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https://twitter.com/MagnusCarlsen/status/971422253073207296

https://twitter.com/MagnusCarlsen/status/971776864846041088

Howdy podner, I'm here to talk you through the exciting* Chess Chandidates Tournament starting today/this evening to decide who will face Magnus Carlsen in the World Championships later this year!

This field is nuts, there are no gimmies this time around and you can make a case for everybody winning it.


THE WILD BUNCH


Levon Aronian

Cowboy Persona: Clint Eastwood in the Man With No Name films.
Rating: 2794 Number #4

Levon for a while was seen as the number two player. He then suffered a massive slump before slowly and surely rebuilding himself as one of the best players in the world. He could have qualified a few ways, but officially it was via the extremely exciting Chess World Cup last year. He is a brilliant attacker and a creative mind, but is also solid when he needs to be. He is at the sweet spot of age versus experience and has a plus score against the field. This time he is presumed to be favorite. The question is, can he handle the pressure?


Shakhriyar Mamedyarov

Cowboy Persona: Val Kilmer in Tombstone
(aka “Shak”)
Rating: 2809 Number #3

I love my chubby chess son. I’m in awe of the size of this lad, absolute unit. You wanna talk about wild do or die then we’re talking about Shak. He’s as capable of winning 3 in a row as he is losing 3 in a row. If Shak qualifies it’d be wild and amazing so, pray 4 shak. ~Serious Chess People~ wonder if he is a flat track bully and if he can repeat his success at the super-gm level.


Alexander Grischuk

Fey Valentine from “Cowboy Bebop”
(aka “Chucky”)
Rating: 2767 Number #12

Been in many candidates tournaments, one of the better Blitz players around. He actually kinda hates classical chess and maybe likes poker more? On his day can be brilliant, but doesn’t play that many classical tournaments. Qualified via FIDE’s extremely lame Grand Prix series that nobody watched. He gets some poo poo because if there are rapid playoffs he just draws to try and take it to tiebreakers. Which he did last time, but lost to Karjakin. A unique and exciting player, who would be a fascinating contender. People often consider that had he “fully committed himself” he would be one of the best ever.



THE “AMERICANS”

Fabiano Caruana

Jon Voight in “Midnight Cowboy”
Rating 2784 Number #8

One of the two Americans in the field (Nothing but facts ITT). For a while people were wondering if he was actually the best player in the world especially after he won a tournament with seven wins in a row!! Formly another attacking player he’s now developed into a very solid all around player known for his deep calculation. Has suffered a bit of a slump recently but that can all change with a few wins.


Wesley So

John Travolta in “Urban Cowboy”
(I really kinda ran out of goofs with this cowboy thing huh)
Rating 2799 Number #4

Like his counterpart Caruana, he was considered one of the best players in the world for a time but cooled off slightly. People describe him as very very solid and technically sound, if you make a mistake he will know exactly how to convert that into a win. With his extreme solidity comes the caveat that maybe he can’t manufacture something from nothing like some of the other players. He has recently changed coaches so maybe his slump will be over?


THE OUTSIDERS

Ding Liren

Alan Ladd as Shane
Rating 2769 Number #11

One of the rising stars of Chinese chess. In somewhat of an surprise he finished runner up in the World Cup to Levon. He often gets overshadowed by his compatriot Wei Yi but the Chinese are trying hard to develop their chess players and Ding Liren might just be for real. If he qualifies then the World Championship would be a Big Deal in Asia so that’s exciting.


Vladimir Kramnik

Clint Eastwood in Unforgiven
Rating 2800 Number #3

Another fan favorite. Former World Champ after he dethroned Kasaparov to become world champion before losing to Anand a few years later. Easily one of the greatest players and one of the most influential opening theoreticians of the last generation. Age is a factor, but with age comes experience and he ran Carlsen very close in a similar format in 2013. Do not count him out.


