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esperterra posted:Whenever people complain about a queen doing well not being versatile enough on the runway or sticking to the same comedy schtick/jokes I just say This 1000x. Eureka already showed more versatility than Bianca just by being able to do a good man drag for that mini challenge. If you're resorting to linking the reddit hate hive for your arguments you are teetering off the rails. There's nothing wrong with a queen finding what she's best at and then focusing on polishing that. In Eureka's case that's mostly about her signature look and her comedy. Having lots of looks and makeup styles isn't the only way a queen can be versatile, because drag is not a fashion show, it's a performing art.
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Ru lives for a queen who knows what they're good at and sticks to it/encorporates that into everything they do. Eureka has done this all season except for the Breastworld challenge, really. I can 100000% understand not liking her personality, she can be a shady bitch and is super obnoxious so it probably makes it worse for a lot of viewers. Plus she's a returning queen. But she is slaying so lol if you think the judges are going thaaat much easier on her. If anything they may be going a bit harder on her at times. Queens who are not versatile go far or win all the time, because they know themselves and their brand and werk that poo poo. Also imho Eureka slayed both the lip syncs she had to do this season. She sold the songs and her own desperation to me and I'm glad she didn't sashay on either. e: I'm at a point where I'd be happy with any of the remaining queens, barring maybe Cracker, winning the whole thing so this is going to be a rough season going forward. At least the scores are all more evenly spread this time, if they do the same lip sync tournament rules as last season ... e2: I really want Kameron or Asia to snatch it tho it'll probably be Asia, Ru is living for her like i haven't seen her live for someone since like Tyra practically. esperterra fucked around with this message at 20:50 on May 25, 2018 |
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May 25, 2018 20:46
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My main thing is I want Asia to win because of her emotional maturity and because she's the only black queen left  IDENTITY POLITICS ALERT!!!I'm not fond of Aquaria but anybody could win at this point and it wouldn't be a shock.
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May 25, 2018 20:56
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Asia is amazing and lbr it's loving time for a pageant queen to win already. I wanted Trinity to snatch it for them last season but lol sadly we did not get the Shea vs Trinity lip sync I was expecting, which imo could have gone either way. People always talk about how a big girl hasn't won yet and I really hope a big girl does, it's a drat shame it wasn't Latrice when she was on imho, but ffs how many incredible pageant queens have we had and yet one hasn't snatched the biggest crown of them all!! e: if Eureka wins we get both tho  hmmmme2: oh ALSO if there's any challenge where not bringing versatility is a boon rather than a bad thing it's the makeover challenge, which is always about making up another person to the style of your SIGNATURE drag, and that look is Eureka's signature so ??? esperterra fucked around with this message at 21:18 on May 25, 2018 |
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May 25, 2018 21:00
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I don't want to witness the nuclear meltdown on reddit if, in a season with 5 black queens, Asia doesn't get top 3.
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May 25, 2018 21:22
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I feel like there's no way Asia isn't getting top 3 or winning this thing, tbh. Barring her completely bombing in a lip sync either leading up to or at the finale, Ru is crowning the bitch. And I'm here for it tbh
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May 25, 2018 21:27
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warez posted:I don't want to witness the nuclear meltdown on reddit if, in a season with 5 black queens, Asia doesn't get top 3. Eureka winning would be a reddit apocalypse and I'm here for it
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May 25, 2018 21:28
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lmao the main and all the satellite subs hate Eureka sooo much, it's hilarious. Even the satellite for 'serious' discussion seems to think her still being around is b/c the producers are somehow afraid of being sued?? when Eureka most definitely signed all sorts of poo poo before season 9 that would keep her from doing so if she got hurt on set.
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May 25, 2018 21:30
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It'll be gross if they win, but just lol if you're taking much time on the internet to articulate grief about it.
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esperterra posted:lmao the main and all the satellite subs hate Eureka sooo much, it's hilarious. Even the satellite for 'serious' discussion seems to think her still being around is b/c the producers are somehow afraid of being sued?? when Eureka most definitely signed all sorts of poo poo before season 9 that would keep her from doing so if she got hurt on set. I have lurked the satellite subs more than is probably healthy, and I can say for sure that they are every bit as delusional as the main sub. This thread is one of the few places I still enjoy discussing the show online because the energy tends to be pretty light/fun and people generally respect each other's opinions (instead of endless race wank/low-key hatred toward cis female fans).
