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iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Edward Mass posted:

Really, the question we should be asking is what sports should be done strictly by amateurs.

I'm fine with high school and lower, but the major junior hockey leagues, which are open to players 16 (15 if you're drat good) and older and where something like 70% of the NHL players come from (exact number not certain), do actually pay their players. If you play in them you're no longer NCAA eligible because of that (but if you fail to make the NHL you get a nice scholarship for a Canadian school).

My take is this: football, baseball/softball, hockey, and basketball (both mens and womens) should get 1k a month, plus whatever money they get via scholarships. Basically the Big 4 sports in the US qualify for this. For the football players that aren't on a full scholarship, it'll help them make up the difference. This would also open up the NCAA to major junior hockey players who didn't make the NHL but want to continue on. You could also argue that the bat and ball sports and hockey could receive a bit less as they aren't as popular as basketball and football.

Also this:

Kibner posted:

Let them profit off their own name and likeness while in school. That's the least that could be done.

Making a kicker ineligible because of a youtube channel? Come the gently caress on.

iospace fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Feb 25, 2018

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iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Mahoning posted:

I would mostly agree, but would that violate Title IX?

I’m honestly asking because I have no clue. If it would be a Title IX violation then that’s a much larger battle than simply deciding to pay the players.

I think Title IX would get involved if a college has one more paid sport for men than women, which in my example they would (football would not have a women's equivalent).

So pay the woman's soccer team? :shrug:

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Again, I bring up the NHL's system. It's been well established, and the players can be drafted before they finish their junior career, whether that is in the junior leagues or college. If drafted, the player can either go to the NHL and try to make it there, or continue playing at their current level (it also works because a lot of hockey players are Canadian, so they don't have to deal with the NCAA).

If a basketball or football version of that came up, it'd be interesting to see, but the NCAA has so much inertia at this point that it'd be hard to do barring an anti-trust suit. Basketball does have the advantage of overseas leagues though as pressure, and maybe more players would follow the Balls over.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Mahoning posted:

Not really, since when demand drops, the price doesn't drop with it. Attendance at sporting events across the board is going down, ticket prices aren't. The fact is that owners no longer care if they price fans out of attending their games since the majority of their revenue comes from TV contracts and not attendance at the games.

At least at the top level. Minor leagues are cheap.

My family spent around 125 dollars to go see a Badger Hockey game (24/ticket plus fees), with seats right in the corner next to the student section. By comparison, roughly similar seats for the Bucks would run 66+ bucks a ticket. Similar seats for the Admirals, the Nashville Predator's AHL affiliate, run 18 dollars/seat.

Dunno how much Bucks tickets will cost with the new arena (likely similar).

To conclude the tangent, the thing is, CFB and CMBB know they'll sell the place out, no matter what. Pro sports don't have that luxury in most cases (exceptions being teams with deeply entrenched fanbases, such as the Packers or Maple Leafs) but for some odd reason are failing to see the impending burst of the bubble.

iospace fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Feb 27, 2018

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


gtkor posted:

Let them make money off their image rights. Schools start streaming non-rev sports on a cord cutting package for like 10 bucks a month targeting all the alumni.

So the Olympic model for most athletes outside of the team sports?

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