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Chaotic Flame
May 31, 2009

So...

I'm not a Eureka fan but even I laughed at that first picture. I wasn't prepared. I do think it got stale though.

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Bliggers-
Dec 1, 2006
Back in business

Check out this Hot Take: The Vixen has sucked right from the start. "Safe" outfits in the first weeks that could easily have been in the bottom. lovely runways, boring caustic drama and yet keeps staying alive by lip syncs against people who completely choke. Time to go bitch.

Eureka and Aquaria were the 2 people who were actually funny at Snatch Game. The rest was boring to completely unbearable. Beyonce/Blue Ivy was too cringy to watch again.

Miz Cracker seems to be coming apart a bit which sucks. I want her to win at this point.

Poulpe posted:

I really did like when Eureka called out everyone else for only having fat jokes for her, only to have the remaining four queens make fat jokes.

C'mon queens you got better material than that

Yeah, no they don't.

Chaotic Flame
May 31, 2009

So...

Bliggers- posted:

Check out this Hot Take: The Vixen has sucked right from the start. "Safe" outfits in the first weeks that could easily have been in the bottom. lovely runways, boring caustic drama and yet keeps staying alive by lip syncs against people who completely choke. Time to go bitch.

Eureka and Aquaria were the 2 people who were actually funny at Snatch Game. The rest was boring to completely unbearable. Beyonce/Blue Ivy was too cringy to watch again.

Miz Cracker seems to be coming apart a bit which sucks. I want her to win at this point.


Yeah, no they don't.

Monet was funny

Tendai
Mar 16, 2007

"When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber."



Grimey Drawer

I was not expecting Aquaria to be funny.

That was a nice surprise.

Always handy when it's visible in the first like, ten seconds who's going to win the lip sync.

Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

"I think you'll find that when it comes to Sandwich Montoya, the sky is the limit!"

- Too Much Mustard


gandlethorpe posted:

So now that half the queens are gone, it's time to start thinking about Miss C. Is it still going to be a fan vote? Are they finally gonna split it into true Miss Congeniality and Miss Fan Favorite?

Going by traditional rules (most congenial, but based on what the viewers see), I'd say these are the biggest contenders:
  • Monique - for being the heart of season 10 (through her uplifting werkroom banter)
  • Asia - for motherliness, being helpful fish in the werkroom
  • Mayhem - for attempting to bring peace between queens, providing pep talks in Untucked
  • Blair - for general sweetness
  • Kameron - for muscles being a drama-free queen
  • Eureka - to make everyone's head explode as she wins both the crown and Miss C

Vanjie

No really, I wouldn't be surprised if she won.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

There are no such things as miracles.





Unless they have a real Miss C vote this year, Vanjie is almost definitely winning fan favourite. Or Cracker or Aquaria.

If they have Fan Favourite and then a real Miss C the queens vote on, it'll prob be Asia or Blair.

Pellisworth
Jun 20, 2005

I'm a horse of a different color


Re: Eureka, I think a lot of the dislike from viewers is coming from the huge amount of time she's been onscreen.

She was in five episodes of S9 and now she's been on seven episodes of s10.

She's also a favorite for talking heads and work-room edits, so we've seen a LOT of Eureka.

I agree she is a strong queen and has been doing really well in S10. However, I also find her boring and predictable and I've seen enough of her in this reality TV show

Like I said, I think Eureka relies too much on VOLUME. Her Snatch Game was fine.

Personally, I evaluate queens based on "would I pay money to go see their show." What Eureka has shown me is good, but I wouldn't pay money to see it, it's too boring and generic. Can you sing? Can you dance? Can you do comedy? Do you pull crazy shocking stunts?

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

There are no such things as miracles.





Eureka is def a queen I'd be happy to see on one of the Ru Girl tours but idk if I'd go out of my way to see her, unless she were like the only Ru Girl to come to Vancouver for Pride or something.

Bliggers-
Dec 1, 2006
Back in business

Chaotic Flame posted:

Monet was funny

For like 10 seconds.

Bliggers-
Dec 1, 2006
Back in business

Pellisworth posted:

Personally, I evaluate queens based on "would I pay money to go see their show." What Eureka has shown me is good, but I wouldn't pay money to see it, it's too boring and generic. Can you sing? Can you dance? Can you do comedy? Do you pull crazy shocking stunts?

So let's say Eureka is part of a ten queen Drag Race tour where every performer gets their 2 songs or 15 minutes on stage, there is a mini Snatch game thing in the middle, and a few group numbers.

