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(Sections STILL directly lifted from KatWithHand's Season 1 OP!) This thread will contain SPOILERS for Seasons 1 AND 2! If you have not finished both, do that first and stick to those threads! Putting this right up top this time, since last year it got a little stupid. /!\ Please be cool about book stuff. /!\ Keep it in its own thread. If a singular, unconnected event has occurred in the show, let's be cool about discussing how it was different in the book. Don't discuss poo poo that could possibly spoiler future events. It's not that hard. If you think it's even POSSIBLE it might ruin something coming up, shut the gently caress up with that poo poo. Thanks, beratna.  What happened in Season 1: In Season 1, the disappearance of rich-girl-turned-political-activist Julie Mao linked the lives of Ceres' detective Joe Miller (Thomas Jane), accidental ship captain James Holden (Steven Strait) and U.N. politician Chrisjen Avasarala (Shohreh Aghdashloo). Amidst political tension between Earth, Mars and the Asteroid Belt, these three individuals unravel the single greatest conspiracy of all time. What happened in Season 2: The Protomolecule has taken over Eros and threatens the safety of the entire solar system. From there, the larger conspiracy to control the protomolecule is further unraveled, as the crew of the Rocinante, UN Undersecretary Avasarala and Martian solider Bobbie Draper attempt to prevent system wide war AND stop a mysterious new creature. Season 3 Premiere: April 11th 10PM/9PM on Syfy. The Characters  James Holden S1: Former almost-XO of the now-destroyed Canterbury. Earther. Now de-facto captain of the stolen Martian frigate Tachi, re-christened Rocinante. Has an overdeveloped sense of responsibility, which may have been permanently triggered by guilt due to being the roundabout cause of the Canterbury's destruction. S2: Got very, very Ahab-ish in his quest to destroy the humanoid Protomolecule creature and eradicate all remaining samples from the solar system.  , alternatively  Josephus Miller S1: Former Star Helix(private police) officer on Ceres. Belter. A bit of a washout-waste of a cop who's working with a newly discovered strength of conscience. Became slightly obsessed with discovering the fate of Julie Mao, to the point of inadvertent career suicide, burning his goodwill with the OPA and leaving Ceres to inadvertently link up with Holden's crew. Now that he's learned the fate of Julie, he's searching for those responsible for the Eros disaster and bring them to something approximating justice. The hat may very well be gone for good. S2: Ended up riding Eros all the way into Venus after talking Julie Mao into directing it there instead of Earth with the power of  LOVE. May or may not be the first and only person to have banged a human/asteroid hybrid. No sign of him since the Venusian impact. Naomi Nagata S1: Former Canterbury engineer, particularly overqualified and brilliant at her job. Belter. Has a vaguely defined past of working with/for the OPA and doing things she regrets. Seems to be becoming the emotional anchor for the Rocinante, keeping everything grounded and mediating internal disputes. S2: Lots of tension between her deeply ingrained Belter loyalties and loyalty to Holden. Secretly stashed a sample of Protomolecule that she was tasked with destroying, and later gave it to Fred Johnson. She confessed this to Holden, and that's likely to be a Big Time Problem.  Alex Kamal S1: Former pilot of the Canterbury, now pilot of the Rocinante. Martian. Retired low-level pilot for the Martian Navy. Alex is more emotionally affected and sympathetic by the events on Eros, and seems to be a terrible drinking buddy. S2: Still piloting, still pretty awesome.  Amos Burton S1: Former mechanic on the Canterbury, now mechanic/meatbus on the Rocinante. Earther. Amos has a very... direct and simple view of the world free of pesky things like abstract morality or conscience. He looks to Naomi for guidance, she's basically his external compass for right/wrong and he defers to her almost completely. S2: Still punching things, still pretty awesome. The above characters all fly together on the Rocinante and form the core of the show.  Other characters:  Chrisjen Avasarala S1: Deputy Undersecretary of the UN, the UN runs Earth. A shrewd and adept politician with a demonstrated propensity for "winning" at high cost, Chrisjen realizes that Mars and Earth are being manipulated into war and is working her own resources to find out who is responsible and prevent it. S2: After figuring out a lot of what was going on via good detective work, accepted an invitation from Jules-Pierre Mao to meet and get some answers, while protected by Bobbie Draper. Ended up nearly murdered for her trouble in a power play by Errinwright.  Juliette Andromeda Mao S1: Dead. The misguided and idealistic daughter of a very rich and powerful Earther, Julie was briefly captured by the ship(of unknown provenance) that destroyed the Canterbury, and came in contact with the Protomolecule. She fled to Eros, where she was overcome with the infection and died. Her body was used to obtain samples of the protomolecule to infect citizens of Eros. S2: Building SOMETHING on Venus.  Fred Johnson S1: Former UN military commander who was held responsible for the murder of belters rioting on Anderson station while they were trying to surrender. Left the Earth military to run Tycho Station in the belt and is now a higher level member of the OPA. Also working on building the Nauvoo for the Mormons(?!) Was instrumental in Julie Mao's fate, as he was her OPA contact who sent her after the ship containing the protomolecule. S2: Managed to use the Earth's attempt to fire hundreds of nukes to destroy Eros as an opportunity to steal quite a few as a bargaining chip, defending them against a coup by the OPA led by Anderson Dawes.  