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angerbeet
Mar 23, 2004


plob




https://twitter.com/Jeopardy/status/988477603286663169

Guess we're getting a game show challenge?

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SuperSpiff
Apr 4, 2007
Mentally retardation is such a strong word.

King of Foolians posted:

I feel like this show is suffering in the same way Project Runway is where Ru/the producers are so focused on keeping to the same format that made it popular that they don't realize how stale and unoriginal it's become. It's still good tv but they've raised the bar so high that I expect so much more.

They could take a note from Drag Race: Thailand and have a two episode-long commercial.

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.


I am never going to get the Thai pronunciation of Line Mobile-ka out of my head

Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

30% Iron Chef


SuperSpiff posted:

They could take a note from Drag Race: Thailand and have a two episode-long commercial.

Like when they did Absolut commercials in season 2? It's at least charmingly self-serving when they're advertising Ru's products, but Jeffrey Moran showing up was never a great sign.

King of Foolians
Mar 16, 2006
Long live the King!

Personally I miss when Mike Ruiz would show up for photography stuff. Did he and Ru have a falling out or does this have to do with the unspoken "No Gay Men Allowed" rule for guest judges?

jit bull transpile
Jan 6, 2012

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Gary’s Answer

King of Foolians posted:

Personally I miss when Mike Ruiz would show up for photography stuff. Did he and Ru have a falling out or does this have to do with the unspoken "No Gay Men Allowed" rule for guest judges?

I was making a joke about rus stance on trans queens with that post btw, I don't think there's actually a rule about gay judges, just a craven profit motive in having mainstream celebs instead

Chaotic Flame
May 31, 2009

So...

King of Foolians posted:

Personally I miss when Mike Ruiz would show up for photography stuff. Did he and Ru have a falling out or does this have to do with the unspoken "No Gay Men Allowed" rule for guest judges?

Isn't Jeffery Bowyer-Chapman gay? Am I making that up? DON'T TAKE HIM AWAY FROM ME!!

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

There are no such things as miracles.





There's been a ton of gay judges. The unspoken rule is other queens.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

There are no such things as miracles.





And we've had a trans person judge, haven't we? I can't remember if Candis Cayne would also judge back in the day when she coached a bunch of challenges.

jit bull transpile
Jan 6, 2012

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Gary’s Answer

esperterra posted:

And we've had a trans person judge, haven't we? I can't remember if Candis Cayne would also judge back in the day when she coached a bunch of challenges.

We're talking about the last couple of seasons tho. Way more mainstream celebs these days. In older seasons they've had Chaz Bono and Fortune Feimster judge too.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

There are no such things as miracles.





True. Though back then they'd try for as mainstream as they could get on the budget they had, but usually they'd at least try to get mainstream-but-still-gay-culture type people, like an Elvira or Kathy Griffin.

The judges have been p lame lately but I always expected it to go this way when the show started to get more eyes on it and more money behind it.

And yeah I nearly forgot Chaz! He used to be on all the time.

jit bull transpile
Jan 6, 2012

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Gary’s Answer

esperterra posted:

True. Though back then they'd try for as mainstream as they could get on the budget they had, but usually they'd at least try to get mainstream-but-still-gay-culture type people, like an Elvira or Kathy Griffin.

The judges have been p lame lately but I always expected it to go this way when the show started to get more eyes on it and more money behind it.

And yeah I nearly forgot Chaz! He used to be on all the time.

I think you missed part of the convo because this is exactly what we're lamenting. That the show is shifting to primarily being focused on the straight audience rather than just being somewhat accessible to them. It sucks that drag has to be made safe to acquire a bigger platform.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

There are no such things as miracles.





Yeah I just saw the 'no gay or trans judges' thing tbf. I agree 100% about the mainstreaming in general of the show, though I take more issue with the structure of the competition itself/lack of gay af mini challenges and pit crew more than who's on the judging panel. They've always had stinkers there.

big dyke energy
Jul 29, 2006

Football? Yaaaay


Episode preview is up!

This loving mini challenge, what the hell.

This challenge is going to be really great though.

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012



Magikarpal Tunnel posted:

Episode preview is up!

This loving mini challenge, what the hell.

This challenge is going to be really great though.


maybe next mini-challenge can be a god drat egg and spoon race

two judges that might be moderately entertaining! kumail nanjiani and emily gordon. love 'em. also loving all the high-energy stuff the queens are bringing this season. cracker sounds like she's due for a win this episode.

GOD drat COULD MONIQUE BE ANYMORE LOVABLE

Aphra Bane
Oct 3, 2013



yesssss that outro Monique needs a win already

Whalley
Mar 5, 2004

Drinking shows a real commitment to becoming a cooler person!


I'm only halfway through Drag Race Thailand now and holy poo poo the quality level on this is insane. I'm kinda worried that the next episode of US Drag Race is going to seem super low effort compared.

