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May 4, 2018 03:27
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Gaunab posted:Ugh, high school. Oh, this got dark.  The closest we ever got at my schools to news like that was 9/11 in 8th grade when most of the teachers said "I really don't want to do anything today".
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May 4, 2018 03:29
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That episode brought back a lot of memories. The scene with Earn's new shirt getting him attention right away hit me hard. Had something exactly like that happen to me.
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May 4, 2018 03:48
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Atlanta managed to make their school flashback episode even more depressing than when Louie did their school flashback episode
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May 4, 2018 04:28
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Goddamn Al has been bailing Earn out his whole life. Guess he couldn't hack it at Princeton without his cousin
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May 4, 2018 04:58
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I was not expecting that. God drat. Did they do something funky with the audio or does that kid just do a really good Donald Glover voice?
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May 4, 2018 06:36
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Pussy Quipped posted:That shot of Ern and Paperboi sitting on a couch smoking weed, staring down rows of naked frat pledges, while Laffy Taffy plays with the confederate flag as a backdrop is pure gold holy poo poo. Don't forget the screams of off screen pledges constantly heard throughout the scene too.
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May 4, 2018 20:22
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I thought that was a very weird season finale but apparently this is an 11-episode season
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May 5, 2018 00:19
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I'm struggling to relate to kids caring so much if a shirt is fake that they kill themselves.
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May 5, 2018 00:45
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drunken officeparty posted:I'm struggling to relate to kids caring so much if a shirt is fake that they kill themselves. That was just the tipping point. The kid's family was breaking apart. I was a little older than that kid when my parents divorced so I can understand feeling absolutely lovely about the smallest thing. Getting bullied just added onto the shitpile he was already dealing with.
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May 5, 2018 00:58
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I thought they were telegraphing it pretty hard honestly. I hope something good happens for someone this season, drat.
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May 5, 2018 01:14
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cochise posted:That was just the tipping point. The kid's family was breaking apart. I was a little older than that kid when my parents divorced so I can understand feeling absolutely lovely about the smallest thing. Getting bullied just added onto the shitpile he was already dealing with. I get the bullying leading to suicide, that's a real thing anyone who went to school in the last 20 years could you that. I guess I'm saying the kids caring about a shirt at all like that is so out of my wheelhouse.
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May 5, 2018 01:18
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drunken officeparty posted:I get the bullying leading to suicide, that's a real thing anyone who went to school in the last 20 years could you that. I guess I'm saying the kids caring about a shirt at all like that is so out of my wheelhouse. Were you homeschooled? Kids create pecking orders out of the most arbitrary poo poo imaginable
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May 5, 2018 02:13
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Kawasaki Nun posted:Were you homeschooled? Kids create pecking orders out of the most arbitrary poo poo imaginable Maybe, but a 8/9th grader's possible knock-off being such big news on campus that 12th graders get involved seems like a stretch.
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May 5, 2018 02:19
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General Dog posted:Maybe, but a 8/9th grader's possible knock-off being such big news on campus that 12th graders get involved seems like a stretch. So I could be off base here and would really like input from others, but based off of my impressions watching the episode and comments I've read online from other people, I think it's just hard for white people to relate to this (*disclaimer* I am white). Like, everyone knows how important it is to have the right brands in middlle school/high school, but I think it has a much different significance culturally to black people than it does to white people. The review over at Vulture talks about this, pointing out that Earn's one interaction with his white friend illustrates this. This is the end of the world to Earn (and a huge deal to most of the other kids) but his white friend doesn't really get it, remarking that he's worn the same shirt twice that week. In a larger sense, this whole season has been about seeing how and why people try to stunt on each other, how money and status drive people. This episode takes it back to the birth of those desires.
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May 5, 2018 03:28
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As a former student of a lovely public high school in the hood and also in the dirty south, the only unbelievable part is that the 12th graders would have found out and/or cared. The student body at this school seemed much smaller than at mine, though.
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May 5, 2018 03:49
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CBJSprague24 posted:Little Earn sounds like Adult Earn. That kid is a spectacular actor, he nailed Earn's whole demeanor.
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May 5, 2018 05:50
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Born_to_Lose posted:So I could be off base here and would really like input from others, but based off of my impressions watching the episode and comments I've read online from other people, I think it's just hard for white people to relate to this (*disclaimer* I am white). Like, everyone knows how important it is to have the right brands in middlle school/high school, but I think it has a much different significance culturally to black people than it does to white people. The review over at Vulture talks about this, pointing out that Earn's one interaction with his white friend illustrates this. This is the end of the world to Earn (and a huge deal to most of the other kids) but his white friend doesn't really get it, remarking that he's worn the same shirt twice that week. In a larger sense, this whole season has been about seeing how and why people try to stunt on each other, how money and status drive people. This episode takes it back to the birth of those desires. You're not off base. The white friend of Earn's says he doesn't get it at all. I'm white but I went to a public high school in New Orleans and all this seemed very familiar.
