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Cardboard Fox
Feb 8, 2009

[Tentatively Excited]
Pantheon: I'm no longer interested in this MMO.

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Node
May 20, 2001

KICKED IN THE COOTER
:dings:
Taco Defender
Jokes on you, I'm doubling my excitement to compensate for your lack of it.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


I said come in! posted:

Wait a minute, the graphics got seriously downgraded lol. Pantheon looks significant worse now in its current build compared to 7 years ago, how does that happen lmao. I'm no longer interested in this MMO.

Yeah I wanna say when they revealed the WoW-ish graphics overhaul everyone was saying it looked worse than what they'd originally showed.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Groovelord Neato posted:

Yeah I wanna say when they revealed the WoW-ish graphics overhaul everyone was saying it looked worse than what they'd originally showed.

Yep the original looked great. This is just really ugly and unappealing.

PrinnySquad
Sep 20, 2008

It really isn't that complicated.
The official reason is the old graphical style was entirely impossible to scale up to get the game out in a timely manner. Luckily they took care of it a decade into development instead of wasting an embarrassing amount of time and money on unusable assets. Also the REALLY early videos were just bought Unity store assets, I think Faerthale was the first zone they built from scratch, and that took them like 2 years to make part of one zone.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


PrinnySquad posted:

The official reason is the old graphical style was entirely impossible to scale up to get the game out in a timely manner. Luckily they took care of it a decade into development instead of wasting an embarrassing amount of time and money on unusable assets. Also the REALLY early videos were just bought Unity store assets, I think Faerthale was the first zone they built from scratch, and that took them like 2 years to make part of one zone.

What makes it so baffling - it was clear they were using bought assets and it still looked better than when they WoWified the game.

Cardboard Fox
Feb 8, 2009

[Tentatively Excited]
Yes, but aren't Unity store assets created by professionals?

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

So basically the impression I am getting is that the devs really don't have the experience to deliver the game they have promised they would. I am very glad I never crowdfunded this.

PrinnySquad
Sep 20, 2008

It really isn't that complicated.

I said come in! posted:

So basically the impression I am getting is that the devs really don't have the experience to deliver the game they have promised they would. I am very glad I never crowdfunded this.

It is 100% this, they have way too much on their plate and nowhere near the experience to know how to manage it.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

I said come in! posted:

So basically the impression I am getting is that the devs really don't have the experience to deliver the game they have promised they would. I am very glad I never crowdfunded this.

how are they supposed to learn if you don't give them any funding

PrinnySquad
Sep 20, 2008

It really isn't that complicated.
The visual NDA is lifted and disappointment across their social media platforms is rolling in.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/1bh47kc/some_pics/

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

PrinnySquad posted:

The visual NDA is lifted and disappointment across their social media platforms is rolling in.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/1bh47kc/some_pics/

standing normally



PrinnySquad
Sep 20, 2008

It really isn't that complicated.
The folks who were previously Pantheon Plus now uploading gameplay streams.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mprdBx6cc6A

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

PrinnySquad posted:

The folks who were previously Pantheon Plus now uploading gameplay streams.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mprdBx6cc6A

jesus, backers really got taken for a ride with this one.

onesixtwo
Apr 27, 2014

Don't you realize that being nice just makes you get hurt?
EARLY DAYS

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

I like the incessant ambient bird chirping that doesn’t fit the vibe of an undead area whatsoever.

PrinnySquad
Sep 20, 2008

It really isn't that complicated.

Ehud posted:

I like the incessant ambient bird chirping that doesn’t fit the vibe of an undead area whatsoever.

10 years isn't enough time to partition a zone out for environmental details, give them another 3 years to sort that out.

Babe Magnet
Jun 2, 2008

lmfao, in general, at this project, still

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

https://www.pantheonmmo.com/newsletter/_2024/march/

"We are thrilled to announce that Season 1 of Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen has been an overwhelming success! The player count exceeded our expectations and the testing data we’ve gathered has been invaluable. We’ve seen a lot of new players come in to test out the game, and some who stay logged in for 24 hours or more. We are extremely pleased to see Pantheon being received like this and we can’t thank you enough for your support and participation."



somebody did a 24 hour session in pantheon :psyberger:

Cardboard Fox
Feb 8, 2009

[Tentatively Excited]
Does the game have an auto logout after like 1 hour, or will that be a launch feature?

smiling giraffe
Nov 12, 2015

Ehud posted:


somebody did a 24 hour session in pantheon :psyberger:
Yes that was Zaide, Enjoy: https://m.twitch.tv/zaidegod

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.


MMO poopsocking for 24 hours is insane in any game.

MMO poopsocking for 24 hours in a game that has like 2 zones and is still missing many core mechanics is incomprehensible.