I can't imagine the tantrums that would happen in US Drag Race if they recreated that red carpet photo shoot with ANTM winners and secret scene stealing.

Also Panpan for president and new-Ru and forever boyfriend. I'm in love.

seizure later
Apr 18, 2007


in further "Tyra's a complete bitch" news, she made thinly veiled threats on Facebook saying "Fair warning: DO NOT attend RuPauls DragCon on May 12, 2018. Dont say I didnt warn you."

this is of course after she'd already posted pictures earlier in the month of DragCon being blown up

Cpt. Mahatma Gandhi
Mar 26, 2005



seizure later posted:

in further "Tyra's a complete bitch" news, she made thinly veiled threats on Facebook saying "Fair warning: DO NOT attend RuPauls DragCon on May 12, 2018. Dont say I didnt warn you."

this is of course after she'd already posted pictures earlier in the month of DragCon being blown up

IANAL but isn't doing this kinda thing literally a crime

Ubiquitous_
Nov 20, 2013


seizure later posted:

in further "Tyra's a complete bitch" news, she made thinly veiled threats on Facebook saying "Fair warning: DO NOT attend RuPauls DragCon on May 12, 2018. Dont say I didnt warn you."

this is of course after she'd already posted pictures earlier in the month of DragCon being blown up
It sounds like Tyra wants to go back to jail. Yikes.

warez
Mar 13, 2003

HOLA FANTA DONT CHA WANNA?

King of Foolians posted:

I feel like this show is suffering in the same way Project Runway is where Ru/the producers are so focused on keeping to the same format that made it popular that they don't realize how stale and unoriginal it's become. It's still good tv but they've raised the bar so high that I expect so much more.

I feel like the biggest issue with Project Runway was less sticking too rigidly to the format and more that it slowly drifted away from what originally made it interesting. It shifted from a show about design ("design the postal uniform of the future, what would that look like?" "design a costume for an ice dancer, what does an outfit for an athlete require?" "can you make an outfit that would work for a drag queen? what details/silhouette/proportions does she need?") to a show about making normal, pretty gowns/red carpet dresses/RTW looks. I feel like this became very, very apparent when it switched over to Lifetime/when Anya won, but maybe things have gotten better since I've stopped watching. In that sense I think Drag Race suffers from some similar issues, especially as the last few seasons seem to have become more reliant on scripted acting challenges instead of just letting the queens be creative.

Cpt. Mahatma Gandhi posted:

IANAL but isn't doing this kinda thing literally a crime

Yeah. She's not a very clever person.

warez fucked around with this message at Apr 25, 2018 around 02:13

jit bull transpile
Jan 6, 2012

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Gary’s Answer

warez posted:

I feel like the biggest issue with Project Runway was less sticking too rigidly to the format and more that it slowly drifted away from what originally made it interesting. It shifted from a show about design ("design the postal uniform of the future, what would that look like?" "design a costume for an ice dancer, what does an outfit for an athlete require?" "can you make an outfit that would work for a drag queen? what details/silhouette/proportions does she need?") to a show about making normal, pretty gowns/red carpet dresses/RTW looks. I feel like this became very, very apparent when it switched over to Lifetime/when Anya won, but maybe things have gotten better since I've stopped watching. In that sense I think Drag Race suffers from some similar issues, especially as the last few seasons seem to have become more reliant on scripted acting challenges instead of just letting the queens be creative.


Yeah. She's not a very clever person.

I agree. I'm rewatching s5 (and untucked s5 for the first time) and there's way more space for the queens to be off the cuff. I forgot thdt Roxxxy is loving hilarious when she gets to wing it. ~*sequins dress*~

More mini challenges like the drag dolls (that led to lil pound cake) or the "drag up camo poo poo fast" challenge would be amazing, and there were way more challenges that focused on designing cohesive looks and characters from scratch.

Deathlove
Feb 20, 2003

It's going to happen this year; it's what we're going to do. We're going to win the NL Central.

Pillbug

If the Boulet Brothers walked into The Fly machine, Raven would come out. This is not a read.

also real good timing for that Shania Twain "I'd've voted for Trump" thing.

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012



tonight i am jealous!

my partner is off for friend times to see Adore Delano in Adelaide, while i will likely eat bbq, get stoned and gush about Monique Heart's expressive eyebrows while watching RPDR on the couch.

Noise Machine
Dec 3, 2005

Today is a good day to save.



Fun Shoe

That's definitely the most bulge I've seen on TV in a long time during that mini challenge.

Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

"I think you'll find that when it comes to Sandwich Montoya, the sky is the limit!"

- Too Much Mustard


Glitter and Jesus

Noise Machine
Dec 3, 2005

Today is a good day to save.



