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I haven't read the second book in a while but I don't remember Earth and Mars going to actual war in it, is that a show change or just a memory lapse? I remember them constantly being right on the edge but never flat out doing it.
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# ¿ May 5, 2018 13:45 |
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 18:00 |
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I was wondering if they might replace the Investigator with a different actor, but listening to the Expanse podcast they very strongly hinted it will be the correct dude. And it'll be this season.
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# ¿ May 10, 2018 05:03 |
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It'd be a bad move, but realities of TV production and all meant there was always a possibility. They obviously haven't said anything since they want the surprise.
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# ¿ May 10, 2018 07:09 |
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Platystemon posted:Will we actually get to see the dandelion sky or just the one? Well, there is an episode called Dandelion Sky so I would hope so.
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# ¿ May 13, 2018 03:18 |
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Podcast confirmed that Michio Pa's role is now in Drummer, and they've put aspects of Bull into both Drummer and Ashford. Ashford's a bigger part now because they got an actor they like so wanted it to be more than it is in the book.
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# ¿ May 24, 2018 15:01 |
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Bull and Pa were both fine but Drummer vs Ashford in this episode was great so focusing on just that is fine by me. Always more Drummer. She's three and a half whole characters now, how many can we feed her?
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# ¿ May 24, 2018 16:07 |
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Drummer always looking like she really wants to shoot everyone she's talking to who isn't Naomi or (sometimes) Fred is my favorite thing.
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# ¿ May 24, 2018 16:13 |
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They might find it interesting to start Drummer and Ashford in these spots and then reverse them later. Instead of the commander -> mutiny -> mutiny #2 thing just have a single mutiny with Ashford taking over to be crazyman.ATP_Power posted:Gonna be interested to see the show Drummer fanclub react to her being complicit in the biggest war crime in Human history if we get that far with the show and assuming she's going to take over Pa's role in the Free Navy plot too. Well, in a theoretical world where we get all nine books adapted they'd have to change that to have Drummer in her book seven role, it wouldn't make sense otherwise.
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# ¿ May 24, 2018 16:25 |
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It was interesting he said it's picked up for the future seasons. If I were a hyper billionaire who just bought a TV show that I genuinely enjoyed, I'd pay for it to get all the way to the end of the books out of my own enormous pockets.
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# ¿ May 27, 2018 04:04 |
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I've been rereading book three and forgot about the little detail that the cosmic microwave background coming from the ring is older than the big bang.
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# ¿ May 29, 2018 12:52 |
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Seems to me that they're implying the slow zone is a different universe. Maybe one so old all the matter has decayed and the protomolecule aliens set up their space subway station in the abandoned void.
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# ¿ May 29, 2018 17:13 |
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The ending was strange, either they froze on the solar system side of the ring or ring space has stars in it on the show. I hope they didn't do that and get rid of the creepiness.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2018 05:26 |
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uber_stoat posted:my read was that the ship started to slow down as soon as it touched the ring. hopefully beyond the ring will be the creepy starless void we're expecting. Hope so. I need my hell dimension.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2018 05:35 |
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Yeah that's a diminutive, all Russian names have those forms.
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2018 05:26 |
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I think the completely pitch black space is creepier and am sad it isn't that way, but I can imagine it not working well for TV.
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# ¿ Jun 8, 2018 08:20 |
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They have it installed between 3 and 4.
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# ¿ Jun 8, 2018 15:52 |
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I've been rereading and they only start talking about the Roci showing its age during the refit in book five, which is... eight years from the beginning of the story, I think? Maybe nine. It's explicitly five years when they first go to the slow zone and then there's the trucking to Ilus and back, which is like 18 months? Plus the time spent there and I dunno. Eight's in the ballpark.
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# ¿ Jun 8, 2018 16:14 |
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Lord Hydronium posted:They're not skipping the mutiny. Ah, that confirms that Bobbie is replacing one of the marines that goes after Holden/participates in the Behemoth fight. I figured that was how they'd keep her in the story.
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# ¿ Jun 9, 2018 05:27 |
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That guy gets turned into a smoothie so I doubt it. Maybe the squad commander, he had a name in the book.
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# ¿ Jun 9, 2018 07:52 |
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I do not at all care for the changes to the ring station. Way less cool but I'm guessing they were running out of cash.
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2018 14:03 |
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It was a lot bigger area he traversed, and the whole thing was organic rather than this one tiny little room of cheap LEDs. And there were the big robot spidercrabs that eat the marine and turn him into goo to fix the floor.
