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DeathSandwich
Apr 24, 2008

I fucking hate puzzles.


GOON DISCORD IS HERE: https://discord.gg/XeAaDY3


What is Vermintide:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kSdE5cLnwQ
Imagine this but then they all come for you in a bloodthirsty rage.

Have a gameplay video from back in beta: https://youtu.be/A4PsuOqoQo4
The core gameplay around Vermintide is going to be inherently familiar to anyone who has played Left 4 Dead. Set in the Warhammer universe, the game pits four survivors from disparate backgrounds come together and bond over their mutual love of running places and murdering rats. Like Left 4 Dead 2, people who have played the first game should be right at home, the core mechanics are mostly undisturbed while the players have more tools at their disposal to bash rats.

So what’s new from the first game?
Obviously we have a new series of maps for which to bash rats in, but that’s not all:

+Chaos has joined the fight. Now mixed in with the waves of skaven are the hordes of marauding norsemen of the Chaos god Nurgle. They are gross. They wheeze at you constantly. They are harder to put down than standard rats. They come with their own set of specials: Two sorcerer variants (Blightstorm callers and Lifeleechers), the Norse champions, and Warriors of Chaos, along with Chaos Spawn and Bile Trolls as new boss monsters that can potentially take the place of the Rat Ogre.

+The Skaven are also coming to bear with new specials as well. Warpfire throwers are now on the scene to hose down you and your friends in concentrated warcrime. Stormfiends (rat ogres equipped with warpfire throwers and heavy armor) have also hit the field as a potential boss monster.

+But that’s not to say that the heroes didn’t come prepared as well. Each hero can choose one of three careers that each comes with unique passive and active abilities, as well as a talent tree to allow you ways to differentiate from each other further. To top this off, we’re looking at 9-10 new weapons spread out among the crew to better help them bash rats with on top of all the weapons (minus one) from the original game + DLCs.

So who are the player characters?

Victor Saltzpyre: Likes to think he’s the leader of the group but nobody pays him much mind. Saltzpyre tends to skew towards light, fast weapons as the tools of his trade. Likes purging, Blessed Sigmar, and pistols. Dislikes rats, heresy, and the elf.

His three careers are:
Witch Hunter Captain, an all-rounder career focused on bonus damage for marked targets and feeding his party critical hits.
Bounty Hunter A Ranged combat focused career that likes to mix up melee and ranged attacks to feed him critical hits.
Zealot A melee focused career that gets more dangerous as his health gets lower.
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Markus Kruber: He was Victor’s bodyguard/escort in the first game and went off the deep end a bit between games when he found out his family had been killed by the rats. Primarily operates out of an alcoholic fugue now. He tends toward infantry weapons like heavy blades, rifles, shields, and two handed weapons like a Warhammer or halberd. Has a swanky hat.

His three Careers are:
Mercenary: An offensive career that gets bonuses for hitting multiple enemies per swing and increased cleaving power. His active grants temporary health to help soak damage from a boss or vicious wave.
Huntsman: A ranged career that focuses on getting mega damage headshots. He can gain temporary stealth to move around the fight unmolested and turn his blunderbuss into the thundering hammer of god Taal.
Knight: A defensive career that has damage resistance standard. Has a hilarious charge active with a short cooldown, play this if you love shouting SIRKRUBER! at everyone.
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Sienna Fuegonassus: Is a wizard of the bright college and is an obligate pyromaniac. Sienna is unique in that she does not have traditional ranged weaponry, she uses spells instead which behave in similar fashion but do not use ammunition. Instead she has a heat meter that determines how much she can use her spells. If you over exert yourself you overheat and explode, downing yourself instantly, so don’t overdo it.

Her three careers are:
Battle Wizard: A ranged focused career that focuses on keeping your heat low to keep you casting more often. Her active is a short range dash.
Pyromaniac: A ranged focused career that focuses less on heat management and moreso on doing high damage in general. Her active is a homing firebolt on a short cooldown that doesn’t build heat.
Unchained: A melee focused career that sacrifices on spell potency to allow you to do more melee damage when you are at high heat. Taking damage builds up heat, so be careful not to accidentally overload yourself by getting tagged by a slave.
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Bardin Goreksson: A dwarf who joined the characters of the first game to try and get them to help find an ancient dwarf hold. He was apparently not successful in this venture. Of all the characters in this game, he seems to be the one who is legitimately loving every minute of this poo poo and having a great time killing rats and norsemen. Uses dwarfy weapons like axes and hammers and rifles, but also gets access to a couple of flame belching guns that run off of the same heat mechanic that Sienna uses.