Fun Shoe

urgh this panel is PAINFUL good lord

Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

"I think you'll find that when it comes to Sandwich Montoya, the sky is the limit!"

- Too Much Mustard


Blair...

Ubiquitous_
Nov 20, 2013


I was very critical of Blair due to the DUI thing, but tonight... gently caress. That hit me hard. As someone whos experienced something similar, I was in tears.

Pellisworth
Jun 20, 2005

I'm a horse of a different color


Ubiquitous_ posted:

I was very critical of Blair due to the DUI thing, but tonight... gently caress. That hit me hard. As someone whos experienced something similar, I was in tears.

Monique has a pretty interesting back story in Untucked, too

the escape goat
Apr 16, 2008

What a week it's been.
So much to talk about.
And so many things we can't talk about.

Pillbug

"Those itty-bitty Dennis the Menace wigs"
I'm gleefully astonished at what a brutal read that was from Asia.

big dyke energy
Jul 29, 2006

Football? Yaaaay


God I loving love the way Asia and Monique do their makeup. Gorgeous.

warez
Mar 13, 2003

HOLA FANTA DONT CHA WANNA?

the escape goat posted:

"Those itty-bitty Dennis the Menace wigs"
I'm gleefully astonished at what a brutal read that was from Asia.

Shes getting some great digs in as the season goes on. I want to see her make it to the end.

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Jan 6, 2012

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Gary’s Answer

That was a good challenge. It was actually something new and different and it ended up being really fun.

gently caress aquaria making jokes yet again when the black queens talk religion. She's a privileged new york kid who is getting away with way too much boy body.

God bless the vixen vowing to kill Blairs rapist. I'd watch a reality show where the vixen just went Chicago on sex creeps in full drag.

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012



jit bull transpile posted:

That was a good challenge. It was actually something new and different and it ended up being really fun.

gently caress aquaria making jokes yet again when the black queens talk religion. She's a privileged new york kid who is getting away with way too much boy body.

God bless the vixen vowing to kill Blairs rapist. I'd watch a reality show where the vixen just went Chicago on sex creeps in full drag.

The Vixen is a very very good 2018 replacement for Chris Hanson

Pigasus
Dec 26, 2009

Too fat to wear pink.



Oh my god Blair St Clair! Monet! This season's queens are bringing it--heart, drama, cattiness, memes, EVERYTHING

The challenge was actually fantastic. It was smart to include an "information" challenge because it's really engaging for the audience back home too.

I love these queens. Vixen was perfect when she responded to Blair.

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008



Monique is physically incapable of opening her mouth without giving me life. Even when bearing her soul, she does it in the most entertaining way. I feel like the last queen to really have that factor was Alyssa. Some of the antics in S5 did drag down Alyssa's likability, but Monique is sweet to everyone. The only issue, then, is her uncanny ability to get robbed constantly.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

There are no such things as miracles.





Oh man, Blair. A lot of emotional moments on this show feel really contrived or like producer meddling, but Blair's story tonight was just heartbreaking-- and Monique's in Untucked, as well. I'm so sad to see her go, but I don't think she should have made it much further. I wanted her to at least hit Snatch Game, if only b/c I would probably live for whichever oldschool Hollywood broad she would play. I think she's a fierce queen, though, and now she's taking steps to move past what happened to her I'm sure she'll grow into a glamazon bitch ready for an All Stars season.

Also I might be biased but I think that lipsync was honestly pretty close. Blair was lower energy and imo Vixen definitely won it, but girl was giving me some emotion there and she was doing what she does well. But that song is a bop and what she was doing didn't mesh as well as Vixen's.

Challenge was really fun and good, I'm glad they've been bringing back more improv challenges on top of the sewing challenges, it's a big part of what makes this season feel like oldschool Drag Race for me. The dumb-rear end mini challenges are also A+++. I honestly would not mind if the DragCon Panel challenge turned into one of the returning ones.

I love all of these queens and I'll hate to see anyone go home at this point. Even Aquaria has wormed her way into my heart with how incredibly awkward she is, but she still isn't giving me as much to love as the other girls. Cracker's honestly down there with her. They're both very in their heads idk. I'm gunning for Monique, Kameron, Asia and tbqh stanning for Eureka pretty hard r/n. She can be obnoxious as gently caress but she is fierce and very good at these challenges and always at least looks good on the runway, if not sometimes great. And tbh I kind of live for how loud she is.

I'm falling in love w/ Kameron he is loving adorable.

Wonder if the library will also be open next week.

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008



Eureka has been pretty tolerable, dare I say likable, the past two episodes. She's even had a few adorable interactions with other queens. Maybe burying the hatchet with Vixen, then getting validated with a win was the turning point.

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esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

There are no such things as miracles.





Eureka is great when she isn't purposefully being a bitch imho. I liked her in season 9 as well.

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