THE GROUP OF PLAYERS CONSISTING SOLELY OF SERJEY KARJAKIN WHO I COULDN’T THINK OF A FUNNY GROUP TO PUT IN

Serjey Karjakin

Robert Redford from “Butch cassidy and the sundance kid”
“The Minister of Defense”
Rating 2763 Number #13

Karjakin got here after facing and losing to Magnus in the 2016 World Championships. While the results show that he lost in tie breaks, the match was more exciting than the score suggests with a bunch of fascinating struggles. He is renowned for his amazing defensive abilities, as shown by surviving by the skin of his teeth against Magnus a few times in their World Title match. While the numbers look grim, he comes alive in these tournaments and may come from nowhere to book his rematch with Magnus.


HOW TO WATCH


Because you can’t copyright chess moves according to Russian courts (lmao) every man with a FIDE title and his dog will be streaming this (shout outs to that dude who streams while his dog sleeps visibly on the couch behind him).

Chess24 is streaming with Jan Gustafsson, Sopiko Guramishvili for the first two rounds and Super GM Peter Svidler from then on. Jan and Peter are the best team hands down with great chemistry, really funny, and both really good at chess. Svlider is a cricket loving, hearthstone streaming Soviet Trained super GM.
https://www.chess24.com

ChessBrahs will be streaming. GM Aman Hambleton, GM Eric Hansen and GM Yasser Seirawan. Yassar is a charismatic, funny dude and excellent at explaining technical positions for idiot dickheads like me.
https://www.chessbrah.tv/stream/

FIDE has an official stream but will cost money and probably suck. They will have live footage of the players but also probably some Russian or Eastern European GM who doesn’t speak good english. Or worse Nigel Short.

Round 1 Schedule:



MORE CONTENT

Jan Gustafsson on the Perpetual Chess podcast giving a preview: https://www.perpetualchesspod.com/new-blog/2018/3/5/episode-62-gm-jan-gustaffson-returns
More videos, including one behind a paywall:

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Daniel King's candidates preview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR-Ed9qZvjU&t=1s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLxniI-DAC0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8dngiiNv_0

Jan's (3 dollars behind pay wall, 3 and a half hours in length)

https://chess24.com/en/learn/advanced/video/candidates-2018-a-preview/intro-candidates-2018

I watched some of Jan's and it's really good and more in depth. But whether or not 3 dollars is worth it for you is up to you.

Thread for playing Chess is here

Five Thirty Eight Odds:





~*Never Forget*~




* There will be draws. Also I needed a chess pun name for my cowboy theme so don't think that draws are awful or anything like that.

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silvergoose posted:

Awesome, thanks for making this. Someone will post some games and analysis for those of us unable to spend the time watching I hope?

chess.com normally writes up the games, Daniel King will do videos on the games and i'll also post what ever else crops up if I remember.

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Chess24 is live, ChessBrah about to go live.

I'm sure the official fide one (lol) will start soon.

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I thought you had to pay for the FIDE stream, becaues they were selling a package last year that was FIDE Grand Prix + Candidates + World Championship

But FIDE are streaming for free I think? With live pictures.

https://worldchess.com/berlin/

edit: Sergey 30 min down already on Shak?

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Hand Knit posted:

Lev-Ding is a pretty cool position right now where I don't know exactly what's happening. I also really like Kramnik's position in his game against Grischuk even if the computer isn't giving him an edge yet.

Karjakin-Mamedyarov looks like the sort of game where there's too much tension so it has to resolve into a draw, whereas Caruana-So just looks dry as hell but maybe So can win in an endgame if he gets to push his c-pawn? (He probably loses his c-pawn well before then.)

Yeah I think Karjakin-Mamedyarov is going to run of out material to fight with and just end up a draw. Unless Shak drags it out and gets Sergey into time trouble.

I don't know anything about chess but that's the sharpest drawn position I've ever seen in Aronian-Liren.

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Computer is giving a slight advantage to Fabi in the boring game...

Wouldn't that be a thing if the boring Catalan ended up as the decisive game.

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Sub Rosa posted:

After a very long think Ding played Rd6, which seems a blunder

Levon let him off the hook and the queen might be loose now!

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Yeah, Jan explained how that because a human instinctively wants to protect his pieces (like, that was an old Russian Grand-master thing - 'step one are all my pieces protected?') he played Rb1 because it's then protected instead of Rb2 which "feels" wrong because it's just sitting there unprotected.

