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Roman Reigns is...
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the NEW People's Champion 2 1.77%
the voice of the voiceless, the new CM Punk 11 9.73%
Vince McMahon's nemesis who Vince definitely doesn't favor in any way 19 16.81%
also wondering why there was a cameraman in the women's lockerroom 47 41.59%
THE BIG DOG! 34 30.09%
Total: 113 votes
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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?



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Fastlane Results
  • AJ Styles defeated Kevin Owens, John Cena, Sami Zayn, Baron Corbin and Dolph Ziggler to retain the WWE Championship
  • Charlotte Flair defeated Ruby Riott to retain the Smackdown Women's Championship
  • The Usos vs The New Day went to a No Contest after a run-in and beatdown by The Bludgeon Brothers
  • Natalya and Carmella defeated Becky Lynch and Naomi
  • Randy Orton defeated Bobby Roode to win the United States Championship
  • Shinsuke Nakamura defeated Rusev
  • Breezango and Tye Dillinger defeated Chad Gable, Shelton Benjamin and Mojo Rawley on the Pre-Show.
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Raw Results
  • Kurt Angle opened the show to announce that Brock Lesnar was not there. Roman Reigns came out and complained that Brock was "Vince's boy" and that Roman was tired of dealing with a middle-man like Kurt and was going right to the source. Roman confronted Vince McMahon at the Gorilla Position, Vince had Dunn cut to commercial

  • Renee interviewed Vince McMahon after he and Roman had a meeting in his office. Vince insisted that Brock was nobody's boy but a man who had earned his luxuries, but he WOULD be at Raw next week and they had his word on that. He also announced that Roman had been suspended for a week.

  • Sasha and Bayley defeated Sonya Deville and Mandy Rose, though Bayley largely left Sasha to do the work. She did provide an assist for the win however, but walked out without celebrating, leaving Sasha upset in the ring.

  • Kid Rock is the Celebrity Inductee into the WWE Hall of Fame.

  • Miz tried to cause dissent between Seth Rollins and Finn Balor which largely worked even though the two did knock him out of the ring when he realized they still hated him. Rollins knocked out Balor afterwards, and a match between the two was announced for later tonight.

  • The Bar vs The Miztourage didn't happen, as the Miztourage jumped The Bar before the match. This brought out a lot of other teams as well, including Anderson and Gallows, The Revival, Slater and Rhyno and Apollo and Titus. Sheamus and Cesaro took the opportunity to get out of dodge.

  • Cena came out and admitted that he had nobody to blame for himself for his lack of a Wrestlemania match, as he'd blown opportunity after opportunity including at Fastlane the previous night. He said he would attend Wrestlemania as a fan, but after leaving came back where he said he couldn't resist calling out the Undertaker, and that he couldn't use the excuse of being old and washed up given the videos of working out he'd been posting on his wife's instragram. He called Taker an egomaniac, and said the ball was now in his court to answer his challenge.

  • The Bar were pissed at Angle backstage for letting the other tag teams jump them, but he reminded them they'd been asking for competition. They alluded to a possible "Superstar Shuffle" after Mania and asked to be traded to Smackdown to face the tag teams over there, but Kurt said they were going nowhere. Instead the other teams would compete in a tag-team battle royal, with the winner getting a shot at the tag titles at Wrestlemania.

  • Elias failed to complete an in-ring concert, still suffering the effects of the Symphony of Destruction match. Braun did a promo about he also doesn't have a Wrestlemania match, and he's going to go out and make one for himself.

  • Finn Balor defeated Seth Rollins in a lengthy match where he was on the back foot but was able to turn Seth's Superplex/Falcon Arrow combo into a roll-up pin. Seth was shocked and stormed out of the ring as a hurt but laughing Balor watched him go.

  • The official announcement of The Fabulous Moolah Battle Royal at Wrestlemania was made, with a package all about how wonderful and inspiring the Fabulous Moolah was, without (not surprisingly) going into any of the sleazy and dark stuff she was involved in. I'm unsure if the Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal is also still happening.

  • A very, very long recap of the Angle/Rousey vs HHH/Stephanie angle.

  • Asuka came to the ring to be interviewed about her confrontation with Charlotte at Fastlane. Before Asuka could answer, Alexa Bliss and Mickie James came down to gloat and say that Asuka had chosen Charlotte because she was scared of Alexa. Asuka replied she wanted to fight the best champion in WWE, reminded Alexa she had beat her before and challenged her to a fight right now. Alexa faked out that somebody else was coming down (Nia?) but nothing happened, then Mickie James jumped Asuka from behind and laid her out... and then they just went to commercial?

