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Mr. Crow
May 22, 2008

Snap City mayor for life
I have literally never had my sensors blown out in 3 years I've played this, except maybe once or twice getting hammered by missiles but at that point I'm more concerned about everything else.

Integrity is a basically meaningless stat unless you're hull tanking or doing competitive PvP, I guess.

You're more likely to go back to base out of ammo than need to repair a critical module or something.

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jubjub64
Feb 17, 2011

Bumbler posted:

I took a Courier exploring so I could race around in all the awesome canyons I found in deep space. I made it about 5k LY before I splattered into a canyon wall and ended that exploration trip prematurely, but it was good fun while it lasted

I have been watching Malik_VR on twitch. He has a commercial helicopter rating so his flight skills are really fun to watch. He does canyon runs in VR every so often and they are so fun to watch. He even plays music like the Airwolf theme or Danger Zone. He got me into doing my own canyon runs as well.

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

jboslund posted:

Took me 11 runs to get from knight to duke, so from baron would maybe be 8-ish.

Also good for picking up your 25 modular terminals if you don't have them yet. Which, speaking of, I just set out for the Rosette nebula to unlock Palin, and 6 jumps in I swing by HIP 63835 to see it for myself and manage to take damage from one of the black holes trying to get a photo. gently caress it, not gonna turn around and get repairs. Onwards! :shepface:

Top exploration tip: don't fly into black holes.

Rapacity
Sep 12, 2007
Grand
I've been doing the road to riches in my cobra and I've made about 80 million so far. I'd like to buy a proper explorer to carry on doing it but I have no idea what.

I've been looking around and it seems I could afford a pretty well fitted asp explorer but does anyone have any suggestions? Or could share a nice pimp asp-e fit please? cheers

Arcturas
Mar 30, 2011

The classic explorers are the asp x and DBX, depending on whether you want a little more jump range or much faster fuel scooping time. The cockpits are both high visibility, and the DBX is a cooler looking ship, but both work very well.

Blind Rasputin
Nov 25, 2002

Farewell, good Hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.

Yeah the grind to duke was really very short. This obviously needs to be patched to reduce the number of missions available but honestly I can’t imagine grinding out these ranks 1-3 missions at a time. This game is so terribly conceptualized at times.

Gyrotica
Nov 26, 2012

Grafted to machines your builders did not understand.

Arcturas posted:

The classic explorers are the asp x and DBX, depending on whether you want a little more jump range or much faster fuel scooping time. The cockpits are both high visibility, and the DBX is a cooler looking ship, but both work very well.

I'm big on time-profit, and I've found the DBX with a level 4 fuel scoop to work really well.

Nice piece of fish
Jan 29, 2008

Ultra Carp

Gyrotica posted:

I'm big on time-profit, and I've found the DBX with a level 4 fuel scoop to work really well.

I'm with this guy, having flown both the DBX is superior for pure exploration. The Asp can do a lot of things, esp. smuggling, but for just going into the black the DBX is king.

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

Pff. Asp > all (except maybe 'Conda) because of one thing alone: redundancy.
It fits everything you need, twice. And you'll eventually need all of it, twice.

tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

AspE fits a size 6 scoop and can fill its tank from empty in 30 seconds. The DBX takes one and a half full fat loving minutes.

If you've got places to be, the AspE is king. If you're the kind of twat who stands on the left on the tube's escalators, then go ahead and get a DBX.

Gyrotica
Nov 26, 2012

Grafted to machines your builders did not understand.

Tippis posted:

Pff. Asp > all (except maybe 'Conda) because of one thing alone: redundancy.
It fits everything you need, twice. And you'll eventually need all of it, twice.

For the Road to Riches? Not in my experience.

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

Gyrotica posted:

For the Road to Riches? Not in my experience.

No, for actually going into the black and explore.

tooterfish posted:

If you're the kind of twat who stands on the left on the tube's escalators, then go ahead and get a DBX.

So what you're really saying is that they should de-criminalise the tasing of DBX owners. I can't fault that logic.

Eldragon
Feb 22, 2003

Space Skeleton posted:

If it matters to you, crappy sensors will basically render you blind vs any kind of low heat loadout.