There is a good chance Eureka steals the show or at the very least leaves you with a memorable performance.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

Because if I tell you, you'll tell your friends, your friends are callin' me on the horn all the time, I gotta show up at shopping centers for openings and sign autographs and shit like that and it makes my life a *hell*. Okay? A living hell.


Fan of Britches

curiousTerminal posted:

Dunno why everyone was so down on Asia's fish mask. Sure the painting on it wasn't perfect but it was creative as hell among all these little mermaids.

It was a really gutsy move but it was also just an off-the-shelf Halloween mask painted in splotchy dayglo colours that clashed with the rest of her outfit and she didn't apply any matching bodypaint to any of her visible skin so it was a really incomplete look. That cheap wig also wasn't doing her any favours.



If she'd cut the chin section off so she could emote with her mouth more, done a better job on the paint work and chosen a better wig it could have looked awesome. Mermaid FX makeup is pretty popular among amateur costumers so there's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of photos on google that show what's possible.


resting mitch face posted:

Asia's runway was something else. From the neck up, I liked the idea but... maybe she should have watched some Nina Bo'Nina videos on the youtube.

Yeah Nina does some really crazy stuff but she also makes sure that you can recognise her under the makeup, she has a really personalized aesthetic which she brings to everything she does and allows her to shine through which is actually really difficult when you're covering your entire face with paint and prosthetics. Asia got totally lost underneath that mask.

Phi Phi O'Hara is also really good at combining Halloween/cosplay looks with the drag aesthetic

Giga Pet giveaway
Jun 28, 2008

You're Not Welcome?


Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Holy crap, as soon as they did the "Who should go home?" segment I knew that Untucked was going to be wild and The Vixen sure didn't disappoint.

Ha, I had the opposite reaction and went "Aw no "


This feels like a million years ago now in a post-Vixen meltdown world and is very mild but I'm an anxious fish so it will keep me up at night if I don't clarify - Initially it cracked me up that she'd make that joke at all since it shocked me how out of nowhere it was/I feel it was delivered so casually and Kameron goes from curious to '...oh' in about .2 seconds. Second I absolutely feel you, I got a sharp pang of 'oh no honey don't internalize it no they DO like you and think you're sickening ' when she believed it because I adore Kameron.

Though the reasons I adore her are almost entirely lewks and her instagram where she hides all the charisma and comedy she hasn't shown on the show yet. I keep hoping she's gonna break out and show how funny she is on the show but it keeps not happening.

Also re: Vixen, I hate how she handled everything about this, her attacking Eureka on the runway absolutely sucked. When she finally said she wasn't ~angry just hurt that everyone had said her I felt kinda bad though because I was completely ready to write her off without considering that from her perspective she probably didn't hear 'this week I didn't like your work and I'm just answering a question' but 'lol gently caress your drag, v' when almost everyone said her name, like she clearly didn't know how to deal at all.

...and Eureka's 'please just gently caress me' read is the first time she's made me laugh. Does anyone else loathe her boy hair? That curl sets my teeth on edge for some reason.

Andrew_1985
Sep 18, 2007
Hay hay hay!

Giga Pet giveaway posted:

...and Eureka's 'please just gently caress me' read is the first time she's made me laugh. Does anyone else loathe her boy hair? That curl sets my teeth on edge for some reason.

It's because Eureka's boy hair is just like Laganja's. Yes gawd mawmaw okuurrrr.

Meanwhile that was a terrible Snatch Game, I feel they should just rest it from the show for a while because it's not been funny for a few seasons (AS2?).

Gonna miss Monique Hart. She & Cracker were my favourites this season. But, not knowing your words... and that cartwheel fail....

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

Because if I tell you, you'll tell your friends, your friends are callin' me on the horn all the time, I gotta show up at shopping centers for openings and sign autographs and shit like that and it makes my life a *hell*. Okay? A living hell.


Fan of Britches

Eureka's boy hair makes him look like a Tintin cosplayer

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

Please leave the room if you think this might offend you.


Grimey Drawer

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

It was a really gutsy move but it was also just an off-the-shelf Halloween mask painted in splotchy dayglo colours that clashed with the rest of her outfit and she didn't apply any matching bodypaint to any of her visible skin so it was a really incomplete look. That cheap wig also wasn't doing her any favours.



If she'd cut the chin section off so she could emote with her mouth more, done a better job on the paint work and chosen a better wig it could have looked awesome. Mermaid FX makeup is pretty popular among amateur costumers so there's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of photos on google that show what's possible.