  • Asuka defeated Mickie James in an impromptu match, submitting Mickie who screamed and begged for Alexa's help before finally submitting. Alexa immediately stormed out, pissed off at Mickie who was left devastated in the ring.

  • As Asuka's music played, the camera cut to the commentators who discussed Ultimate Deletion and teased a preview later tonight.

  • Alexa confronted Nia backstage, as Nia really was supposed to be the one who jumped Asuka in the previous segment. Nia explained she had a match scheduled next she had to prepare for, and Alexa did some more of the emotionally manipulative stuff from last week before making Nia promise to have her back when she faces Asuka next week.

  • Nia destroyed a local jobber. Then on the titantron a hidden camera in the women's locker room (!) revealed Alexa and Mickie laughing about manipulating Nia. Charley eventually showed up (way too late) to let them know the camera and microphone that were apparently ENTIRELY VISIBLE TO THEM were on, and that everybody had seen and heard them. Nia left the ring and went storming up the ramp.

  • Alexa and Mickie took off in a panic and then Nia arrived.... at which point we discovered it wasn't a stationary camera, THERE WAS A CAMERAMAN THERE THE ENTIRE TIME!

  • A preview of Ultimate Deletion saw Matt Hardy narrating a video of the Hardy Compound, complete with shots of not only the Lake of Reincarnation and Vanguard 1, but also Reby Sky, King Maxel, Senor Benjamin and baby Wolfgang. Bray Wyatt appeared afterwards to insist that Matt Hardy has made a mistake inviting him into his home.

  • A horrified referee was informed by Kurt Angle he was being assigned to officiate the Ultimate Deletion. The referee asked what he'd done wrong to deserve this.

  • The Bar came out to watch the Tag Team Battle Royal, but then BRAAAUUNNNNNN showed up and demanded they ring the bell, then immediately eliminated Apollo Crews. The bar joined the commentators as the match continued, eventually ending up with only the Good Brothers and the Miztourage left. Gallows, Axel and Dallas were all eliminated by Braun, but Anderson was able to fight him for a time before Braun finally caught him, bellowed,"I'M GOING TO WRESTLEMANIA!" and tossed Anderson over the top rope into the other tag teams. The commentators argued whether Braun could legally be considered a "tag team".
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Smackdown Results
  • AJ Styles opened the show to talk about how unbelievable it was that he had come through Fastlane still the Champion, but then his entire run in WWE has been unbelievable. Shinsuke Nakamura came out too and the two got dueling chants. He explained Wrestlemania is where dreams come true, and his dream is to put his knee to AJ's face and become the Champion. Rusev and Aiden English came out.

  • AJ Styles vs Rusev ended in a DQ when Aiden English jumped AJ Styles. Shinsuke slowly stood up from his seat at ringside, took off his shirt, entered the ring and saved AJ, then walked out as AJ lay in the corner watching him go.

  • BIG E was interviewed backstage about the beatdown by the Bludgeon Brothers last week, and said that while Xavier and Kofi had been temporarily taken out he was still standing. Jimmy Uso stepped up and said that his brother had been laid out as well, but he was also still standing, and the two agreed to put any differences aside to take on the Bludgeon Brothers.

  • AJ met with Nakamura backstage and told him he didn't need Nakamura's help at Fastlane when he beat 5 other guys so not to feel cocky about helping him with Rusev and English. Nakamura grinned, said it looked like he did, and assured him he only helped him to make sure he'd make it to Wrestlemania to get beaten by Nakamura.

  • The Bludgeon Brothers defeated BIG E and Jimmy Uso in an exciting but short match. Jimmy and BIG E opened by attacking the Brothers on their way to the ring and coming at them with chairs, but the Brothers knocked them clear with their hammers. BIG E and Jimmy actually managed to get a lot of offense in the actual match but in the end Rowan was able to take out BIG E outside the ring and then he and Luke murderized Jimmy Uso for the pin.

  • Renee Young interviewed Sami Zayn backstage, where he said he didn't fail to become champion since if Shane hadn't hauled him off of a pinfall attempt on Owens he would be the Champion now. But he didn't blame Shane, he blamed Owens for causing Shane's obsession which was now affecting him, and he was furious that his own careful manipulations were ruined by the fallout from Owens and Shane's feud.

  • Charlotte came out to say she was excited at Asuka choosing her as her sacrificial victim at Wrestlemania, and had come to the ring to make sure she was there to meet her when Asuka made her first Smackdown appearance tonight. Asuka came out and Charlotte said she wants the opportunity and challenge of facing the best, so they can settle once and for all who is the best - and she will cement her legacy by ending Asuka's streak. Asuka replied that while Charlotte was a Queen, Asuka was the Empress, and she bowed to no one. As the two grinned at each other, Randy Orton's music played and the new US Champion came out while they were still in the ring.

