat, and she wanted to target Chelsea for winning two immunities (which... made her immune that TC, right??). So anyway, she was wrong like 3 different times but in every case I guess it wasn't out of obsequiousness but because she was blinded by love for Sebastian heh. Fast Luck fucked around with this message at 21:54 on May 3, 2018 |
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May 3, 2018 21:46
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Haha apparently Jenna told the Naviti that Donathan had the idol, surprise, they avoided voting Donathan.
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May 3, 2018 23:27
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She said it with Rob. I think about 3/4 through
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May 4, 2018 01:17
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Lone Goat posted:Didn't someone say that they got the least amount of rice ever this season? Maybe don't loving starve the 100lb girl to death if you want her to be interesting. Jenna posted:We went three or four full days without actually eating anything, once we ran out of rice. For me, it wasn't that big of a struggle. But toward the end, they didn't show this: we negotiated to take down our bed and shelter for 20 pounds of rice, or something like that. It was insane, and Jeff Probst agreed to it. Toward the end, if you'll notice, Michael is spooning himself "pity rice," he called it. We were eating so much rice at the end.
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May 4, 2018 12:27
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STAC Goat posted:I think the Kellyn, Angela, and Chelsea thing is heavily suspect. They left Angela out of the Chris vote, Chelsea openly said she didn't feel with Kellyn way back when she was working with Bradley, and the only real indication we've had of them scheming together is that one well scene where they considered flipping to vote out Libby and then ended up voting different ways from each other. And of course Desi ended up turning on Kellyn and not trusting Chelsea or Angela enough bring them in on it. Which could mean they're with Kellyn or just that Desi thought they were. i maintain donathan and laurel's best move is the one i said before: quote:get votes put on Dom and Wendell next vote but tip them to play their idols, which gets those flushed and Kellyn or somebody voted out. Now if you're with Dom and Wendell you have a 4-3 edge, you take out another no-edit Naviti for the 4-2 lead and then flip sides and win.
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May 7, 2018 15:42
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It's a pretty pathetic decision if true but I guess in terms of gameplay letting people vote out Russell might be a less disruptive twist than 15 idols
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May 9, 2018 13:30
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EW.com apparently did some dumb poll where fans could vote for TC winners. The fans didn't overturn many but did choose: Colby over Tina (?!) Boston Rob over Amber Stephenie LaGrossa over Dani (this was a 6-1 romp, gently caress off fans) Russell over Natalie Parv over Sandra Chrissy over Ben Sophie still beats Coach and Mich Fitz still beats Aubry (barely) so the fans were pretty restrained overall I guess. SLICK GOKU BABY posted:And Locky too... Jeff would bust a nut to Locky...
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May 9, 2018 20:12
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SweetJahasus posted:anyone should have won over Ben SweetJahasus posted:he found infinity immunity idols
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May 9, 2018 21:37
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production putting idols where he could find them is a possibility, but you don't have to believe it was "rigged" to believe having to idol yourself to safety three separate times shows certain game weaknesses too. And then the exclamation point is that even after all those idols, he STILL was going home at F4 until the fire twist bailed him out. and again, you don't have to think that was Survivor rigging it in order to think these factors make him possibly the weakest player from a social survival aspect to ever make a F3.
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May 9, 2018 21:45
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SweetJahasus posted:Also, he had to do because he was a threat that everyone knew would win if he got to the end. That's the definition of a good game. He was good enough that if he got there he was a defacto winner and just because everyone else couldn't compete with that he became a target who had to utilize tools present in the game to ensure his safety.
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May 10, 2018 00:02
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There's no chance Dom and Wendell vote against Laurel but she's still gonna back out and I'll be mad. I'd be pleased if they actually get votes on Wendell, even if he plays the idol
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May 10, 2018 01:39
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TASTE THE PAIN!! posted:Okay I was gonna defend Laurel before that vote but how did she not just take the shot Sebastian seemingly being a non-entity that's with Dom and Wendell no matter what, plus the idols, means time is really really winding down to make a move. Still time though I guess!