Yeah I agree with that entirely. I really liked the idea, but the execution seemed a bit lackluster.

I was never on the Vixen train, but if I had been I would be all the way off it by now.

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Mouse Dresser
Sep 3, 2002

This isn't Middle Earth, Quentin. There aren't enough noble quests to go around.

Pinwiz11 posted:

Vanjie

No really, I wouldn't be surprised if she won.

Im voting for Miss Vanjie.

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

Please leave the room if you think this might offend you.


Grimey Drawer

I would honestly be surprised if Vanjie doesn't show back up this season. They're definitely going out of their way to keep her in the audience's mind, not that they needed to.

warez
Mar 13, 2003

HOLA FANTA DONT CHA WANNA?

Pellisworth posted:

we've seen a LOT of Eureka.

Is there any other way of seeing her?

jit bull transpile
Jan 6, 2012

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Gary’s Answer

Giga Pet giveaway posted:

This feels like a million years ago now in a post-Vixen meltdown world and is very mild but I'm an anxious fish so it will keep me up at night if I don't clarify - Initially it cracked me up that she'd make that joke at all since it shocked me how out of nowhere it was/I feel it was delivered so casually and Kameron goes from curious to '...oh' in about .2 seconds. Second I absolutely feel you, I got a sharp pang of 'oh no honey don't internalize it no they DO like you and think you're sickening ' when she believed it because I adore Kameron.

Though the reasons I adore her are almost entirely lewks and her instagram where she hides all the charisma and comedy she hasn't shown on the show yet. I keep hoping she's gonna break out and show how funny she is on the show but it keeps not happening.

Also re: Vixen, I hate how she handled everything about this, her attacking Eureka on the runway absolutely sucked. When she finally said she wasn't ~angry just hurt that everyone had said her I felt kinda bad though because I was completely ready to write her off without considering that from her perspective she probably didn't hear 'this week I didn't like your work and I'm just answering a question' but 'lol gently caress your drag, v' when almost everyone said her name, like she clearly didn't know how to deal at all.

...and Eureka's 'please just gently caress me' read is the first time she's made me laugh. Does anyone else loathe her boy hair? That curl sets my teeth on edge for some reason.

Something about this phrasing sets me on edge cuz she's publicly agender. Then again, she doesn't go out of her way to correct people who call her a boy so who knows what she uses irl.

beepsandboops
Jan 28, 2014


It's so perfect that the Vixen's whole mermaid shtick was basically a big homage to Azealia Banks ("heavy metal and reflective," the teal hair, Fantasea) considering how confrontational Azealia is too.

Tendai
Mar 16, 2007

"When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber."



Grimey Drawer

Vixen was just deeply loving unpleasant in this episode.

Re: Vanji, I usually don't really get into makeup tutorials etc but goddamn hers is golden just for the patter

Giga Pet giveaway
Jun 28, 2008

You're Not Welcome?


jit bull transpile posted:

Something about this phrasing sets me on edge cuz she's publicly agender. Then again, she doesn't go out of her way to correct people who call her a boy so who knows what she uses irl.

Pardon, I didn't know that, no shade.
What would be the correct phrasing for what I said? "Their out of drag hair"?

jit bull transpile
Jan 6, 2012

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Gary’s Answer

Giga Pet giveaway posted:

Pardon, I didn't know that, no shade.
What would be the correct phrasing for what I said? "Their out of drag hair"?

That's what I mean, I'm not sure. Eureka has shared her gender identity on social media but I don't think I've seen any mention of pronouns. Which makes it real tough, but I tend to default to "they" for anyone I'm unsure about, but that isn't necessarily the default in every trans community. I wasn't trying to call you out at all.

Language is hard

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

There are no such things as miracles.





I know Eureka was trans for a short while before deciding that being a woman wasn't for her. I think?? she identifies as non binary now but idk if she has any pronoun preferences like Jinkx does.

jit bull transpile
Jan 6, 2012

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Gary’s Answer

esperterra posted:

I know Eureka was trans for a short while before deciding that being a woman wasn't for her. I think?? she identifies as non binary now but idk if she has any pronoun preferences like Jinkx does.

Nonbinary still falls under the trans umbrella. It's a real big umbrella cuz there's not enough of us to really advocate or acculturate in tiny sub groups. But yeah she's not a trans woman, she says "agender" (which isn't quite nonbinary either, it's no gender at all.)

Tendai
Mar 16, 2007

"When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber."