  • Orton did a promo about how one of the only lists he cared about was the Grand Slam that he was now a member of having won the US Championship. Bobby Roode came down to tell him he was invoking his rematch clause at Wrestlemania where he would regain the US Title. Jinder Mahal showed up and told Orton to watch as Jinder defeated Roode just like he defeated Orton last week.

  • Jinder defeated Bobby Roode when, in a shocking turn of events, a Singh Brothers distracted Bobby and got knocked down, leaving Jinder an opening to hit the Khallas. After this fresh and exciting twist on the usual, Orton ran in and RKOed Jinder.

  • Renee interviewed Owens backstage about Sami's comments, and Owens complained that Sami should see that it is all Shane's fault. If Shane hadn't gotten involved, Sami would have never been in a position to betray Owens who would be the new WWE Champion. He went on a rant about how Shane is an egomaniac and shouldn't have been at ringside in the first place, and if Sami couldn't see that then Owens would teach him the lesson.

  • They played the Fabulous Moolah video again, once again singing the graces of a woman accused of pimping out female wrestlers and destroying multiple careers/lives.

  • Carmella defeated Naomi after getting kneed in the face, but then knocking the ropes out from under Naomi which stunned her long enough for Carmella to get the pin. It... was not good.

  • Shane came out, took some time to explain this entire Kevin/Sami storyline, then said that from next week Daniel Bryan will be running things himself because he is taking a leave of absence as Smackdown's Commissioner. His last announcement was that at Wrestlemania it would be Kevin Owens vs Sami Zayn. Kevin and Sami came out to talk poo poo to Shane, with Sami saying he was glad Shane was leaving.

  • Shane couldn't understand why they weren't happy at getting an opportunity to fight on the grandest stage of them all, and they thanked him sarcastically and then started beating on him. Shane managed to get the best of both of them (of course) until they managed to restrain him long enough to hit the Helluva Kick and Pop-up Powerbomb. Refs rushed to the ring and Kevin and Sami beat them up too, then pillmanized Shane's throat with a chair into the ring post.

  • Kevin Dunn was in fine form as usual:


  • They dragged Shane backstage bellowing,"WE'RE THE GOOD GUYS!" and,"WE'RE GONNA MISS YOU!" before giving him a Pop-Up Powerbomb onto an equipment case. He lay on the ground making,"OOOG! UGGG! OOOOOH" noises as the refs rushed to get the paramedics and apply a neckbrace.

Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 08:32 on Mar 14, 2018

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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Endless Mike posted:

This is very sexist. How do you know it wasn't a camerawoman in the women's locker room?

I use cameraman to describe the occupation, no gender was assumed but I apologize!

Even if it was a woman... why was there a camerawoman in the women's locker room? Why did Alexa and Mickie not notice this or the big microphone? I have many questions!

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Mel Mudkiper posted:

I also like that they are giving Roman Reigns, the most protected and pushed guy in the company, the "rebellious outsider" gimmick

Remember when Roman won some big match to get a title shot (might have even been the Royal Rumble?) and the show ended with HHH and Steph coming out with these pissed off,"Fucccck now what are we gonna do?" faces, like we were supposed to buy Roman as the plucky outsider who MANAGEMENT didn't want to succeed? :laugh:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

MassRafTer posted:

Saying something is awful and no one should watch it is a form of passive support, gotcha.

So you're saying my mother's review of my one-man play actually was her saying she loved me after all? :shobon:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

The obvious answer is that MRT got me a sweet Dacha in exchange for looking the other way :ussr:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Any chance we get Roman Reigns vs Larry Zbyszko in a steel cage match at Shea Stadium?

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Oh yeah, Takeover is going to absolutely loving rule.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Well Sasha was explicitly the heel at Elimination Chamber, but they seem to be pushing the idea that Bayley is the bad guy since then which... I don't know, I can only assume it's a fakeout and evil heel Boss Sasha is gonna strike soon.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

It's probably only going to get worse until they finally get rid of Kevin Dunn, unfortunately. Which probably won't happen till either he or Vince dies. And since Vince can't die.... :ohdear:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Smackdown results added to the OP. It's a shame Shane is dead now but maybe it's for the best.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Stunning direction once again by Kevin Dunn

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

SamuraiFoochs posted:

What I can't figure out is if they're actually doing Sami vs. Kevin (which I hope they do) or some bullshit with Shane.

I had assumed that when Shane announced it was Kevin vs Sami, they were going to come down to mock him as he left and then he would reveal he was stepping down as Commissioner so he could come back as a competitor and he would be the third man in the match.

