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tooterfish posted:Consider Phlebas isn't too out there, probably the most adaptable one. It's a pretty standard adventure story at heart. I guess so. I always tell people to skip it and start at Player of Games because it is so far detached from the rest of the series. We'll see 
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TTerrible posted:I guess so. I always tell people to skip it and start at Player of Games because it is so far detached from the rest of the series. Consider Phlebas is kinda egh but it was written in a way that lends itself well to a traditional TV adaptation. It's a good jumping off point for The Culture as a whole. That being said, Player of Games is way better and I'd kill to see someone like Chiwetel Ejiofor as Jernau.
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JossiRossi posted:They were hella dead, and after the ship was dismantled into it's component parts, their bodies probably were shortly after. In the book version of that event, the bodies were not dismantled. Onlookers speculated that either the Protomolecule considered them indivisible components of the ship, or that after disassembling the population of Eros, it had nothing left to learn about human bodies. TTerrible posted:The Culture is going to translate as well to a TV series as Dark Tower did to a movie. I'm torn on this. I think you're probably right, but I want to see them try anyway. Banks did include a lot of big cinematic settings and scenes, especially in Consider Phlebas, so there's a lot to work with. On the other hand, a lot of ships and drones look like nondescript ovoids and boxes, and without the sort of asides you can have in text, it'd be easy for exposition to get clunky.
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Baloogan posted:Jules-Pierre Bezos yeah like is he not self-aware or does he just think mao is the hero
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May 22, 2018 00:52
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Since the Culture has come up: I feel like there's a pretty good chance that Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk both believe they're running the Vanguard Foundation.
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May 22, 2018 00:57
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Sure are a lot of spoilers being posted in this thread. Shame if something would happen to all those posts...
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May 22, 2018 01:05
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Episode 7 is gonna reach out to new heights
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muscles like this! posted:Sure are a lot of spoilers being posted in this thread. Shame if something would happen to all those posts... lol i've never read the books, and my "spoiler" was just me guessing...though now i know i was right, thanks to you editing it
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It's cool that people are so paranoid over spoilers that they can't even talk about things that already happened on the show.
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Rah! posted:lol i've never read the books, and my "spoiler" was just me guessing...though now i know i was right, thanks to you editing it jfc 
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The squid ship is actually one giant testicle for Galactus, who is currently under construction
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TTerrible posted:The Culture is going to translate as well to a TV series as Dark Tower did to a movie. tooterfish posted:Consider Phlebas isn't too out there, probably the most adaptable one. It's a pretty standard adventure story at heart.
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I haven't seen any clear answer to this, but is this season going to be 13 episodes like season 2 or do we just have two episodes left until the end of the season?
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It's 13. Does the news mean Amazon is also taking over the international streaming rights? Mu Zeta fucked around with this message at 01:49 on May 22, 2018 |
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Elias_Maluco posted:I know, but it does sounds like its actually pretty close now. So I guess at least there's reason to be optimistic What we do now is signal boost over all the twitters and the facebook and drop messages like "Thank you Amazon!" "You're the best faceless corporation ever!" "PoundSignAmazonSavesExpanse" to the point where it'll be just an enormous PR hit for them to back out.
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Thank you Jeff Bezos, because of your generosity we will attempt to make your death by guillotine as painless and as quick as possible
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Mu Zeta posted:It's 13. Who knows? Aside from the title of one article, we have no idea if the show is actually renewed or not.
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Probably more accurate as to where things are: https://twitter.com/AbrahamHanover/status/998724670286323714
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facialimpediment posted:Probably more accurate as to where things are: https://twitter.com/AbrahamHanover/status/998724670286323714 https://twitter.com/abrahamhanover/status/998724471933493248?s=21 Watch live or DVR by Friday, seems like! 
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May 22, 2018 02:01
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May 22, 2018 02:07
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It's all a ruse to get us to watch a dead show for some reason.
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Phi230 posted:Thank you Jeff Bezos, because of your generosity we will attempt to make your death by guillotine as painless and as quick as possible a space guillotine where the blade has to be attracted to the floor via magnets fake edit: MIIIIIIIIIIIKE
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Amazon is doing The Culture? I thought they were doing The Foundation.
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twistedmentat posted:Amazon is doing The Culture? I thought they were doing The Foundation. They have the rights anyway. I don't think production has started. Combat Pretzel posted:Best make "Excession" into a series instead. Lots of ships ranting and conspiring. I'd love to see how they do the epic space battle that lasts for less than a millisecond
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If Amazon is expressing this much interest, really it’s just negotiations at this point. Like they just have to make the deal. Good news.
