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Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



oh and once i saw two universal adapters in one computer

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Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



two receivers one cpu

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Agile Vector posted:

seeing one of those on a laptop at work is a sure sign you will see that person repeatedly dropping their mouse trying to walk to a meeting

i know trackpads are novel to some people but for a slide deck they dont need their 11 button logitech and they seem real perplexed by this

otoh, it seems like kids these days have quit learning how to use a mouse

at least two thirds of my students, who apparently have only ever used a laptop computer, do all their design work with the trackpad. illustrator, photoshop, solidworks, you name it. it's absolutely infuriating to watch because they are so slow. i tell them "buy a mouse, seriously, it will really improve your experience" and they go "i like the trackpad, i know how to use it and it works" and they spend 30 seconds painstakingly finger-dragging to do something that takes me a flick of the mouse and a keyboard shortcut. and they do it badly, too. if i never have to watch a student move a line back and forth 20 times trying to get it placed correctly because their finger does not allow single-pixel precision, it'll be too soon.

on occasion, when i'm trying to walk them through something and they're just stubbornly plodding along, i will say "let me just show you on my computer" and then deliberately blast through the thing they've been trying to do for 10 minutes in 3.8 seconds and stare at them while it sinks in before going back to show them step-by step.

argh. this topic really angries up my blood

Bulgakov
Mar 8, 2009


рукописи не горят

Sagebrush posted:

otoh, it seems like kids these days have quit learning how to use a mouse

at least two thirds of my students, who apparently have only ever used a laptop computer, do all their design work with the trackpad. illustrator, photoshop, solidworks, you name it. it's absolutely infuriating to watch because they are so slow. i tell them "buy a mouse, seriously, it will really improve your experience" and they go "i like the trackpad, i know how to use it and it works" and they spend 30 seconds painstakingly finger-dragging to do something that takes me a flick of the mouse and a keyboard shortcut. and they do it badly, too. if i never have to watch a student move a line back and forth 20 times trying to get it placed correctly because their finger does not allow single-pixel precision, it'll be too soon.

on occasion, when i'm trying to walk them through something and they're just stubbornly plodding along, i will say "let me just show you on my computer" and then deliberately blast through the thing they've been trying to do for 10 minutes in 3.8 seconds and stare at them while it sinks in before going back to show them step-by step.

argh. this topic really angries up my blood

"my students" borat

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

nong posted:

shaggar, bsd and sagebrush, ya'll so so wrong and racist for lumping the taiwanese and chinese together

because pretty much ALL of the so called 'chinese manufacturing' are actually taiwanese corps that has factories in china using cheap chinese labors, they are passable because those taiwanese corps managing the factories and acting as gatekeepers/qa/qc

it's true that a lot of the high-grade output is from taiwanese firms' mainland plants

that doesn't change anything about chinese business as a whole. it is not somehow racist to point out that mainland chinese courts have little interest in assisting foreign litigators

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

Sagebrush posted:

otoh, it seems like kids these days have quit learning how to use a mouse

at least two thirds of my students, who apparently have only ever used a laptop computer, do all their design work with the trackpad. illustrator, photoshop, solidworks, you name it. it's absolutely infuriating to watch because they are so slow. i tell them "buy a mouse, seriously, it will really improve your experience" and they go "i like the trackpad, i know how to use it and it works" and they spend 30 seconds painstakingly finger-dragging to do something that takes me a flick of the mouse and a keyboard shortcut. and they do it badly, too. if i never have to watch a student move a line back and forth 20 times trying to get it placed correctly because their finger does not allow single-pixel precision, it'll be too soon.

on occasion, when i'm trying to walk them through something and they're just stubbornly plodding along, i will say "let me just show you on my computer" and then deliberately blast through the thing they've been trying to do for 10 minutes in 3.8 seconds and stare at them while it sinks in before going back to show them step-by step.

