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Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
every time I see this thread title I think of the pickle surprise ladies chanting "hammmmmmm"

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SmokaDustbowl
Feb 12, 2001

by vyelkin
Fun Shoe

Silver Alicorn posted:

every time I see this thread title I think of the pickle surprise ladies chanting "hammmmmmm"

holy poo poo I'm not the only one

SO DEMANDING
Dec 27, 2003

that makes three of us, lmao

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?
so someone tell me about the current state of packet radio

is it still using X.25 or what

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb
You don't need a license to use discord.

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮

Salt Fish posted:

You don't need a license to use discord.

boo this man

e: I don't need a license to kick your rear end either

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

eschaton posted:

so someone tell me about the current state of packet radio

is it still using X.25 or what

you can still get 44.x block IPs if you put up a node

2m packet is dead though, they use the modulation for APRS but theres barely anything on 145.01 or whatever. winlink email systems and the sleepy rear end store and forward network sending NTS traffic (which is 90% automated congrats-on-your-license-upgrade ARRL spam)


a lot of the people that were into packet are doing the 2.4g mesh thing now and it is much more interesting

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
jonny does anyone you do ham stuff with use airfiber? it seems absurd for how (relatively) cheap it is.

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
the airfiber stuff is loving sick but we haven't figured out a firmware flash to get it operating in ham bands

since the local mesh got their nonprofit status we are investigating raising funds for a 24g airfiber link from a mountaintop to a denver hilltop tho, we dont even need to juice the power

(part of the ham mesh thing is that we hack firmware to put things on 2.4 ghz channel "-2" which is solidly in the ham band, allowing us to use up to 1,500 watts power _plus_ antenna gain, instead of roughly 1 watt including antenna gain - but we have to not use encryption or send porn or whatever)

30 TO 50 FERAL HOG
Mar 2, 2005



Jonny 290 posted:

get your tech license and i absolutely will write it off for you

you dont have to pass the code test any more and a ham radio literally starts at eighteen dollars. accounting for inflation, playing with RF hobbies has never been cheaper. I can order obscure RF transistors from shenzhen for 10 cents each and they are here in 7 days. not only that but the growth in online documentation and forums means that older gear is more repairable today at 50 years of age than the same thing was 20 years ago

also boomers are starting to die off quickly so there's a huge opening for more socially conscious younger operators to basically storm the barn and take over

CONTENT



here is one of my antenna masts that i redid yesterday

the newest resident is that 600 mW Bullet M2 HP hooked to a 14db patch antenna. its running AREDN firmware and has a roughly 1 megabit link to the Denver area ham mesh, specifically a tower that is 7 miles away

uh okay this is cool and i just bought a house with a workshop where i could put this stuff so how do i do this

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
a good way to get into it for SUPER CHEAP is to go pick up one of the RTL SDR sticks on amazon

https://www.amazon.com/NooElec-NESDR-SMArt-Bundle-R820T2-Based/dp/B01GDN1T4S/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1520359368&sr=8-3

this will let you listen to local cops and hams, FM broadcast, etc. short-medium range stuff. also it will cover shortwave but that tiny antenna wouldnt do much.

you cant get into any unauthorized transmit trouble as it's just a receiver, there are good software apps for everything from windows to Walgreen's android tablets to run these things, and they have gone way up in quality lately

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






2 hams cost :20bux: fyi

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Is this the new ham thread?

hopefully in a week or so my LimeSDR mini will FINALLY ship, pretty excited about that.

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

spankmeister posted:

2 hams cost :20bux: fyi

is it good ham though?

trick question! no ham is good.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






ham is absolutely haraam

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

spankmeister posted:

2 hams cost :20bux: fyi

horse_ebookmarklet
Oct 6, 2003

can I play too?
I got a tech license and a ft-60r and I don't really know why anymore.

On 2M there are a dozen repeaters I can access. One is active during drive time and net time, thats it (that repeater network covers ~4 million people). The rest are dead.

The mesh stuff sounds cool (digital w/ RTL-SDR is why I got into it) but the two other AREDN nodes (listed on the site) are out of line of sight.