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Iirc Dom showed them his premerge. Also if you go to the F4 with both Wendell and Dom, one of them makes ftc, and you lose lose lose. They NEED to flip next vote. Dom and Wendell aren't a pair like the other pairs because they have Seb, two idols, and a massive FTC edge on everyone else. Oh and they're the two biggest immunity threats. Next vote is the last possible chance for there to be numbers against them but that means they know they need to bring idols out if anything smells slightly fishy and even a 4-3 edge requires Laurel to actually make a move.
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Desiree wanted to take out Kellyn first so she could capture Angela and Chelsea as numbers, not necessarily because Kellyn was the "biggest threat."ApplesandOranges posted:EDIT: Chelsea's exit press is up. Nothing super interesting, though this stood out: That's the theme of this season: Everyone knows Dom/Wendell will win if they make it to the end, and Laurel blows up anyone who tries to stop them from making it to the end. But Donathan could have forced a tie this week. Kellyn could have voted out Wendell last week in the split TC. People could have joined up with Desiree's plot even after it got exposed, instead of dunking her for plotting. The blame goes around, which is why I say it's a little unfair to hold Laurel alone accountable, although obviously she's the biggest enabler. STAC Goat posted:That being said I think it makes sense for Laurel to look at Kellyn, Angela, and Chelsea and say "I'm not getting to F3, or maybe even F4 or F5 with them", especially after the last two weeks of Kellyn stuff. And like... Chelsea probably wasn't her biggest worry there. Poor Laurel, if things do go down this way, not only will the jury destroy her, I think she'll be one of the most unpopular players ever among fans for making it happen, in a way Woo isn't. Fast Luck fucked around with this message at 19:40 on May 11, 2018 |
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Chelsea did other exit interviews though. Allegedly CBS just wouldn't reschedule Rob's for her. Rob's podcast with Snowy was annoying me though. I think he might be biased because Laurel has been a patron for some time. But the whole discussion about what if Laurel tied the vote, and then stood up and asked Donathan to join her... hello, Donathan wanted to take the shot all along, and he was the one trying to swing Laurel, not the other way around. Like, what show is he watching? The question should have been the reverse, what if Donathan forced the tie, but he always treats Laurel like a player in the game to be considered and Donathan as a wishy washy goat. They repeatedly discussed Donathan making a mistake in the vote without ever confronting the fact that he wanted to vote Wendell but couldn't get Laurel with him. I think Rob may be categorizing Chelsea as delusional partially because she perceived Laurel as a goat and said so in her exit press. Chelsea isn't a special player or anything, but she seems level-headed enough to me. Maybe like everyone else, she's the hero of her own story, but that's only natural.
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Bryce: laurel is really just content to just take that third place finish you know what im saying? Rob: I dont know because i really feel like if she could talk to us right now she'd be able to explain, no i had to do that because- *i pop in my They Live earbuds* Rob: I know Laurel is a paid subscriber and listening right now so I'm sticking up for her here. * i sigh and pick up my machine gun* Fast Luck fucked around with this message at 23:50 on May 12, 2018 |
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Mike White is one of Probst's best friends. His crestfallen look when Jeff told him Redemption Island was coming back inspired Jeff to scrap the RI mechanic before SJDS filmed. They'd already built out the island and everything but Mike just looked so dang bummed that they converted it last minute to an exile island. He's part of the crew that watches Survivor with Probst, Sia, and Cochran. In other news some people from next season posted photos together on social media with the caption "gently caress it" after being told point blank they couldn't do that. CBS may actually for the first time go after people for breaking the non-disclosure policy!! Fast Luck fucked around with this message at 21:44 on May 15, 2018 |
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May 15, 2018 21:41
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Spool challenge was cool Dom and Wendell winning it helps them control conversations though. Bringing Laurel is big
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Lone Goat posted:Tuned in late, what happened before this challenge. DONATHAN: 7 left, we need to move now LAUREL: I agree. It's our last chance, we need to. On the other hand...
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Donathan rules but that was too direct lol Imagine if Laurel finally flips but Seb ties it 4-4 with the extra vote
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May 17, 2018 01:23
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IcePhoenix posted:That was weird
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May 17, 2018 01:37
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STAC Goat posted:Yeah, he just spaced out and screwed up and then was mad, lashed out, and then realized he was mad at himself. Anyway really feeling like a Donathan boot/self-destruct ep
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May 17, 2018 01:42
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Wtf they're planning a vote split on Kellyn/Donathan? Do they have that much power STILL
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May 17, 2018 01:54
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This season is such a steamroll.