Bobbie Draper S1: Martian armored commando. S2: Former Martian supremacist, after being attacked along with her squad by a Protomolecule monster and being the only survivor, became a valuable witness but was roundly dismissed by just about everyone, except perhaps Avasarala. Became totally disillusioned with her own government and has become basically attached to Avasarala.  Praxidike Meng S2: Survivor of the attack on Ganymede Station. Gained a bitching headscar, but lost his daughter. His daughter was a patient of a doctor related to Protomolecule research also sought by the crew of the Rocinante, so they link up to find him. I am going to avoid listing any of the new Season 3 characters until they show up. At least one of them kinda sorta might be a spoiler in a way? Maybe? But certainly several new characters from the books will be arriving this season. The Places/Factions  Earth - Earth is a comfy place to exist, comparatively. Currently inhabited by approximately 30 billion citizens, the vast majority of which depend on basic government assistance for all material needs and do not work. A job is a rare and precious commodity. Led by the UN.  Mars - Former Earth colony, now independent and with a population of approximately 9 billion. An escalation of aggression that took place before the series led to Martian independence and tensions are reduced, but ongoing. Mars is still mostly uninhabitable, but a decades long plan for terraforming the planet into an unspoiled, Earth-like habitat is underway. Mars has a very strong economic and scientific presence in the system.  The Belt/OPA - The asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter, with major settlements on Ceres and Eros. Somewhere between 50-100 million total belters, spread across many stations and asteroids. Ceres is the the largest population center in the system behind Mars with about 6 million inhabitants. The belt is mined heavily for raw materials to support ease-of-life on Earth and ongoing terraforming efforts on Mars. Living conditions are generally terrible and the belters typically feel that they are abused and taken advantage of by Earth and Mars alike. The OPA(Outer Planets Alliance) is a semi-terrorist organization that seeks Belter independence and self-governance. Due to gravitational differences, people raised in the Belt tend to be tall and very slender, and they are unable to function in stronger gravity wells, like Earth's. The low gravity requires a cocktail of drugs to ward off developmental issues when growing up. How Do They Eat or Breathe? Any Other Science Facts? - The invention of the Epstein Drive means that ships no longer take lengthy circuitous fuel-sipping routes from place to place. Now they accelerate constantly in a mostly linear fashion straight toward the objective, then flip around and burn to decelerate the rest of the way. Travel between places in the show takes a few months at worst instead of years. - Weaponry tends to be still projectile based. Torpedoes, railguns, and plain old bullets. - Stealth tech is a thing. - Gravity is simulated through acceleration/deceleration on ships and via spinning stations with people walking on the outer edge of rings with their heads toward the center. Gravity is still much lower outside of Earth, for example it's only about 0.3G on Ceres. Moving between gravitation levels can be hard on people accustomed to higher or lower gravity conditions. - Good coffee is hard to find. - The show is generally very highly praised for its adherence to science. Newton's laws are in full effect. edit: except for the protomolecule, apparently. By the end of Season 1, Julie was dead and Eros's citizens had been rounded up into shelters, dosed with the protomolecule, and then bombarded by tremendous doses of radiation to feed it and accelerate its evolution. Monitoring equipment has been set up to document the effects, and while our heroes have identified particular individuals as responsible, the master architects behind the plan and the objective are still unknown. Miller had met up/teamed up with the crew of the Rocinante to escape Eros. Miller and Holden have been hit with enough radiation to become night lights. Amos killed an old friend of Miller's who tried to get them to leave on the Rocinante before Holden and Miller arrived. Now the Rocinante is returning to Tycho station to report to Fred Johnson and enlist help in raiding the station to where the Eros perpetrators have fled. By the end of Season 2, Eros had smashed into Venus and commenced construction of SOMETHING only barely glimpsed. A ship entering Venus's atmosphere for a closer look was summarily disassembled midair by an unseen force. The Rocinante managed to finally kill the Protomolecule monster, but others may exist. They also tracked and nearly rescued Meng's daughter in the secret research facility on Ganymede, but some of the perpetrators escaped with her. She's shown to be alive. On Earth, Errinwright is definitely moving to consolidate power, after murdering the Martian Defense Minister and trying to kill Avasarala. Not entirely sure what his endgame is. Fred Johnson has the only (known) protomolecule sample AND a stable full of Earth's nuclear missiles. The cat recap for Season 2 has not been released, but here's Season 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ivej0OW7WZk Season 3 episode names/dates yet to be released. AlternateAccount fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Mar 8, 2018 |
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HMU with the dozens of mistakes that no doubt exist in the OP.