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I'm p much in the same boat, girl. Though I've been looking at the main sub less and less now, usually just for the weekly discussion post or during DragCon.
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esperterra posted:lmao the main and all the satellite subs hate Eureka sooo much, it's hilarious. Even the satellite for 'serious' discussion seems to think her still being around is b/c the producers are somehow afraid of being sued?? when Eureka most definitely signed all sorts of poo poo before season 9 that would keep her from doing so if she got hurt on set. Lol. I think it's hilarious people think she's getting some sort of special glory edit from the producers too because she's looked like a big whiny obnoxious person a lot in the werk room and untucked set. It's just that she keeps doing well at challenges too.
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Yeah, it's way more villain edit than returning hero edit like people keep whining about. Girl has been a mess.
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esperterra posted:Whenever people complain about a queen doing well not being versatile enough on the runway or sticking to the same comedy schtick/jokes I just say I think Bianca is heads and shoulders above Eureka in cleverness and capability to produce original humor, even if you find the "mean" theming one note. I also feel like Bianca absolutely smashed through the majority of the challenges and the reason she DIDN'T get more wins was her samey drag. It's hard to justify putting someone in the bottom when they literally never falter. jit bull transpile posted:This 1000x. Eureka already showed more versatility than Bianca just by being able to do a good man drag for that mini challenge. If you're resorting to linking the reddit hate hive for your arguments you are teetering off the rails. Ohhh my god you don't have to agree with me but agreeing with a post that literally thousands of other people also agree with isn't "teetering off of" anything  There's also a bunch of posters on here that agree, if you go back and read previous weeks. I appreciate that you really like her but I think that you're ignoring very poignant community criticisms of her and the pretty clearly visible favorable treatment she's receiving from the producers because you do. It's okay to like her and also say "yeah that's happening." She has done very very well at several challenges this season, but I find her grating and find it even more grating that she doesn't see critiques for obvious missteps. Lots and lots of people do not like her and are frustrated that her flaws are going overlooked. This prevalent counter-voice where people are yelling "You just don't like her because she's fat and you're HATERS" kills discourse in it's tracks. It was like how in the Cher challenge she gave a low energy hesitant performance and the entirety of her critiques were "she was afraid but wow she got through it so brave!" "I liked it." and jokes. Like- we're.. just not going to talk about this? Alright. They even cut to Ru loving her performance the moment she walks out! And she had several free jokes written into her part that the judges all LOOVED! Good job Eureka, you managed to wiggle your butt, you're safe. angerbeet posted:Eureka winning would be a reddit apocalypse and I'm here for it Tbh I wouldn't be at all shocked if she did. They love them controversial winners.
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When Eureka and Eufreaka hit the stage, I thought Eureka just brought Miz Cracker instead. Also I could not recognize Miz Cracker in the mini-challenge. Legit who the gently caress is that moment. Watching Kameron and her partner interact was so Two Straight Dude Friends. If they saw a movie together they'd leave an empty seat in-between them. caligulamprey fucked around with this message at 00:31 on May 26, 2018 |
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May 26, 2018 00:28
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I saw Trixie Mattel’s show last night and it was amazing  As for the elimination, it wasn’t surprising but I agree that it should’ve been Aquaria in the bottom. I think the final three will be Asia, Aquaria, and Eureka. I hope Asia wins.
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Speed Crazy posted:Lizzo might be my favorite judge to ever grace the show. Hottest take on the last page. She's generally fantastic so i knew she would shine, but you could tell she had so much fun. Plus she was apparently guest judging for two with that turtleneck zombie on the other end of the table. Was that kid ok? Or is he just like that
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warez posted:I have lurked the satellite subs more than is probably healthy, and I can say for sure that they are every bit as delusional as the main sub. This thread is one of the few places I still enjoy discussing the show online because the energy tends to be pretty light/fun and people generally respect each other's opinions (instead of endless race wank/low-key hatred toward cis female fans). The spoiler sub is pretty OK if you stick to the megathreads.