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2018 14:10 |
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As long as they don't have Drummer blow herself up I'm okay with whatever. Also I saw the authors confirm that Cibola Burn will be happening next season, they aren't skipping anything. They didn't say specifics about how it'll be handled or length but someone asked if they'd skip it and they were like "uh no nothing else makes sense if we did that" so.
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2018 08:48 |
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Yeah they'll probably mess with it, if it were just a season of CB then Avasarala and Bobbie are gone which seems tough to manage. On the podcast they also said it's ten episodes on Amazon, not 13.
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2018 13:38 |
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She does investigations on Mars for Avasarala in book 5, then is with the Roci crew most of book six. She isn't officially part of the crew until somewhere in the gap between six and seven. They could probably get away with having her join next season though, parallel her returning to the Marines with Naomi going to the Behemoth and both realizing they don't belong there anymore.
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2018 14:24 |
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If anything it'd take away from Amos spending the entire time threatening people. They could definitely move some book five material forward to have storylines happening both in the solar system and on Ilus. Seems more TV friendly.
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2018 14:41 |
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We wouldn't have seen that though, the scene was on the bridge and the bridge isn't in the drum.
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2018 14:54 |
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Book Ashford sucked and show Ashford is awesome so I trust they can make Marco and whatshisface on Ilus more interesting. I did like the idea of an antagonist who was just Amos if you're not in his tribe, they should lean a little harder on that for the show.
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# ¿ Jun 24, 2018 04:26 |
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I also have never seen anything about five seasons.
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2018 05:19 |
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I don't see how they make it work without the time jump. With the life extension drugs they could get away with fairly light old people makeup, some creases and graying hair would do.
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2018 12:40 |
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That's also missing the Transport Union, the characters in new positions, Earth's recovery, all the stuff that happens outside Laconia. Like I won't be surprised if they change it but it would require a rework of the entire storyline. A big part is it totally changes the dynamic. Laconia rolling in on the rest of humanity when they had just finally gotten their poo poo together and made things work is completely different than Laconia rolling in on a post-apocalyptic nightmarescape and saying hey we'll fix this up.
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2018 12:48 |
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Some stuff I found. "The fourth book, Cibola Burn, takes place pretty much all on the planet Ilus, or in orbit of that planet. Will that be the same deal here? Is that going to be the battleground and the space version of expanding west? [Book authors] Ty and Daniel often refer to the story of Ilus and Cibola Burn as kind of a classic Western in many ways. The book Cibola takes place entirely on Ilus. We are there for one complete novel. We are going to tell that story in season 4, sure, but we’re not leaving Earth and Mars and the Belt behind. They’re part of the story, and both of fans of the books and fans of the show are going to see something really interesting and new in season 4. What about some characters that don’t play a big role in the next book and what your plans may or may not be for them? Let’s start with Bobbie: Are you going to accelerate her becoming a crew-member on the Roci? Well, Bobbie is most definitely in season 4. I don’t want to give too many spoilers about what happens with her, but there are novellas that Ty and Daniel have written as well that we’ve built to the narrative. There are things that we can explore because, again, the idea that these new habitable worlds that have opened up through the Ring gate, that destabilizes Earth and the Belt as well as Mars. We’ve never been to Mars, really. We’ve never been to the planet Mars in the course of the series. I’ll leave it at that." So sounds like they're going to have the Bobbie novella where she's on Mars happening during season four, which would make sense because they can also fold in Avasarala's investigation at the same time and get that going while Ilus is happening.
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# ¿ Jun 28, 2018 14:54 |
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Ships are fully remote controllable so probably that.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2018 16:47 |
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There's no way to make Marco anything other than the worst, but if they get a good actor to sell the charisma he's supposed to have it'll work.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2018 05:17 |
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There are the exoskeleton welding rig things. What Bull used to walk around was one of those, I think.
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2018 08:25 |
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Bobbie's been in for twelve years when she's introduced, that's the only specific time attached to a rank I can think of. Holden was a lieutenant when he got thrown out? But I don't remember if they gave a length of service for him.
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2018 15:06 |
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My understanding was Miller turned the security systems off entirely. But it's not as if anybody really understands the tech. Also the Laconians loving with it probably isn't a great idea.
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2018 17:18 |
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I also don't know what the alternative is. The ring is there and the protomolecule alien structures survive for literally billions of years so they ain't flimsy. I don't think humans have anything that could actually destroy the gate, and if there's anything that would wake the station up and have it blow up Sol it'd be attacking the gate and failing.
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2018 18:07 |