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May 5, 2018 06:06
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Black people rag on people at everything it's in the culture. I can make fun of my black coworkers all day but I tip toe around white people. Growing up you see the adults gently caress around with one another and even at the kids, and you kinda have to learn how so yeah making fun of the little niggas clothes is like 100% normal, and overdoing it is a common high school experience. Can't really speak to seniors picking on freshman that feels like the 80s
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May 5, 2018 06:59
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Did they say anything about when it was supposed to be set? Based on Donald Glover's age it would have been 1997, but if Ern dropped out of undergrad 3 years before season 1, he could be a lot younger than Donald? It really didn't feel like 1997, but I don't think you saw those earrings much into the 2000s.
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May 5, 2018 07:19
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i like nice words
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I'm white, while I understood the shirt drama now, I would have been exactly like the white kid in the episode who didn't. Every now and then I get flashes of The Boondocks with this show, and the kid picking on Ern could have actually been Riley Freeman. I was surprised by the suicide because I thought the kid was going to get his rear end kicked, not just teased/ostracized. Veskit posted:Black people rag on people at everything it's in the culture. I can make fun of my black coworkers all day but I tip toe around white people. Growing up you see the adults gently caress around with one another and even at the kids, and you kinda have to learn how so yeah making fun of the little niggas clothes is like 100% normal, and overdoing it is a common high school experience. Can't really speak to seniors picking on freshman that feels like the 80s Regarding giving people poo poo, I think that's just a thing some people do and some don't. I don't think it's a white/black thing. Take the Sopranos for instance, those guys bust each others balls all the time. Ern's mom and Aunt had it right that you gotta stand up for yourself to a degree. You don't typically want to turn it back on a guy like the bully because those types are almost always the ones that give it but can't take it in return; but either rolling with the punch or deflecting is a skill you gotta have in those situations. When I worked at Target in North Carolina there was a group of us, white and black, that would rag on each other all the time.
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May 5, 2018 09:49
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Ern (or Al can’t remember) has an Aquemini poster on his wall which wasn’t released until late 1998, and Fubu jerseys were a thing when I was in 10th-11th grade so somewhere in that 98 to 2000 window.
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May 5, 2018 13:21
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I think they're about ten years early on someone saying "roasted", too.
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May 5, 2018 17:02
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Definitely woulda been “crack on” or “diss”
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May 5, 2018 17:04
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At one point the teacher was like "take these packets home and fill them out, and remember the internet is not a source." The possibility of the internet being a good source wasn't even a thing in 1998ish and there's no way most of those kids had the internet at home anyway. SHEESH
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May 5, 2018 17:08
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Anne Whateley posted:At one point the teacher was like "take these packets home and fill them out, and remember the internet is not a source." The possibility of the internet being a good source wasn't even a thing in 1998ish and there's no way most of those kids had the internet at home anyway. SHEESH Dialup started getting big in 1993/1994 and cable internet was definitely around and pretty common in the late 90's. Wikipedia and Google weren't around yet but there were other search engines so a source would likely have been some dumbass' fan page or a history buff's pet project or a university project. His school likely had Internet, though it would've been in the computer lab or a library computer.
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May 5, 2018 18:38
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His school would've had internet but she said to take the packets home and do them. Internet at home existed in like 1998, but it was far from universal, and especially in a poor area? My parents had dialup until like 2006, which was unusual, but not weird. I don't think it would've occurred to kids to use Yahoo directories to find some random guy's weblog as a source in like 1998, I don't think we got "the internet is not a source" lectures until like 2002ish. e: Ern would 100% have been looking up dragon ball z fansites in the library though Anne Whateley fucked around with this message at 19:39 on May 5, 2018 |
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May 5, 2018 19:35
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Anne Whateley posted:His school would've had internet but she said to take the packets home and do them. Internet at home existed in like 1998, but it was far from universal, and especially in a poor area? My parents had dialup until like 2006, which was unusual, but not weird. I don't think it would've occurred to kids to use Yahoo directories to find some random guy's weblog as a source in like 1998, I don't think we got "the internet is not a source" lectures until like 2002ish. I graduated in 2001 and we had tons of Internet as source problems, the late 90s wasn't the dark ages.