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That is some amazingly stupid headline writing to put "renewed" in the headline when the lede of your drat story is "deal has not closed." Just the most awful misleading poo poo and clearly done to try to get more attention, I expect better even from the hollywood reporter. Also if that story is right and Jeff Bezos-Mao is a big fan of the Expanse then maybe we never had to sweat over it so much to begin with, it's gotta be a cakewalk for him to wave his hand and say "go get that show for me." NowonSA fucked around with this message at 04:08 on May 22, 2018 |
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twistedmentat posted:Amazon is doing The Culture? I thought they were doing The Foundation. Apple is doing The Foundation.
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MrWilderheap posted:I'd love to see how they do the epic space battle that lasts for less than a millisecond In super slow motion, presumably 
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I think what's happening is that Amazon has decided to revive The Expanse, but they are currently trying to work out the rights. Because Netflix also owns some streaming rights, Bezos can't just automatically acquire the show if he wants.
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Just buy Netflix. Problem solved.
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I'm not even sure what all there is to it. Syfy had the TV rights, Amazon has US streaming rights, Netflix has international streaming rights. Does Amazon just pay Syfy's share? When Syfy cancelled it, the show died. Does that kill the contracts? There's no doubt a whole bunch of lawyering going on to find out how to work things out. It will suck if it comes down to Netflix loving the deal.
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I wouldn’t put it past Netflix to spike the deal out of spite unless Amazon offers them an assload of cash.
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qirex posted:I wouldn’t put it past Netflix to spike the deal out of spite unless Amazon offers them an assload of cash. Netflix is dead to me if they do that. And get caught.
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theblackw0lf posted:I think what's happening is that Amazon has decided to revive The Expanse, but they are currently trying to work out the rights. Because Netflix also owns some streaming rights, Bezos can't just automatically acquire the show if he wants. I agree with you that, since we're still hearing about it, Amazon does want to produce Season 4. This is speculative, but it may be that Netflix holds the rights on Seasons 1-3 for a certain period. So the question becomes how all that gets resolved. I think something similar happened when Disney bought out Star Wars but there were still Clone Wars airing on Cartoon Network and streaming on Netflix. Not identical, per se, but as close as I can think off hand. I'd be curious to know more about Alcon's position in all this. They may end up having to decide between retaining some value from Netflix (worse, could they have a breach of contract on their hands if they had to leave Netflix?) and producing another season on Amazon, a season which could face a slashed budget and production schedule.
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Amazon throws around so much money. Their shows like Bosch and Goliath look like normal network shows but the budget is like $80 million. They can do The Expanse right.
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ZorajitZorajit posted:I agree with you that, since we're still hearing about it, Amazon does want to produce Season 4. This is speculative, but it may be that Netflix holds the rights on Seasons 1-3 for a certain period. So the question becomes how all that gets resolved. I think something similar happened when Disney bought out Star Wars but there were still Clone Wars airing on Cartoon Network and streaming on Netflix. Not identical, per se, but as close as I can think off hand. I'd be curious to know more about Alcon's position in all this. They may end up having to decide between retaining some value from Netflix (worse, could they have a breach of contract on their hands if they had to leave Netflix?) and producing another season on Amazon, a season which could face a slashed budget and production schedule. I think it could be as simple as Amazon buying out the international streaming rights from Netflix, but I think that's got to be the main issue they're trying to work out right now, since from my amateur legal viewpoint it would seem like streaming it as part of Amazon Prime would be international streaming since it has subscribers in so many countries. If not a buyout maybe they work out a deal that lets them both stream the new stuff, or that Netflix can only stream seasons 1-3, but I'm sure that Amazon's going to want to own the Expanse past and future if they do the deal. Lots of moving parts to it, and it makes me miss the days when a network could just pay for a show, own the show, and then if they cancel it you don't have to worry about the 3-5 people who all own a piece of it in our crazy modern media world.
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Do we actually know what the current (well, post-season-three) situation is re: streaming rights? Maybe those agreements contain clauses making them contingent on the broadcast situation or something like that.Mu Zeta posted:Amazon throws around so much money. Their shows like Bosch and Goliath look like normal network shows but the budget is like $80 million. They can do The Expanse right. I would love to see some kind of internal "stretch goals" budget document. Like, what do they think they can pull off with x% more money per episode?
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Phi230 posted:Netflix took down Expanse related stuff today Wow if Amazon actually pulls through with this I could stop watching it on Space and just stream like a good boy.
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