argh. this topic really angries up my blood

[T]ell us about your preferred forms of human-computer interface, from least-preferred to most.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
hell the major difference in business climate between taiwan and the mainland isn't culture

taiwan is mostly chinese, demographically. it is a distinctly chinese culture, where chinese languages are the primary language. but taiwan is a vibrant democracy with working courts and institutions subject to public scrutiny, and the mainland is a one-party state with censored media

funny how that changes the business ethos

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Schadenboner posted:

[T]ell us about your preferred forms of human-computer interface, from least-preferred to most.

all HIDs are good for the thing they're meant for, but a mouse is unequivocally and inarguably the best tool for accurate manipulation of graphical data on the screen.

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

Sagebrush posted:

otoh, it seems like kids these days have quit learning how to use a mouse

at least two thirds of my students, who apparently have only ever used a laptop computer, do all their design work with the trackpad. illustrator, photoshop, solidworks, you name it. it's absolutely infuriating to watch because they are so slow. i tell them "buy a mouse, seriously, it will really improve your experience" and they go "i like the trackpad, i know how to use it and it works" and they spend 30 seconds painstakingly finger-dragging to do something that takes me a flick of the mouse and a keyboard shortcut. and they do it badly, too. if i never have to watch a student move a line back and forth 20 times trying to get it placed correctly because their finger does not allow single-pixel precision, it'll be too soon.

on occasion, when i'm trying to walk them through something and they're just stubbornly plodding along, i will say "let me just show you on my computer" and then deliberately blast through the thing they've been trying to do for 10 minutes in 3.8 seconds and stare at them while it sinks in before going back to show them step-by step.

argh. this topic really angries up my blood

I hate the people who turn Caps Lock on and off at the start of every sentence and proper noun

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

i hate how gaming is going towards dota and, i guess, because i've never played them, other sorts of games for idiots that only use 1 or 2 buttons because i really like having a 7 button mouse. my least favorite mouse buttons are the ones they put below the scroll wheel because my hands are too big to hit them without probably getting rsi

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
i got a logitech mouse and I really wanted to like it but the mouse acceleration profile was infurating.. could NEVER find a good combo of speed and acceleration and it ddnt seem to just use ordinary windows one which is perfect


also ironically the laser was better and would work when the mouse was slightly above the mouse pad, I realose I pick up the mouse often to re-place it to continue moving, but this one that never worked coz the laser was stil picking it up so had to move it high

the very cheap microsoft mouse that comes with a very cost effective wireless keyboard/mouse and dongle is so good

not bluetooth so dont have to worry about operating system either. just works and I think Ive changed batteries three times in ever? its a fuckin excellent mouse

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles

Sagebrush posted:

otoh, it seems like kids these days have quit learning how to use a mouse

at least two thirds of my students, who apparently have only ever used a laptop computer, do all their design work with the trackpad. illustrator, photoshop, solidworks, you name it. it's absolutely infuriating to watch because they are so slow. i tell them "buy a mouse, seriously, it will really improve your experience" and they go "i like the trackpad, i know how to use it and it works" and they spend 30 seconds painstakingly finger-dragging to do something that takes me a flick of the mouse and a keyboard shortcut. and they do it badly, too. if i never have to watch a student move a line back and forth 20 times trying to get it placed correctly because their finger does not allow single-pixel precision, it'll be too soon.

on occasion, when i'm trying to walk them through something and they're just stubbornly plodding along, i will say "let me just show you on my computer" and then deliberately blast through the thing they've been trying to do for 10 minutes in 3.8 seconds and stare at them while it sinks in before going back to show them step-by step.

argh. this topic really angries up my blood

not a problem on my Mac trackpad

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

I've been using trackpads for ~15 years and I still reach for a mouse if I have to do anything remotely design-ey