His three careers are:
Ranger Veteran: A ranged focus career that causes special enemies to drop ammo satchels, allowing everyone in the group to maintain their ranged supplies for longer. At higher levels he can opt to turn some ammo drops into healing or stat potions.
Ironbreaker A defense focused career that specializes in being an immovable brick shithouse and making GBS threads great gouts of warcrime fire everywhere with a drakegun.
Slayer An offense focused career that gives up a ranged weapon entirely. In exchange for that, he gets the ability to equip a second melee weapon as well as a potent passive that gives him more damage the more he attacks.
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Kerillian: An elf. She is very whiny and complains about everyone else constantly. All the other characters hate her. Pubbies love her because she’s emo Legolas. May or may not be cursed by the magical hellforest she calls home. She uses blades and daggers in various combinations as well as spears and bows.

Her three careers are:
Waywatcher: A ranged focus career that gives her passive health regeneration. Her active is a trueshot volley that auto-homes in on your target, to compensate the fact that they struck the regular trueshot bow from the game.
Handmaiden: A defensive career that focuses on increased dodging ability and stamina regeneration. She can stand people up without being interrupted, which would be a huge deal If not for the fact that basically anyone can do so.
Shade: An offensive career that focuses on backstabbing and listening to Evanescence albums on repeat. She can actually do some incredible damage if left to her antics (and if she can get behind the mob) and can oneshot chaos warriors from behind.

DeathSandwich fucked around with this message at Mar 8, 2018 around 19:32

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Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!



Killing rats is good, folks

DeathSandwich
Apr 24, 2008

I fucking hate puzzles.


I lived under a rock my whole life and never played the first game. What do I need to know?
Since this is a Left 4 Dead inspired game, a lot of the same rules that applied there apply here as well. Stay together and support each other because the special rats and norsemen usually have ways to either disable you or lop of large chunks of your health.

+Play to your strengths and try to cover other’s weaknesses. If you are buddied up with a greatsword wielding Kruber, he’s going to do work on big swarms of rats, but is going to have trouble dealing with armor. Therefore, if Saltzpyre or Baradin bring out an axe, it’ll allow them to be a can opener when Kruber is having trouble with that chaos warrior.

+Unlike Left 4 Dead, you really can’t expect to rely solely on your ranged weapon, even as a ranged focused class. Most ranged weapons carry between 12 and 30ish shots and heat is a limiting factor for the Wizard and the Dwarf’s flame guns. Ammunition is limited and there are always more rats who need bashed. Break out that sword and get to swinging.

+No two weapons are going to play exactly alike. Some weapon types come with things like improved Armor piercing or even an ancillary ranged weapon in the case of Victor’s rapier. Experiment with your characters weapons and get a feel for what you like and what doesn’t. The balance is pretty reasonable and there are very few bad choices.

+Blocking works in a 360 degree radius around you, though it is less effective from the sides and rear and uses up more of your stamina (those shields that pop up with you raise your guard). Some weapons have wider block ranges like shield + weapons, and some like daggers have narrower effective block ranges. You can also cancel any of your own attack animations by throwing up your guard if you aren’t going to get a charged attack off before something hits you.

+Use your dodging. If you hold side to side or backwards and hit spacebar, you’ll do a dodge in that direction. This is especially important for slower weapons like the Warhammer, where you want to stick and move to prevent getting attacked on your next wind up.

+Most of the “big” maps will have three tomes and two grimoires. Picking them up is not required but bringing them to the end of the map will reward you with better loot. Tomes are carried in your healing slot, meaning you won’t be able to carry a health kit while you have one, though if you run across healing you can drop the tome, drink the health potion, then pick the tome up again. Grimoires are a bit more insidious. They take up your speed/strength/concentration potion slot, but while someone is carrying a grimoire everyone’s health is cut by 1/3rd (or 2/3rds if you have both of them). If someone drops a grimoire (or is killed while carrying it), It blows up and is done for the rest of the mission.