Is there any fun gimmick you can do with a low heat loadout?

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


The DBX is my friend and I will not tolerate slander of it.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Tippis posted:

Pff. Asp > all (except maybe 'Conda) because of one thing alone: redundancy.
It fits everything you need, twice. And you'll eventually need all of it, twice.

The Asp is nice yes, but I wish we had some other good explorer besides Asp and DBX (and maybe Anaconda if you squint hard enough). Something to cover the huge gap between Anaconda and Asp, maybe?

I've been playing since 2014, and as good as the Asp is, I've flown it for years before changing it up and now I can't go back to that silly old thing

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


I would love to take a Chieftain out exploring, but because it's limited in slots you can't do a proper build. It has a decent jump range, looks cool, but no AFMU slots really if you want to do landings.

FDev, please make AFMUs able to be fitted to military slots.

Rapacity
Sep 12, 2007
Grand
Thanks for the replies... I bought a dbx pretty much solely based on looks! It looks amazing!

Arcturas
Mar 30, 2011

Rapacity posted:

Thanks for the replies... I bought a dbx pretty much solely based on looks! It looks amazing!

That's actually the correct way to decide what to fly.

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

I'd say that the recent additions have made the Asp a slightly worse choice relative to the Anaconda since it lack juuuust enough slots to also fit repair limpets to take care of that hull damage that will eventually happen. But then, if you plan on that becoming a problem, then maybe having to awkwardly not-quite-steer that lumbering space hulk is the price you pay for full preparedness.

Nice piece of fish
Jan 29, 2008

Ultra Carp
So what's the superior way to get materials for trading these days? Is it still SRV muddin' or are asteroids better?

One in the Bum
Apr 25, 2014

Hair Elf

Nice piece of fish posted:

So what's the superior way to get materials for trading these days? Is it still SRV muddin' or are asteroids better?

There are 3 types: raw (srv), manufactured (uss/ship salvage) and encoded (scans). You can only trade within each type so you have to do all 3 in order to make everything.

Nice piece of fish
Jan 29, 2008

Ultra Carp

Krycek posted:

There are 3 types: raw (srv), manufactured (uss/ship salvage) and encoded (scans). You can only trade within each type so you have to do all 3 in order to make everything.

Sure. So, SRV vastly preferrable to mining, then? For raw materials.

A 50S RAYGUN
Aug 22, 2011
i bought a dbs and while it's not as maneuverable as my eagle it is a lot of fun to fly

is there anything else with a flight profile like an eagle? vulture?

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Arcturas posted:

That's actually the correct way to decide what to fly.

Yeah the only thing where loadout matters a lot is combat. For basically anything else you should just go with what looks cool imo

Even things like jump range are meh. If you are doing deep space exploration you're committing yourself to a colossal time sink no matter what your jump range is so you should pick what you think looks best in screenshots/what you want to look at for the next 16 hours of gameplay

jubjub64
Feb 17, 2011

Nice piece of fish posted:

Sure. So, SRV vastly preferrable to mining, then? For raw materials.

If you go to some of the thargoid barnacles you can collect raw materials pretty quickly all in one location. Then you just logout then in and do it again: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/267849-Barnacles-Materials-Overview-or-Want-Materials-Will-Travel

Edit: You also want to scan the central/main barnacle thing with your srv. That way it will show up on your map as a point of interest every time you visit so you don't have to find it again.

jubjub64 fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Mar 13, 2018

Dwesa
Jul 19, 2016

Nice piece of fish posted:

Sure. So, SRV vastly preferrable to mining, then? For raw materials.
Or you can try places like this
https://canonn.science/codex/orrere-crashed-ship/
And for manufactured mats
https://canonn.science/codex/davs-hope/

Nice piece of fish
Jan 29, 2008

Ultra Carp
Wow, did not know about those. Great suggestions, thank you very much!

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

Pork Pro
I want you all to know that it warms my heart that, after years of cheerleading it, the DBX is universally considered the best explorer.