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Kazinsal posted:Ground floor. Every goddamn time. I always forget this. Dancer posted:How the gently caress did you not mention 2nd best accent holder in the show Drummer (1st being Krisjen)? I struggle with this, but my subjective criteria was to basically only list characters that are viewpoint characters in the books or major players with a ton of scenes. Drummer is undeniably great, but we can go several episodes without seeing her. This is sad, but true. Tighclops posted:You need pictures of the spaceships in your thread about the spaceship show Will do. Toast Museum posted:Other population figures: nine billion on Mars, 50 to 100 million in the Belt and outer planets (Earth/Mars claims vs. OPA claims). Largest population center beyond Mars's orbit is Ceres with a population of six million. Got it. Toast Museum posted:Also, I think you're underestimating the travel times a bit. Earth to Luna might be hours, but pretty much anything else is days to weeks, and the moons of Saturn and beyond take months to each. Still beats the years it would take with the methods we have now, of course, and the show hasn't exactly played up travel times so far. I think you're right, edited. And yeah, the show makes things happen when they need to happen. (shrug). Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:I like this OP. Agreeing with the above that this scene was gratuitous and terrible.
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Westworld thread trolling is mostly about people being bad at watching shows or debating its core concepts. The AC thread is mostly down to changes from book-to-show. Westworld suffers from being a kind of stupid show that's very deep up its own rear end but has fantastic performances and amazing production value. If only the Expanse had HBO money behind it :[
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Mar 9, 2018 19:47
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Prax you fuckin dunce.
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Mar 30, 2018 03:06
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404notfound posted:Cotyar played a very minor role in the books, to the point where I honestly don't even remember what happened to him. His role on the show has diverged enough at this point that I don't think anybody could tell you what's going to happen. Wife has sworn she will quit watching the show if Cotyar dies :[
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Filler ep, but a pretty good one. Also, yeah, the railgun thing is kind of nonsensical. Getting from Earth to say, Saturn, at c would take what, about an hour? And you can tell from the shot that the projectile is not moving anywhere near that fast. So best case, the Martians have a few hours to respond, and could probably move their platforms via a radio signal that will handily outrun the shot. AND AND AND they didn't actually fire the guns in such a way for simultaneous impact, they all fire at once. Unless you assume that they tuned the velocity of each shot to all hit simultaneously. That doesn't make much sense, since you're going to be leashed to the timing for the longest shot, giving Mars even more of a window. And we KNOW Mars can respond, because a delay of only a few seconds allowed them to fire some missiles. Oh well, (shrug). And yeah, stealth in space is functionally impossible. If nothing else, I can scan a full sky with high resolution cameras every second and look for optical differences. Your'e still gonna block starlight. AlternateAccount fucked around with this message at 16:05 on May 3, 2018 |
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May 3, 2018 16:02
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Stars are very small and the sky is very big. You all have a lot of faith in optical technology but a fundamental misunderstanding of the inverse square law. Eh, I think I was thinking mostly of this: http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/spacewardetect.php Isn't there a big map on the UN table during that ep? They looked a lot further away than that to me. Ten light seconds still isn't very far away, but fair enough, maybe the stealth was such that they felt they could be close. edit: Also, I am not misunderstanding inverse square. I mean poo poo, we have the ability to recognize an object passing in front of another start across the galaxy with current tech, so it's not a stretch to have the ability to distinguish changes more quickly and accurately a few hundred years hence. AlternateAccount fucked around with this message at 17:03 on May 3, 2018 |
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May 3, 2018 16:39
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Grand Fromage posted:This happens every time the topic comes up on SA. Yeah, give the show credit that most of the time, you see people avoiding attention by looking like something else, or just being part of the background noise with nothing to stand out.