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Lunethex and friends talk about how to handle combat in Vermintide 1. Obviously for the old game but a lot of the old concepts still apply: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs7V_quitpk

SIR KRUBER THE HERO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU3djLos_zY

DeathSandwich fucked around with this message at Mar 12, 2018 around 14:18

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

THE CODEX NERDSTARTES DOES NOT SUPPORT YOUR NIETZSCHEAN SUPERMEN ARTWORK! SO SAYETH WE ALL! *fart*

Fun Shoe

Remember: Always fight the rat.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!


RAT

KILL

KILL

RAT

Martout
Aug 8, 2007

None so deprived


crucial tips for beginners:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pfVGfWEUOw

Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006

Do Randroids Dream of Objective Sheep?

OH GOOD I was quietly pulling for this thread title

Zhulik
Nov 14, 2012

Pretender to the throne





No, John. You are the rats.

Martout
Aug 8, 2007

None so deprived


Willie Tomg posted:

OH GOOD I was quietly pulling for this thread title

Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006

Do Randroids Dream of Objective Sheep?

Zhulik posted:

No, John. You are the rats.

you meme, but the game is positively HOWLING for a verminlord boss even though clan fester is so hapless it'd only show up for dinner if you know what i mean

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005

OFFICIAL BITCH OF DANBO DAXTER




Oven Wrangler

This game is loving awesome and everyone should play it.

DeathSandwich
Apr 24, 2008

I fucking hate puzzles.


I want the final boss to be that grey seer riding a Hell Pit Abomination.

Phyresis
Nov 2, 2004

I can't sleep, I hope I stay awake

Cause I've been running, running, running all day

Long nights, no peace

I feel like everybody's eyes on me


Bad Rats 2 is fun and good

BigHead
Jul 25, 2003
Huh?

Nap Ghost

Coolguye posted:

nah, and the dumb thing is that there's a lot of things interesting in these actives/passives that are not documented in game. but off the top of my head:

Marky K:
Merc:
Passive: Sweeping Strikes - hitting 3+ enemies in one strike increases your attack speed by 10% for 5 seconds
Active: Morale Boost - Knocks down nearby enemies, gives temporary health to nearby allies

Huntsman:
Passive: Waste not want not - Critical headshot restores 1 ammo. Double ammo. Critical strike aura
Active: Stalk - Go invisible for a brief while. When revealed, all attacks (melee and ranged) do 1.5x damage* for 10 seconds.
(*: This still feels like a lot more)

Foot Knight:
Passive: Damage resist aura. Increased health. Increased Stamina.
Active: Anime Charge - Charge forward with the power of anime and knock down everyone in your path


Dwarfy B:
Veteran Ranger:
Passive: Killed specials drop a small bag of ammo. Double ammo in reserve.
Active: Smoke bomb allows Bardin to enter stealth for a short while

Ironbreaker:
Passive: One hit every 20 seconds does no damage. Increased stamina.
Active: Taunts all man-sized (e.g., not bosses or chaos warriors) enemies nearby. Blocking costs no stamina for 10 seconds.

Slayer:
Passive: Hitting the same target over and over increases damage.
Active: Big old jump into battle. Knocks down targets at point of impact. Increases attack speed by a lot for 10 seconds.


Salty P:
Witch Hunter Captain:
Passive: Tagged enemies take 10% more damage (it is not 25% as I thought it was a few days ago, my bad)
Active: Knocks down nearby enemies and grants bonus crit strike chance to nearby allies.

Bounty Hunter:
Passive: One shot every 8 seconds is a guaranteed critical. Can also be refreshed by getting a melee kill. Double ammo in reserve.
Active: Saltzpyre pulls out a magnum and loving executes whatever rear end in a top hat is right in front of him

Zealot:
Passive: Damage increases and interruptability decreases as health gets lower.
Active: Anime charge much like Kruber's it's great


Sassy S:
Battle Wizard:
Passive: not taking damage or casting spells for 8 seconds doubles how quickly you shed overcharge
Active: Blink forward about 30 feet

Pyromancer:
Passive: Crit rate goes up as your overcharge increases
Active: Hold F to erase anything you hate

Unchained:
Passive: Half of all damage taken goes to your overcharge instead
Active: Press F to explode, doing more damage the higher your overcharge is


Elf:
idk elf is against my religion

This is good information that should be in the new thread.