Also they could be repeating moves for a draw?

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:siren: This might not be a drill Fabiano Caruana might be going to win :siren:

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If Fabi wins i'm going to bed because I'm not staying up for 2 more hours of "Sergey Karjakin and the slightly worse end game"

"Harry Potter and the slightly worse end game" was the worst book in the series, imo.

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My stream freaked out and said that Fabi mated him over the board, I'm going to assume he resigned before that right?

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Sub Rosa posted:

Resigned according to Cressbrah stream

Yeah makes sense, the PGNs on chess24 have been dodgy all night I think.

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Hikaru trolling Jan in chat :discourse:

e:

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Day 1 Results:

A wild and fantastic day of chess to start out the tournament.

Kramnik 1 - 0 Grischuk
Aronian 1/2 - 1/2 Liren
Karjakin 0 - Mamedyarov 1
Caruana 1 - So 0

Chess.com write up with anotated games

Dan King wraps Caruana/So up on youtube.

Jan Gustafsson wraps up Caruana/So on youtube

PGNs

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Elyv posted:

Thread title owns, although I haven't really followed professional chess since like the early 2000s.

the thread title is *checks notes* inaccurate as of round one and i'm very okay with that.

Should have gone with "The Mateful Eight"

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Final bits of news:

* Surprise surprise the AGON website is a total poo poo show, as I thought you have to pay for the stream after round 3.

* Chess.com was trumping up how ChessBrahs got 10 x the amount the official stream did (obviously they're not mentioning their rival Chess24, the youtube video has around 200,000 views but Chess.com was counting concurrent views so the comparison is moot)

* The players have been making GBS threads on the event from an organisational standpoint. Playing room is "too loud" and the hotel sucks.

* And if you were there in person it apparently sucked too. Expensive, no food, no wifi.

Openings through 1 round:

* English Opening,
* Catalan
* King's Indian
* Ruy Lopez (Fianchetto)

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Loving Africa Chaps posted:

Less decisive this round with Sasha defeating So and kramnik rather poetically being unable to crack open 'his' opening in the city it's named after.

Keeps it nice and tight for the tournament. Unfortunately at work all this week so not going to be follow it live for the next 5 days.

I was going to post something pithy about Closed Ruy v Berlin Defense as if I know anything about it but then, lo and behold Berlin Wall Holds and the Closed Ruy does not.

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Day 2 Results:

So's terrible start continues and the rest of the games end in draws.

Grischuk 1 - So 0
Mamedyarov 1/2 - Aronian 1/2
Kramnik 1/2 - Karjakin 1/2
Ling 1/2 - Caruana 1/2

Chess.com write up with anotated games

Dan King wraps Grischuck/So.

Sopiko Guramishvili looks at yesterday's Aronian/Liren game for Chess24

Pepe Cuenca looks at yesterday's Aronian/Liren game for Chess24

ChessNetwork looks at yesterday's Caruana/So game. As Mentioned he explains things for beginners more which is great for dumbasses like me.

PGNs

Final bits of news:

* Surprise surprise the AGON website is a total poo poo show still.



* Chess.com mentions that they don't mention Chess24 because they mad that Chess24 had the nerve to beat them in court. Lmao loving morons.

* Speaking of the players making GBS threads on the event, the players can now poo poo at the event because they have running water in the toilets.

:siren: Yes the toilets having running water is news at this event :siren:

* It's apparently a bit quieter now though.

* They still only have one toilet.

* I can spell Mamedyarov without looking now. Mamedyarov. Mamedyarov.

Openings through round 2:

Seriously who cares about this stuff aside from me?

* English Opening,
* Catalan x 2
* King's Indian
* Ruy Lopez (Fianchetto), Ruy Lopez (Berlin), Ruy Lopez (Closed)
* Nimzo Indian

Standings:




Kramnik first on tiebreaker. I think that's because he beat Grischuck who is above Karjakin in the standings, who Mamedyarov beat.

Today/Tonight's Games


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So I guess the Sicilian is going to be a wild as it looks to the naked eye?

e:

Hand Knit posted:

1.e4 in every game. I wonder when the last time that happened. We have one Berlin (not the endgame line, though), one Italian, one Najdorf, and one Wesley So deciding how to answer 1...e5.