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May 17, 2018 01:56
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Sebastian wasn't needed to go 4-3 on someone. Yeah though I don't know if Donathan prevented Laurel from flipping with his freak out or if he was going stir crazy because Laurel was never going to flip and he was tired of those 2 guys being in total control. You could definitely tell some of that was kind of a backlash against those guys.
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I just remembered Donathan's paranoid theory that they were going to idol Kellyn. Haha
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One drawback is that it's hard to really have a rooting interest between Dom and Wendell, because they've been side by side the whole game and neither is giving us brilliant confessionals or anything. They'd both be good winners, I just don't have a strong preference between them. And while they would be good winners, I'd really like to see them get challenged at least. I know they're not just laying back doing nothing, but they allied Donathan and Laurel almost right after the swap, and they've just been with Naviti and those two ever since with no changes. And they've had idols the whole time to boot. Another weakness here is the editing though. Sebastian and Angela are complete nobodies entering the finale, when you'd think they could have at least been interesting from a character standpoint. That combined with the invisibility of Chelsea and Desiree have made this feel like a foregone conclusion and kind of a slog since Chris went home. Fast Luck fucked around with this message at 13:13 on May 17, 2018 |
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Dugong posted:The double cursed vote steal! I think between Wendell and Domenick, Dom would win, because I just feel like he's more been the spokesperson of the duo, but I don't know how much people could potentially value Wendell's social game and camp contributions. I feel like the bad f4 twist makes players play less, but it also means if Dom or Wendell want to be sure of eliminating the other, they need to do it at 5, and then they can't be voted out at 4 for being the biggest threat remaining. So something exciting could happen at 5 and firemaking at 4. Even 6 has the one in a million chance Seb wakes up and uses his advantage to 4-3 Laurel, Dom, and Wendell.
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Apparently people are saying Survivor: SA is really really good so far. i haven't watched it, but kinda cool that between South Africa and Australia there's multiple english language Survivor series out there in case the American one veers too far off course.
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Quality post right there my man. s2 of the Australian reboot was without reservation much better than anything Survivor US has put out in several years. It appears the American version has made a deliberate choice to pivot away from straightforward social survival, with Cirie being 0-voted out and Jeff saying that was good, Ben immunizing himself through every late game vote, and Ghost Island having a mechanic specifically designed to keep the goods flowing, all in the last three seasons. It's still early in its evolution but I'm feeling f4 firemaking makes the game worse. Australian Survivor has a lot more time to spend on character development, but with the right players still gets a ton of fun game moves. The potential casting spoiler for s3 isn't great, and I'm not ready to say it's definitively the better product at this point, but it could be. You shouldn't act like it's heresy to notice the direction the US game is taking. Fast Luck fucked around with this message at 15:35 on May 21, 2018 |
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May 21, 2018 15:09
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Who's ready for some KEVIN HART??!?!
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Anyway I agree with Applesandoranges and alfpogs, they make some good points in that these other characters have to have something fun to show about them that can prevent the season from being so narrowly focused on just a few players. And it doesn't have to be survival/camp life stuff, since that stuff gets repetitive unless something unusual happens, it can just be showing their personality through some different moments. that said, while I'm down on this season because it's been such a steamroll, and since the editors tipped their hands very early on as to what our destination would be, hey, we finally get to arrive at that destination! So I'm pretty up for this. Domenick will be a good winner, or Wendell would be if it's not Dom, and if it's anyone else, it'll be a hugely surprising outcome, so it's all good Fast Luck fucked around with this message at 17:47 on May 23, 2018 |
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I agree with that as well, but a quick nod to Sarah who utterly dominated Game Changers with unsettlling levels of emotional manipulation moreso than with gamebot strategy or advantages (though that's not to absolve Cirie getting screwed out of the game by mass numbers of advantages colliding inc. Sarah's legacy adv).
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Someone at some point said Dom was running circles around everyone and I was like well that's overstating it but after that Sebastian vote I believe it.
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:There are 4 people. Read the note in public. This is dumb.
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