Lunethex
Feb 4, 2013

Me llamo Sarah Brandolino, the eighth Castilian of this magnificent marriage.

Wait until the patch because it's all changed from what we knew.

Zhulik
Nov 14, 2012

Pretender to the throne





They definitely hosed with careers some, because I glanced at the stream at some point and they were idling in the keep as a level 1 slayer bardin.

Atoramos
Aug 31, 2003

Jim's now a Blind Cave Salamander!


Zhulik posted:

They definitely hosed with careers some, because I glanced at the stream at some point and they were idling in the keep as a level 1 slayer bardin.

No they specifically said this is because they're logged in as a dev accont

DeathSandwich
Apr 24, 2008

I fucking hate puzzles.


Zhulik posted:

They definitely hosed with careers some, because I glanced at the stream at some point and they were idling in the keep as a level 1 slayer bardin.

I'm betting they are in debug mode.

Zhulik
Nov 14, 2012

Pretender to the throne





Oh, I see.

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

"HATERS GONNA HATE!"

STAR CITIZEN
will be the GREATEST GAME EVER!!!



I'm already a

REAR ADMIRAL what are you?


GAME LIVE

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

"HATERS GONNA HATE!"

STAR CITIZEN
will be the GREATEST GAME EVER!!!



I'm already a

REAR ADMIRAL what are you?


GET IN

Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009



Grimey Drawer

Coolguye posted:

RAT

KILL

KILL

RAT

Martout
Aug 8, 2007

None so deprived



and download 19 gb

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010



Still lolling that "the release patch will drop between 18:00 and 20:00 UTC" worked out to "it dropped at 19:51".

cliffdiver
Mar 4, 2015

ON TO THE NEXT PAGE!


This Skittergate ain't gonna destroy itself, fellas.










Or actually it probably will idk.

Martout
Aug 8, 2007

None so deprived


cliffdiver posted:

This Skittergate ain't gonna destroy itself, fellas.










Or actually it probably will idk.

it'll work BUT it will cost the lives of countless skaven as they scurry to fix it, much like fatshark employees this evening probably

Digirat
Sep 14, 2011

stinking
rat-vole
rodent
piece of
TRASH


https://i.imgur.com/hNbiuut.gifv

https://i.imgur.com/1DmVQ29.gifv

https://i.imgur.com/1xBmpW7.gifv

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!




look, they withstand even the might of a giant's hand pressing upon their cranium

These beasts must be stopped!

jubelio
Dec 10, 2003
if you can balance a tac-hammer on your head, you can head off your opponent with a balanced attack

This is my favorite rat murder simulator

republic
Aug 15, 2004

FUN FOR THE FUN GOD
FRIENDS FOR THE FRIENDSHIP THRONE


You gotta kill all 'dese rats.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Don't worry my friends. I will be your shield.


If these rats came scurrying out of the depths of the earth to conquer the surface, poo poo, I would just let them

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Everybody's Fool


Do we have to reinstall? Game still has giant BETA, four maps, and cosmetics tab is still inaccessible despite having the VT1 reward.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Royal Guard


Now it's time for me to wait 6 hours cause my internet sucks.

DeathSandwich
Apr 24, 2008

I fucking hate puzzles.


It's dangerous to go alone, take this rat stick:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzj6EeFi_7U

Digirat
Sep 14, 2011

stinking
rat-vole
rodent
piece of
TRASH


Digirat
Sep 14, 2011

stinking
rat-vole
rodent
piece of
TRASH


https://i.imgur.com/7OoFQYH.gifv

https://i.imgur.com/3lka5oT.gifv

https://i.imgur.com/eHb5cMS.gifv

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS


Pants Donkey posted:

Do we have to reinstall? Game still has giant BETA, four maps, and cosmetics tab is still inaccessible despite having the VT1 reward.

There is a ~19.7 GB update. Restart Steam if you cannot see it. Also, it's on the game itself not the previous Closed Beta Test. You can delete the latter.

Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006

Do Randroids Dream of Objective Sheep?

edit the OP to this video and a single period

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIWss-_5HGM

Rayjenkins
Oct 2, 2011



Still liked whoever called it Ratboys 2: Enter The Rotboys.

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AggressivelyStupid
Jan 9, 2012



holy sigmar...

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