I love when we get the classical and the berlin at the same time. ~variety~

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"Very good apm"

"Is that a.... star craft thing?"

"Yes"


- An actual honest to god exchange I just heard on the chess24 stream between 2 Grandmasters.

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Oh god Levon

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Hand Knit posted:

Might be regretting some choices right now.

e: Like he's losing from such a fundemental "I did not understand the opening on a basic level" game.
Like when I play 1. e4

:negative:

I hate seeing chess dad getting beaten up like this :(

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28.Kh2 g=Q+ 29.Kxg1 f2+ 30.Kh1 Rh3+ 31.Kg2 f=Q# is the stuff of my worst nightmares

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Fabi might have missed it, the computers have swung back to even and now he has 4 minutes for 9 moves or whatever.

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Shak says gently caress your draw we're playing 4 min blitz with a 30 second increment.

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Oh god tick tock

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Petroff??

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Chucky sac'd a piece.

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What the gently caress even is this tournament


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nth6BkF3Bcg

50 minutes of breakdown(!)

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e: fell for dodgy pgns!

algebra testes fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Mar 15, 2018

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Results were 4 draws but Aronian/Grischuck was wild as hell.

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bigfoot again posted:

Things not going well for Levon :(

Peter and Jan are talking about Leisure Suit Larry vs Day of the Tentacle

:(

Peter said in a banter blitz he learned English playing Leisure Suit Larry.

Hand Knit posted:

Really good technical game by Mamedyarov to move into a tie for first.

e: And a really cute attempt by Kramnik at the swindle.

drat I had such a long week as soon as the games started I just fell asleep on the couch and woke up after it was all over.

I think we can say "Shak - Bad Beater" may no longer be a thing. He'd be such an exciting competitor for Magnus.

e: the worst part about the Aronian thing is if he takes the bishop with check yesterday he probably wins, and if he wins he's only half a point from the leaders even with a loss. It's kinda amazing how razor thin the margins are.

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In case you needed Peter Svidler talking about turn based games on the internet on your day off...

https://twitter.com/polborta/status/974935771517018112

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Levon is trying to create something, and has given up two pawns. Here is hoping.

Hand Knit posted:

Mamedyarov forces this quick draw with black. This means he's +2 for the first time through the RR, where he had more blacks than whites. He's in pretty good shape, I think. I really like the kind of chess he plays. It's the sort of fundamental chess that makes you believe you could be better yourself if you just believed in yourself a bit more.

Agreed.

Also I took the time to look out, of curiosity at his results against Carlsen. In classical in the last 5 years or so he's like -5 and 2 =.

Which is interesting that they haven't played much classical chess. But the caveats are that that some of that period might have been that period when Carlsen was just loving crushing fools, and also that Shak has improved greatly (the narrative was after seconding Karjakin he turned a corner) in the last few years.

edit: Literally, them playing today would be two completely different players.

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grah posted:

rip Lev Aronian, went for broke today with the white pieces against Caruana but couldn't convert on his attack.

Ugh RIP Lev. :(

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All I can figure is one of the following

a) He sees his pawn as a weakness and destined to fall regardless so doesn't fight for it.

b) he wanted simplification because either he thought he could draw/win the end game.

c) After Bg6 you have to move the rook again to avoid the discovered attack, so dare I say Karjakin sees that and probably then prunes it from his decision tree because it doesn't feel natural to move a piece twice when Bg6 is such an obvious move in response. You also lose the initiative after Rc2 Bg6 Rc6 Nxb2 I think because Black scoops up the pawn regardless and you've just shuffled your rook around.

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I will die if Ding and Levon play Jan's Thai Draw (tm)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=solm5PNby0g

Dan King video up

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Hand Knit posted:

Yeah he cut out the long middle and just lost immediately.

:vince:

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For the first time, dissent amongst the Youtube recappers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-c9_hLFsqY Svidler on the Kramnik loss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TDIaCJedJM King on the Fabi squeeze.


also,

https://twitter.com/agadmator/status/976211670245826560

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