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jit bull transpile posted:I love lizzo so much I really liked her too  and that was a really good lipsync song. Plus she DRESSED UP.Untucked this week is a delight. Eureka bitching about everyone not getting how 90s her look was annoying though, but then again, Cracker DID start going in on her look as soon as she was out of the room. But also I did think her dude was pretty rough looking, though the family resemblance was strong enough to save her, plus their dresses were well-done. But I'm not jumping in on the Eureka making GBS threads. I like her well enough but she can bereally grating to watch at times. big dyke energy fucked around with this message at 02:38 on May 26, 2018 |
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QuickbreathFinisher posted:Hottest take on the last page. She's generally fantastic so i knew she would shine, but you could tell she had so much fun. Plus she was apparently guest judging for two with that turtleneck zombie on the other end of the table. Was that kid ok? Or is he just like that He’s like that on 13 Reasons Why but I just chalk it up to him being a super shy young gay guy. Really not an ideal judge for a reality TV show though.
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Eureka's mini challenge look was giving me Eugene from the walking dead realness. Monet, Kameron, and Aquariua all deserved to be in the bottom, but I probably would've put Aquariua over Monet. That said, while I really liked her, I think it was obvious Monet had kinda peaked
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100% of my problem with Eureka is the disjoint between her drag character (brash, loud, big personality, claims to tells it like it is) and her loving werkroom/confessional weepy bullshit. Even Phi Phi was at least consistent in that she was a oval office in the competition and in the reality tv show, but Eureka seems to want to have it both ways and it just make for boring lovely TV. I will say I've enjoyed her a lot, lot more in the 2nd half of the season now that she's not playing the victim but god drat she made eps like 3, 4, 5, 6 all drag like crazy. I said it before and I'll say it again: The Vixen's only real crime was giving Eureka the underdog edit (although saying "I'm just a fighter deal with it" and then "Eureka why haven't you tried to change who you are" is hypocritical as gently caress) They're my takes and thank you for reading them.
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tote up a bags posted:100% of my problem with Eureka is the disjoint between her drag character (brash, loud, big personality, claims to tells it like it is) and her loving werkroom/confessional weepy bullshit. Even Phi Phi was at least consistent in that she was a oval office in the competition and in the reality tv show, but Eureka seems to want to have it both ways and it just make for boring lovely TV. I will say I've enjoyed her a lot, lot more in the 2nd half of the season now that she's not playing the victim but god drat she made eps like 3, 4, 5, 6 all drag like crazy. I didn't read them and you can't make me!
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I watched this episode late and saw a random headline talking about Drag Race elimination with Cracker's face on it and it made me fear for her life. Then Miz Cookie came out I think Aquaria's makeover looked messier than Monet's or Kameron's, but it looks a lot less basic which imo is the more important point. Given that Kameron usually goes for extravagant aesthetics I was surprised she went with just disco jumpsuits. Lizzo was fantastic as a guest judge while that other guy was literally who Re: Eureka, I've turned around on her more in the more recent episodes. I enjoy her well enough when she's being her big bombastic self, just not when she's holding pity parties, which she's done less of. That doesn't mean I don't like Eureka as a performer, mind, and I genuinely think she's in the better half of this cast. Not in the way Bianca or Ben were, but none of the queens this season really are. also eureka's butch voice kinda made me feel things blizzardvizard fucked around with this message at 12:11 on May 26, 2018 |
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QuickbreathFinisher posted:Hottest take on the last page. She's generally fantastic so i knew she would shine, but you could tell she had so much fun. Plus she was apparently guest judging for two with that turtleneck zombie on the other end of the table. Was that kid ok? Or is he just like that It felt pretty obvious that when he actually piped up for once and disagreed with Ross over something they'd fed him that line and he wasn't even sure what he was talking about.
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blizzardvizard posted:Not in the way Bianca or Ben were, but none of the queens this season really are. That's a true af vibe this season. I think it's one of the strongest casts the show has had in yeaaaars, but there's no real standouts like we've had in the past. This is both a good and bad thing b/c it means I love everyone and want everyone to win, but I have nobody I'm really going crazy over thinking they absolutely need to win it all no matter what. It's a weird balance but I like it.