I mean, it always was...it just ~quantifiably~ is these days. :smug:

Nice piece of fish posted:

So what's the superior way to get materials for trading these days? Is it still SRV muddin' or are asteroids better?

There are Mat Traders in game now, which let you convert mats into other mats, but only within each type (raw, data, and manufactured). So you can turn arsenic into iron (both raw-type), but can't turn iron into datamined wake exceptions. So, essentially, just build up a stock of each type by whatever playstyle suits you best, and then swap them for what you need! No more grinding Pharmaceutical Isolators unless you just really want to.

edit: also the conversion rates get silly for rares (6:1 at best, 256:1 at worst?), so unless you have a stock of rares built up, you may need to grind a little bit. Some of the rares convert to each other at 3:1 or even 2:1, but it's rough stuff if you don't have 80 exquisite focus crystals or whatever. But, you are no longer gated by being required to find those rares, so you can avoid looking for a specific USS with a specific drop to finish your engineering and just grab random sprockets to convert.

Toxic Fart Syndrome fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Mar 13, 2018

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Did the first 3 systems on the road to riches last night and am close to $1m space bucks richer. Freaking sweet.

Going to do a few more tonight and upgrade scanners and such, and then probably hurl myself in the void :circlefap:

Blind Rasputin
Nov 25, 2002

Farewell, good Hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.

Beautiful space pig


This thing turns so loving slow

a peck of pickled peckers
Aug 3, 2014

I am your Redeemer! It is by my hand that you arise from the ashes of this world!

Blind Rasputin posted:

Beautiful space pig


This thing turns so loving slow

Gives me plenty of time to admire those...curves...those thicc luscious curves.

TyroneGoldstein
Mar 30, 2005

Nice piece of fish posted:

I'm with this guy, having flown both the DBX is superior for pure exploration. The Asp can do a lot of things, esp. smuggling, but for just going into the black the DBX is king.

I just got back from around 85ish KLY exploring over 11 months and I would take the DBX over the Asp in a heartbeat. The DBX's heat characteristics make it so very nice.

smug jeebus
Oct 26, 2008
Re: technology brokers, do I have to bring them all of the commodities at once or can I feed them a bit at a time (like you could with engineers)? I've been kicking around in V4 and I'd hate to have to swap it out now so I can do the Guardian modules.

Blind Rasputin
Nov 25, 2002

Farewell, good Hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.

Why are there constantly flashing blue lights all over the cutter dashboard. It’s driving me crazy.

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

Pork Pro

StuG Jeebus posted:

Re: technology brokers, do I have to bring them all of the commodities at once or can I feed them a bit at a time (like you could with engineers)? I've been kicking around in V4 and I'd hate to have to swap it out now so I can do the Guardian modules.

You only need enough for the conversion. So at least 6 of whatever you are converting, more depending on how far up the scale you go from start to finish.

smug jeebus
Oct 26, 2008

Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:

You only need enough for the conversion. So at least 6 of whatever you are converting, more depending on how far up the scale you go from start to finish.

That's the material trader, not the tech broker, but thanks anyway. Some of these commodities are mission reward only stuff I've never even seen, so I'm probably just gonna wait and see if they tone it down in a few months like they did with engineering commodities.

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

Pork Pro

StuG Jeebus posted:

That's the material trader, not the tech broker, but thanks anyway. Some of these commodities are mission reward only stuff I've never even seen, so I'm probably just gonna wait and see if they tone it down in a few months like they did with engineering commodities.

Oh oh...for the Guardian modules and whatnot? Yeah, I'd like to know, too, given the reqs on the high-end stuff.

Blind Rasputin
Nov 25, 2002

Farewell, good Hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.

You have to turn them in all at once.

EPIC fat guy vids
Feb 3, 2011

squeak... squeak... SQUEAK!
Lipstick Apathy

Blind Rasputin posted:

Beautiful space pig


This thing turns so loving slow

Goddamn that ship is nice. I'm a sellout for Gutamaya.

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Drake_263
Mar 31, 2010
How did somebody put it, way faster than it has any right to be, but once you boost you're committed to moving in that particular direction for ~8km? Imperial technology at its finest.

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