Most of the packet stuff going on seems like ancient ax.25 or APRS.


Eh. I should probably go to the big club in the area.

DJ Commie
Feb 29, 2004

Stupid drivers always breaking car, Gronk fix car...

Jonny 290 posted:

the airfiber stuff is loving sick but we haven't figured out a firmware flash to get it operating in ham bands

they aren't related in any way at all to other ubiquiti hardware or software, a totally different engineering and dev team, good luck since they're only using signed firmware and aren't using any open sores so no gpl


airmax ac stuff is also all signed, as well as anything for airmax m above 5.6.15 so you're stuck with m stuff probably. does it even use tdma or is it just 802.11 with acknowledgements disabled?

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
Honestly i don't have that deep of a knowledge of wireless as I used to. I just kinda flashed up the firmware and started aiming my antenna.

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?
Jonny the SDR arrived from Amazon what next

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
what OS do you prefer to use

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

Jonny 290 posted:

what OS do you prefer to use

i smell a trap

Jimmy Carter
Nov 3, 2005

THIS MOTHERDUCKER
FLIES IN STYLE
a couple of my friends are taking the test so we can get newly-cheap DMR handhelds and not have to worry about cell reception at music festivals

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Jonny 290 posted:

what OS do you prefer to use

macOS




I’m hosed aren’t I

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






For ham software windows 95 is recommended, or windows XP if you need the more modern stuff.

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
buy a pentium 3 pc for your hams

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

Silver Alicorn posted:

buy a pentium 3 pc for your hams

cool. is that all you really need? that’d be cheap as gently caress. (dunno how much all of the other gear would cost tho)

SmokaDustbowl
Feb 12, 2001

by vyelkin
Fun Shoe
there's so much loving RF in my building my headphones are picking it up

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
no trap

eschaton posted:

macOS




I’m hosed aren’t I

http://gqrx.dk/download


Jimmy Carter posted:

a couple of my friends are taking the test so we can get newly-cheap DMR handhelds and not have to worry about cell reception at music festivals

couple of DV4mini usb sticks and you can have walkie talkies that work worldwide. if youre gonna get dmr radios you might as well get hotspots


President Beep posted:

cool. is that all you really need? that’d be cheap as gently caress. (dunno how much all of the other gear would cost tho)

to a certain extent. those SDR sticks are going to require at least like a core2duo to play nicely. you can do a lot of digital data mode stuff (keyboard chat) with a p3 and win98. and if you just want to do poo poo like rig control or serial packet radio stuff, a 286 is fine.

4lokos basilisk
Jul 17, 2008


is there a special name for a small village that is home to a lot of radio enthusiasts?

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

awesome, thanks!

also I guess I could set this stuff up on one of my Raspberries Pi

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Penisface posted:

is there a special name for a small village that is home to a lot of radio enthusiasts?

hebephrenia

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

Penisface posted:

is there a special name for a small village that is home to a lot of radio enthusiasts?

point barrow, alaska

4lokos basilisk
Jul 17, 2008



President Beep posted:

point barrow, alaska

no, no, no sorry I was just trying to make a hamlet pun

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)
ah, poo poo.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Penisface posted:

no, no, no sorry I was just trying to make a hamlet pun

I got it if it makes you feel better.

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮

President Beep posted:

cool. is that all you really need? that’d be cheap as gently caress. (dunno how much all of the other gear would cost tho)

well you’re gonna have trouble running Windows 95 on anything much newer

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

eschaton posted:

awesome, thanks!

also I guess I could set this stuff up on one of my Raspberries Pi

http://sdr.hu/openwebrx

plug an sdr stick into a pi 2 or better, install this, and open a port. boom you now have a tunable web based SDR in any browser you want anywhere.

Jimmy Carter
Nov 3, 2005

THIS MOTHERDUCKER
FLIES IN STYLE
my buddy is gonna hang out with me this weekend to see if the magnetic loop antenna he picked up can null out the cell tower antennas about 20 feet from my apartment and I'm hyped at the possibility of actually doing HF from home

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President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)
i really don’t know much about this sort of thing, but couldn’t you get in pretty deep poo poo for messing with communications transmission like that?

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