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May 3, 2018 17:01
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Good ep. Book readers be chill, plz.
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May 10, 2018 04:51
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Well this is some bullshit, but you should probably blame SyFy less and blame advertisers more. They deeply prioritize their ads being seen in a timely fashion, hence timeshifted DVR viewing being not ideal for them. Totally stuck in the past. Also, acting chops aside, Holden hews pretty closely to his book incarnation, so it's just hilarious when everyone complains about him being a bit of a one-note idealistic shithead with poor consequence prediction. Guys, that's his whole schtick.
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May 11, 2018 15:23
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Mu Zeta posted:So Steven Strait is intentionally being a poo poo actor? Good to know. I think it's more that even a "good actor" would still be portraying a character that most people wouldn't particularly like.
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May 11, 2018 15:40
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StashAugustine posted:this is just a plot to get me to read the books right That's thin soup, because just about every plot line is improved on the TV show to some degree. It's gonna give you a real bad case of MIGHT HAVE BEEN.
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May 11, 2018 16:30
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facialimpediment posted:This statement rules. Obligatory didn't ask for this :[
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May 11, 2018 17:39
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Combat Pretzel posted:I've read SpoilerTV and am glad that at least two key things should still make it into this season: DUMB SPOILERY poo poo Why do you feel like this was a post worth making?
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May 11, 2018 18:30
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Svaha posted:This bit has me worried. Everyone seems to be petitioning Netflix to pick up the show, but Can Netflix even do that if Amazon has the streaming rights? Does Amazon have exclusive streaming rights in the US? It would appear not, seeing as it's also on Itunes, but who knows what tangle of legal shitfuckery is going on behind the scenes... Netflix could always produce it, then sell it to Amazon for streaming in the US and continue to stream internationally. That might be more cooperation than we should hope for tho.
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May 11, 2018 18:31
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Ojjeorago posted:I blame the cancellation solely on OP never fixing the shitpost tag. Shame on you, AlternateAccount. Feeling a little attacked right now.
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May 11, 2018 22:49
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Honestly, I wish we could just go to a model where I can pay a buck or two per episode and call it good. No ads, no bullshit. I would actually do this without hesitation. I know you can do similar in iTunes and Amazon, but if that's more than a single digit percentage of revenues, I'd be shocked. Reliance on advertising is a lovely model and being beholden to weird things apart from I LIKE THIS SHOW AND WILL MAKE EFFORT TO WATCH IT is really bad :\
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May 12, 2018 16:37
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Guys, we have a lot of season left, no matter what happens. The cancellation is not an invitation to come in here and start posting MIGHT HAVE BEENS and POSSIBLE FUTURE PLOT POINTS. Thanks, kopeng.
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May 14, 2018 17:17
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I was gonna make a bunch of the MCRN coffee cups, but the mug to start with is a bitch to find in red, and absurdly expensive :\
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May 15, 2018 19:15
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*sigh* That sure was a lot of posts. 
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May 16, 2018 18:20
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Cingulate posted:
Sometimes they are, tho
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May 16, 2018 19:25
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Yeah that Amos line was super telegraphed but still 100% worked. Also a PARTICULAR DEATH has the wife very twisted up, as threatened. I don’t wanna have to go back to watching this alone.
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May 17, 2018 04:45
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Baronjutter posted:This is expanse 1.5 and I don't want to go back to version 1.0. This is pretty accurate, but that doesn't mean the books are BAD. And they make up for it in the volume of information, there's a lot that's chopped and condensed for TV. Still probably worth the effort, and not at all difficult reads. That said.... if I had the option, I probably would have skipped the books until after the TV situation was resolved. Knowing what's coming does take a bit of the shine off. But eh, that's pretty subjective.
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May 17, 2018 17:26
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Oh, the only thing that made me ehhhhhhh last night was the Razorback apparently being a super light purpose-built racer that.... can also land on the surface of a moon and take off again.