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May 5, 2018 20:25
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I would tend to agree with Anne but I was also a horrible student so my opinion probably isn’t worth much.
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May 5, 2018 21:31
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The teacher was 100% talking straight to Ern when she said that.
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May 5, 2018 23:34
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the obliviousness of the adults at the end is what gets to me. Like hey, you need to wear a suit, clothes matter! oh thanks, i had not before now at any point realized clothes matter
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May 6, 2018 10:28
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The school episode hit me (and my son) pretty hard. We both kind of knew something pretty bad was going to happen, but I figured it was either going to be the kid getting beat down, or Earn jumping in at the last minute because of pride and getting himself beat down (like he did with Tracy). It definitely struck a chord with both of us. In the 90s I went through similar poo poo (I'm white, but grew up in a pretty diverse area), I remember multiple times being picked on for something I wore. In a very similar way. I don't know that seniors would have gotten involved over Freshman, but I definitely had issues with some upperclassmen otherwise. I remember as a freshman wearing overalls with one side down (This was in 1990!) and it was before many people in school had caught onto the trend, and sophomores and juniors would pull on the hanging strap when I was walking, and talk poo poo about me not knowing how to dress myself. Fast forward a few months and every single kid that gave me poo poo was wearing them the same way... My son has seen similar things in school as well (he's a Junior right now). So we both definitely got it. Veskit posted:Black people rag on people at everything it's in the culture. I can make fun of my black coworkers all day but I tip toe around white people. Growing up you see the adults gently caress around with one another and even at the kids, and you kinda have to learn how so yeah making fun of the little niggas clothes is like 100% normal, and overdoing it is a common high school experience. Can't really speak to seniors picking on freshman that feels like the 80s This is so true right here. When I was really little most of my friends were white, and if someone got picked on, moms got involved immediately. But getting a little older and more of my social circle being black and hispanic, everyone ragged on each other. It's definitely part of the culture. The number of times someone would get upset and then everyone would be like "ahhhh come on, we're just snappin' on you man! Everybody does it." It's definitely a cultural thing, I mean, even look at TV Shows like Wild'n Out. That whole show is basically built around cracking on your friends. Every episode of this show is great though. It's beautiful to look at, the acting is amazing, and the sense of foreboding and dread is ever present. Anytime something is going good, I feel nervousness and anxiety welling up, because you just KNOW something is about to go wrong at any moment!
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May 7, 2018 13:07
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Totally don't get the song music wise for This is America but Murai's direction was pretty good.
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May 7, 2018 22:54
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TheBizzness posted:As a former student of a lovely public high school in the hood and also in the dirty south, the only unbelievable part is that the 12th graders would have found out and/or cared. yeah this episode brought some extreme flashbacks to houston public schools
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May 8, 2018 03:25
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Born_to_Lose posted:So I could be off base here and would really like input from others, but based off of my impressions watching the episode and comments I've read online from other people, I think it's just hard for white people to relate to this (*disclaimer* I am white). Like, everyone knows how important it is to have the right brands in middlle school/high school, but I think it has a much different significance culturally to black people than it does to white people. The review over at Vulture talks about this, pointing out that Earn's one interaction with his white friend illustrates this. This is the end of the world to Earn (and a huge deal to most of the other kids) but his white friend doesn't really get it, remarking that he's worn the same shirt twice that week. In a larger sense, this whole season has been about seeing how and why people try to stunt on each other, how money and status drive people. This episode takes it back to the birth of those desires. I went to a high school that was 60/40 white to minority when I started and 60/40 the other way by the time I left. The minority population was probably 90% black. This episode was eerily accurate. I'm white and wasn't really in that crowd in high school, but I thought this episode was 100% accurate based on my experience. I saw kids get clowned on for the dumbest poo poo.
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May 8, 2018 15:01
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I went to a mostly white high school and it was the same there. Kids are assholes and will find any reason to bully other kids.
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May 8, 2018 15:10
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Replace Fubu with Girbaud jeans and that was my school.
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May 8, 2018 15:15
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Man, between this season of Atlanta and the last two episodes of Barry and the This Is America video, Hiro Murai is white-hot right now.
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May 8, 2018 16:49
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General Dog posted:Man, between this season of Atlanta and the last two episodes of Barry and the This Is America video, Hiro Murai is white-hot right now. drat I didn't realize he did those Barry episodes. I looked it up and he also did Ep.6, Season 1 of Legion. Dude is good.
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May 8, 2018 18:06
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Did Clark throw his manager under the bus?
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May 11, 2018 03:59
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