I've had to do actual work on a trackpad and it's painful

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

BangersInMyKnickers posted:

not a problem on my Mac trackpad

Lol. You're incompetent

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

i fuckin love dongles

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Sagebrush posted:

otoh, it seems like kids these days have quit learning how to use a mouse

at least two thirds of my students, who apparently have only ever used a laptop computer, do all their design work with the trackpad. illustrator, photoshop, solidworks, you name it. it's absolutely infuriating to watch because they are so slow. i tell them "buy a mouse, seriously, it will really improve your experience" and they go "i like the trackpad, i know how to use it and it works" and they spend 30 seconds painstakingly finger-dragging to do something that takes me a flick of the mouse and a keyboard shortcut. and they do it badly, too. if i never have to watch a student move a line back and forth 20 times trying to get it placed correctly because their finger does not allow single-pixel precision, it'll be too soon.

on occasion, when i'm trying to walk them through something and they're just stubbornly plodding along, i will say "let me just show you on my computer" and then deliberately blast through the thing they've been trying to do for 10 minutes in 3.8 seconds and stare at them while it sinks in before going back to show them step-by step.

argh. this topic really angries up my blood

people who grew up on tragic macpads are forever doomed to slow and terrible input

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

actually the office workers of tomorrow are all going to sit around poking their fat fingers at the screen because that's the only input method they know how to use

thanks microsoft (although it was mostly apples fault)

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

r u ready to WALK posted:

thanks microsoft (although it was mostly apples fault)

lol apples fault for making a computer people actually like using

jammyozzy
Dec 7, 2006

Is that a challenge?

Sagebrush posted:

otoh, it seems like kids these days have quit learning how to use a mouse

at least two thirds of my students, who apparently have only ever used a laptop computer, do all their design work with the trackpad. illustrator, photoshop, solidworks, you name it. it's absolutely infuriating to watch because they are so slow. i tell them "buy a mouse, seriously, it will really improve your experience" and they go "i like the trackpad, i know how to use it and it works" and they spend 30 seconds painstakingly finger-dragging to do something that takes me a flick of the mouse and a keyboard shortcut. and they do it badly, too. if i never have to watch a student move a line back and forth 20 times trying to get it placed correctly because their finger does not allow single-pixel precision, it'll be too soon.

on occasion, when i'm trying to walk them through something and they're just stubbornly plodding along, i will say "let me just show you on my computer" and then deliberately blast through the thing they've been trying to do for 10 minutes in 3.8 seconds and stare at them while it sinks in before going back to show them step-by step.

argh. this topic really angries up my blood

I cannot imagine how quickly I would lose my mind trying to do CAD on a trackpad. It's bad enough if I sit down at someone else's desk and they don't have a spacemouse, I will keep reflexively feeling to the left of the keyboard for it when I get pissed off with the lovely mouse controls.

They've put a touch interface into the new version of our software, presumably so at trade shows and the like you can awkwardly show customers poo poo on your tablet before accidentally vanishing it because the software suddenly decided the rotation point should be somewhere meters away in space.

OldAlias
Nov 2, 2013

I’ve done a lot of gis & rs with a trackpad and it sucks, if I don’t have a mouse I look for programmatic solutions

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

LastInLine posted:

lol apples fault for making a computer people actually like using

a good computer for people to play bideo james watch porn ~consume content~ on is not necessarily a good computer for people to do actual work on, hth

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

suck my woke dick posted:

a good computer for people to play bideo james watch porn ~consume content~ on is not necessarily a good computer for people to do actual work on, hth

some say that if you love your job youll never work a day in your life

others might say that work sucks and even a tool is great for doing that job its not like they like using that tool or doing that job. i wonder if warehouse workers who really like their jobs want to trade in the rav4 for a forklift

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Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



LastInLine posted:

some say that if you love your job youll never work a day in your life

others might say that work sucks and even a tool is great for doing that job its not like they like using that tool or doing that job. i wonder if warehouse workers who really like their jobs want to trade in the rav4 for a forklift

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