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May 17, 2018 17:35
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Snowman Crossing posted:My only gripe with the show is Bobbie's power armor. IIRC in the books her boots were thinner profile, with a raised heel to keep her on the front of her feet and ready for action. Her legs and arms were uncovered to be unencumbered in close quarters grappling. Her suit extended from crotch to neck and was a sleek, form-fitting, glossy black material that allowed her to manuever in tight spaces. Instead of firearms, which act as thrust vectors in zero G, she carried a braided leather whip, and she would use it on me for being a bad little earther and maybe step on my nuts a little Holy poo poo dude. No. tooterfish posted:It's built to withstand at least 6g, Io's gravity would barely tickle it. Aight fair enough.
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May 17, 2018 19:03
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If Amazon is expressing this much interest, really it’s just negotiations at this point. Like they just have to make the deal. Good news.
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May 22, 2018 03:50
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NZAmoeba posted:Also nothing from the books should really be posted at all, spoiler tags or not. And ESPECIALLY not without some mention beforehand that book spoilers are contained within. It's super loving dickish to post a block of black with no indication if it's "Safe if you're up to date with the TV show" or "Oh hey this massive thing will eventually happen in the show but hasn't yet lol gently caress you" Yes please. I feel like this got a little loose with the cancellation announcement but please be cool. Don’t rob people of the moments that are what got you so excited to share that spoiler in the first place.
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May 23, 2018 02:52
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NTRabbit posted:Cas will be debuting the rap he wrote to get more people watching and boost the SyFy numbers I can totally believe this. Would be simultaneously max cringe and dawww
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May 23, 2018 15:34
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Fister Roboto posted:PS mods please change the thread title to URINE - DO NOT DRINK Officially requested. Also the Amazon thing will come through, it just takes a while. A lot of ins, lot of outs, a lot of interested parties, etc.
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May 25, 2018 15:58
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Taintrunner posted:WESTWORLD SPOILERS Please go play in a fire. I think people are underselling what a gigantic technical marvel the Nauvoo is. I think it's basically the biggest man-made object in the system.
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May 26, 2018 00:57
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For fucks sake, lighten up.
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May 26, 2018 15:38
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Elentor posted:I for one am super glad that I'm getting more of this. Oh me too. I can’t believe it worked. But goddamn, some people sure do hate Bezos. That’s fine, I guess, but all the autistic screeching about it is annoying.
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May 26, 2018 15:46
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Tighclops posted:Like if you're just snorting in your chair going "lighten up" at these comments its cause you're a pampered inner bitch that is lucky to afford to feel that way, thanks [[laughs in smug cash-spending Earther]]
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May 26, 2018 18:35
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CLAM DOWN posted:Does Amazon inject their branding into other shows similar to this like that high castle one, or are goons being hyperbolic and unfunny as per usual? It’s funny because Bezos is rich you see and furthermore...
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May 26, 2018 20:43
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Hey did you guys hear Biff Tannen owns The Expanse now?
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May 27, 2018 02:54
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How about we just say no more spoiler tags in this thread? If it would need tags, it shouldn’t be posted in this thread.
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May 27, 2018 16:09
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Fister Roboto posted:We can banish bookreaders to another thread and forbid spoiler tags all we want, and it still won't keep people from freaking out about potential spoilers, trailer spoilers, speculation spoilers, etc, because some goons are a bunch of paranoid neurotics about gleaning even the slightest glimmer of future information about their spaceship laser pew pew stories. You're not at all wrong, but goons are not remotely capable of acting in this very reasonable manner, as a whole.
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May 27, 2018 19:16
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Open Source Idiom posted:I appreciate that I've been given a chance to develop my ideas with you lot. You're good people. : ) Just want to call out this post and this user for being A+. Made a good argument, was rational, polite, and saw that it had run its course and contributed to some interesting discussion but was teetering on the cliff. Real real good, thank you.
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StarkingBarfish posted:About the heat dissipation? The missile and ship were both travelling at high speed, so they had a lot of kinetic energy. They went from very fast to nearly stationary so that kinetic energy had to be converted to some other form- in this case heat I guess? Yeah, but the protomolecule has previously demonstrated that it gives no shits about laws of conservation. Also, sorry for the guaranteed unpopular opinion, but the belter accent grates hard on my ears. Sounds like everyone just took a punch in the mouth or just got back from the dentist.
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