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I think this episode was one of my favs all season honestly, the interactions between everyone were fun and everything Cracker/Cookie did was amazing. I like Cracker a lot outside of the show so I’m just happy to see her so happy! I’ll miss Monet though 
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Capricia was giving me Kelly Mantle realness somehow and it was the most unsettling thing I've ever seen on this show. It shouldn't be reading Kelly, but it does. All she was missing was the bacon.
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angerbeet posted:Eureka winning would be a reddit apocalypse and I'm here for it I'm cheering for Cracker but I actually want this even more. And holy poo poo am I glad the Vixen is gone finally. Didn't bring a single thing to the table except colossal immaturity. Didn't she claim that her drag was "political"? Hating white people and wearing a corset doesn't really do it. Monet might have stayed had she actually put some makeup on at some point? Girl you are low-rent Bob the Drag Queen, you can't afford to go out aux naturale every week. Learn to contour goddamnit
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Bliggers- posted:Monet might have stayed had she actually put some makeup on at some point? Girl you are low-rent Bob the Drag Queen, you can't afford to go out aux naturale every week. Learn to contour goddamnit Yyeaaaah, that was a real shame, she's an excellent performer and queen in general, but her actual drag is just not up to par. She'll be a major threat whenever she's back for All Stars.
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Bliggers- posted:I'm cheering for Cracker but I actually want this even more. And holy poo poo am I glad the Vixen is gone finally. Didn't bring a single thing to the table except colossal immaturity. Didn't she claim that her drag was "political"? Hating white people and wearing a corset doesn't really do it. 
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I'm torn because I disliked Vixens constant feuding and pointless drama, but as a girl she looked pretty, and as a boy he looked hot, so I still wanted her around for the eyecandy. Semi-related, but drat if this season didn't have a lot of gorgeous men. Vixen, dusty, Kameron, and of course, Aquaria.
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For the record, Vixens drag genuinely is extremely political, but she was not able to represent her best self on the show. Her anxiety, which comes from living a really rough life in a hard part of the world for black people, got the best of her and she couldn't express herself articulately while feeling on the defensive all the time. Like I said earlier, I identify with her a lot. I grew up in a city that was majority minority with a 60% poverty rate. I used to shoplift just to eat. My juvenile record is as long as my arm. When I perceive people with privilege coming at me, there is an overwhelming instinct to read them in the worst way possible. It's hard not to see people as coming at you out of ignorance with no intention of having a meaningful dialog because when you grow up like the vixen or I did you have that experience over and over and over. You lose the ability to trust white people, or straight people, or cis people in my case. You start to see them as at best fair weather friends, at worst as a potential threat to your life, and your fight or flight instincts start screaming at you. Now, with the reality of how queer people are treated online, we get that trauma reenforced 1000x because bigots are braver behind a keyboard than irl. The end result is that we, to a person who has not lived our lives, look like we're flying off the handle at little things or "stereotyping all cis people" as one person told me, but the reality is we're acting out a basic survival instinct that life has ground into us. This is why Asia's mentoring moment with Vixen was so special to me. Asia was the only person on the show who had lived even half of what vixen had lived and she was able to recognize how cornered and caged vixen felt. Helping her realize that Eureka was not the people that hurt her over the years and might not deserve the treatment vixen was giving her was cathartic. My wife has helped me back from the edge like that so many times. I really feel for Vixen because she went into a pressure cooker without whatever support network she had at home and as thanks she's going to be remembered as "that crazy hypocritical bitch" by privileged people who could never understand the life she's lived. There are probably typos all over this post, please don't pounce on them to try to score points on me. My phone loves to autocorrect poo poo really badly for some reason.
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Bliggers- posted:I'm cheering for Cracker but I actually want this even more. And holy poo poo am I glad the Vixen is gone finally. Didn't bring a single thing to the table except colossal immaturity. Didn't she claim that her drag was "political"? Hating white people and wearing a corset doesn't really do it. the episode of untucked where Vixen pointed out all the cameras and talked about the optics of an "angry black lady" and how she'll be thought about compared to Eureka and Aquaria was about as heavy and specific a political conversation as Drag Race has ever had. i get her drag wasn't polished - real DIY vibes - but the political dimension she brought to the show was pretty undeniable
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