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



there's this one megaloser on the Pantheon subreddit who has been making these, like, lore journey videos about the half-hearted generic world they crapped out and they're some of the saddest loving things. just little snippets of derivative pseudo-lore about the setting, which nobody has ever thought about for longer than it took to get it up on the relevant section of the website, as the camera pans across something that looks like the beta for a mobile gacha MMO called Dragons Hearts Arisen: The Return of the Fallen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzMAMxUf7m4

it's just so bad

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Frog Act posted:

there's this one megaloser on the Pantheon subreddit who has been making these, like, lore journey videos about the half-hearted generic world they crapped out and they're some of the saddest loving things. just little snippets of derivative pseudo-lore about the setting, which nobody has ever thought about for longer than it took to get it up on the relevant section of the website, as the camera pans across something that looks like the beta for a mobile gacha MMO called Dragons Hearts Arisen: The Return of the Fallen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzMAMxUf7m4

it's just so bad

thanks i'm gonna watch this tonight with my wife

Kaysette
Jan 5, 2009

~*Boston makes me*~
~*feel good*~

:wrongcity:

Frog Act posted:

there's this one megaloser on the Pantheon subreddit who has been making these, like, lore journey videos about the half-hearted generic world they crapped out and they're some of the saddest loving things. just little snippets of derivative pseudo-lore about the setting, which nobody has ever thought about for longer than it took to get it up on the relevant section of the website, as the camera pans across something that looks like the beta for a mobile gacha MMO called Dragons Hearts Arisen: The Return of the Fallen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzMAMxUf7m4

it's just so bad

this is so bizarre, why would anyone spend the time to do this

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.

Kaysette posted:

this is so bizarre, why would anyone spend the time to do this

Setting aside a possible genuine interest and passion for Pantheon (lol), one of the paths to success on YouTube is being an early content creator for a MMO or live-service game and hoping it becomes a big hit. If it does and the community balloons, then you're already there with an established presence. If your content is decent then you have a leg-up on the johnny-come-lately's who's output will be compared to yours, hopefully unfavorably for them. Even in the small-scale, that channel demonstrates this. He's been doing lots of videos on lots of different MMOs and single-player RPGs, but most of them languish at less than a hundred views...except his Pantheon-related ones which consistently hit over a thousand. One video on the art style change a few months ago even broke 10k.

PrinnySquad
Sep 20, 2008

It really isn't that complicated.
They posted a video about upcoming changes for season 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnJSIeEBMw4

And someone summarized everything succinctly in a Reddit thread.
https://www.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/1bpfctw/dev_qa_preparations_for_season_2_text_summary_in/

Summoner went from coming real soon to back on no current timeline, but more interestingly:

quote:

Team is no longer using Hudini

Several years ago this was hailed as a bigdeal for them to start using this particular tool for terrain generation to get the game out faster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_koon-iK72k

And now it's just another case of the team having to scrap 3ish years of whatever it was they were doing. Making one zone sure takes a while when you redo it half a dozen times with a different toolbox each time.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

here's the worst video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWkWjIp8O9o

he talks about pantheon while sitting in a castle of pizza boxes and soda cans





edit: nm don't watch this video it's not even accidentally entertaining

Ehud fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Apr 1, 2024

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Sometimes Narc is actually pretty cool, but when he goes off about the latest crowdfunding scam MMO and how its going to in fact be good, I tune the gently caress out.

PrinnySquad
Sep 20, 2008

It really isn't that complicated.

quote:

“We’ve spent just under $70,000 dollars on the development of Monsters & Memories (2020-2023),” developer Niche Worlds Cult revealed.

https://massivelyop.com/2024/04/01/monster-memories-has-only-cost-70k-to-date-from-the-devs-pockets/

Node
May 20, 2001

KICKED IN THE COOTER
:dings:
Taco Defender

I've been keeping up to date with this for the past month and this looks very promising. The dev team are all volunteering for now, and theres something like a dozen of them. They aren't trying to reinvent the genre, they're just making a game very similar to classic era Everquest. You'll recognize a similar UI, similar item design (NO DROP, attack/delay, procs, etc.), zones, hailing, quest design, stuff like that. They stream a lot of their development, and do some very early build grouping gameplay. Its a very humble project and looks like they know exactly what they are doing (one of the primary developers worked on Everquest for a few expansions in the PoP, GoD era) and seem quite competent. Unlike Pantheon, they actually have gameplay to show at this stage of development.

I've been watching gameplay videos at their channel at https://www.youtube.com/@MonstersMemories. You can watch development videos where they're making models or textures and poo poo if you are into that kind of stuff too.

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Paxman
Feb 7, 2010

Ehud posted:

here's the worst video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWkWjIp8O9o

he talks about pantheon while sitting in a castle of pizza boxes and soda cans





edit: nm don't watch this video it's not even accidentally entertaining

That video is an April fools joke but I'd Agree Narc is really annoying

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