Grimey Drawer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KuqjW0WtZg

Raja has strong opinions about mermaids

The Berzerker
Feb 24, 2006

treat me like a dog


Giga Pet giveaway posted:

Pardon, I didn't know that, no shade.
What would be the correct phrasing for what I said? "Their out of drag hair"?

probably the easiest would be "their actual hair" since everything else is wigs but I feel you

between Eureka's Tintin curl and Bendela's Jughead look maybe RPDR is slowing turning into very old comic books, can't wait til we get Asterix and Obilix or w/e their names were

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012



The Berzerker posted:

Asterix and Obelix

i mean we had the Kenya vs Latrice lipsynch....

jit bull transpile
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Gary’s Answer

The Berzerker posted:

probably the easiest would be "their actual hair" since everything else is wigs but I feel you

between Eureka's Tintin curl and Bendela's Jughead look maybe RPDR is slowing turning into very old comic books, can't wait til we get Asterix and Obilix or w/e their names were

How dare you besmirch the good name of Bendelas whoopie cap

The Berzerker
Feb 24, 2006

treat me like a dog



lmao I thought you made this up until I googled it

"It is also referred to as a Jughead hat, palookaville cap, devils cap, clubhouse hat, dink cap, rat cap, or Kingpin."

ahahahahaha palookaville cap omg

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.


The Berzerker posted:

lmao I thought you made this up until I googled it

"It is also referred to as a Jughead hat, palookaville cap, devils cap, clubhouse hat, dink cap, rat cap, or Kingpin."

ahahahahaha palookaville cap omg

Tag urself I'm 🐀ratcap🐀

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Jan 6, 2012

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Gary’s Answer

In case anyone is wondering, the only place to legally stream s4 is Google play and it costs 34 earth dollars.

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012



QuickbreathFinisher posted:

Tag urself I'm 🐀ratcap🐀

i am DINK

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

Because if I tell you, you'll tell your friends, your friends are callin' me on the horn all the time, I gotta show up at shopping centers for openings and sign autographs and shit like that and it makes my life a *hell*. Okay? A living hell.


Fan of Britches

Trig Discipline posted:

I would honestly be surprised if Vanjie doesn't show back up this season. They're definitely going out of their way to keep her in the audience's mind, not that they needed to.

I'm genuinely disappointed it hasn't already happened.

Poulpe
Nov 11, 2006
Canadian Santa Extraordinaire


Trig Discipline posted:

I would honestly be surprised if Vanjie doesn't show back up this season. They're definitely going out of their way to keep her in the audience's mind, not that they needed to.

They're going to bring her back for Season 11. They would have to be completely mental not to.

^burtle
Jul 17, 2001

God of Boomin'


Poulpe posted:

They're going to bring her back for Season 11. They would have to be completely mental not to.

I can't see her coming back at this point, I get the sense that it was just a running joke for the season and that it caught fire with the viewers has just been a great and convenient coincidence.


Have to agree with the people saying Eurekea isn't going to win but I don't think that means she hasn't deserved her challenge wins. She has done her thing in the space given and she has only looked that much better by people bombing hard. I don't think Vixen is totally wrong but she is really melting down and has no one to blame for choosing a 4 year old for Snatch Game. If Vixen was just using as motivation to perform better I'd be more willing to give her the benefit of the doubt, instead she just looks jealous as gently caress.

We're at the halfway so people are going to be exposed sooner rather than later.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

There are no such things as miracles.





I could see them Shangelaing her into Season 11 after the reception she got after the premiere. Like she exploded into a meme even before we found out she became a running joke during production, too.

I'd prefer if they wait for All Stars or Season 12, though. Three mainline seasons in a row with a ruturning queen from the year before is a bit much.

Poulpe
Nov 11, 2006
Canadian Santa Extraordinaire


esperterra posted:

I could see them Shangelaing her into Season 11 after the reception she got after the premiere. Like she exploded into a meme even before we found out she became a running joke during production, too.

I'd prefer if they wait for All Stars or Season 12, though. Three mainline seasons in a row with a ruturning queen from the year before is a bit much.

Agree, but Vangie was around for literally 1 episode. I feel like Cucu and Eureka were a bit more egregious, whereas Vangie would more or less feel new. We haven't gotten a chance to see anything out of her.

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012



just bring her back for every first episode so she can go home all over again

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esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

There are no such things as miracles.





alf_pogs posted:

just bring her back for every first episode so she can go home all over again

except two episodes, and Tammie Brown instead of Vanessa

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