The fact they just flat out beat him up and he even straight up said,"I did this because I thought you'd be happy?" makes it seem like the story is supposed to be that Shane was stepping down because he finally realized he was being biased and unfair (without ever admitting it) but now Daniel Bryan is going to be the authority figure who is pissed at Kevin and Sami and punishes them (and us!) by inserting Shane into the match.

Going back and rechecking, Shane said that he was stepping down effective immediately after tonight's show, so I guess Kevin and Sami's mindset was that he was no longer their Boss and therefore fair game for them to beat up without him being able to get revenge on them next week.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

It was! Show was pretty drat good until the Orton/Jinder match took it on a somewhat downward turn, but the ending was noteworthy if nothing else.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Gaz-L posted:

Oh, it'll be worse than that: Ziggler's gonna make the save for Shane.

...N..... no.... noooooooo :gonk:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

rare Magic card l00k posted:

where is the button for sending feral raccoons to him

Same button, they just come hidden in flowers.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Yeah, Shane made the announcement that Daniel Bryan would be there... next week! Then was surprised that the crowd booed instead of cheering, since, you know, they probably wanted to see Daniel Bryan live themselves.

Wazzu posted:

Before this turn, he'd been face his entire career.

I remember Edge saying on the E&C Podcast that Kevin Owens had sullied the beautiful unicorn that was Sami Zayn, which absolutely cracked me up.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Send Finn Balor to Smackdown and have him face Shinsuke, I say.

Of course, Raw would have to get Road Dogg as part of the trade.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Gonz posted:

Roid Day is upon us, ladies and gentlemen. *rips a phonebook in half at the Steiner Bros’ Shoney’s restaurant*

BRB, changing my 4th of July plans....

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Gonz posted:

Samson was a top territory talent, until some jackass booked him to lose his hair, and wouldn't you know it, it took down the whole territory with him.

Job got over with the loser gimmick, so God gave it to a bunch of middle class white dudes and got confused when it didn't work again.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

El Gallinero Gros posted:

Man, that was some superpush Moses had

Yeah, it's still kinda bizarre that he carried the company for so long but still wasn't allowed a Wrestlemania main event though.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

DeathChicken posted:

I have a friend decent in Japanese and she can barely understand Asuka's Japanese through her accent. She describes it as "Osaka meets crazy person", which seems very accurate

Yeah, I agree with your friend that it loving rules.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

rovert posted:

Do people here think that Shane appearing backstage essentially out of character during Roman's guerrilla position ramage and confronting Vince was a deliberate Montreal homage?

I had actually assumed it was going to play into his big Wrestlemania announcement on Smackdown, but then that turned out to be nothing but,"So Sami and Kevin will have a match, okay seeya" so now I haven't got a clue. Though I suppose you could also argue he was there to tell his dad about his self-imposed leave of absence for getting too personal with the wrestlers (which Vince would laugh at!)

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Those typos, holy poo poo. Considering how long it took to actually produce this video he couldn't have paid somebody $50 to proof read?

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Psychepath posted:

WWE lawyer: "Mr. Bravo, we'll pay you $20 more than your best offer so far

Dude made a cool :10bux: from that deal!

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

What a loving disaster, haha

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Oh my God, Rey's kid might actually have been Eddie's, but Eddie's fake daughter was actually Rey's fake daughter all along!?! :aaa:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Count me in as one of those pleasantly surprised but how good 205 Live has been. I'm rooting for Cedric to win the title, but I would certainly not be upset if Ali won it, he's pretty great.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

The solution is clear, Vince needs to activate his Bret Hart clone and bring him in to get Roman over.

Goddamn I would love to see in-his-prime Bret in WWE now.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Gaz-L posted:

So Ibushi just stopped getting any smarter after 5th grade?

His teachers told him he would regret this, as his good looks would eventually fade.

His teachers were wrong.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

I tend to watch only the back half of the show for the tournament matches. There's usually a handful of shows I miss live, though not last year because that was the best wrestling tournament in the history of the world and I couldn't tear myself away :allears:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

piss tape israel posted:

Does anyone have the scoop on which hour of RAW they will be airing The Ultimate Deletion?

I'm gonna miss the first hour of Raw at least, so probably all the best stuff will happen then :(

piss tape israel posted:

So the last hour? Asking because I'll be missing the first hour :D

:sigh::hf::(

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

FullMetalJackoff posted:

Sorry if this is the wrong thread for it, but it's something WWE related I made for another group and RTW month, thought you might enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P-YsD9vIfc

It's cool, I like it :)

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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

MassRafTer posted:

Offer not valid in Canada.

:drat:

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