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FuriousxGeorge posted:Some PC people have difficulty separating jokes from serious beliefs and also seem to believe entertainment products are basically a completely 100% effective mind control device. It's a recipe for conflict with comedians. Most of the successful people in the industry are more socially liberal in reality though. Overly conservative comedy sucks rear end for similar reasons. Edit: and as somebody said in this very thread, we always forget Judge is a conservative because he's funny. And that's just not something they do.
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quote:While I have seen this happen in very rare instances, farmore common is poo poo like Ricky Gervais saying he identifies as a gorilla and then smiling, pleased with himself, and saying "ARE YOU OFFENDED?!" Which only works because of the overreaction to it. That's the part about mind control, people think there are actual serious consequences of him doing that. There aren't.
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Apr 22, 2018 21:07
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FuriousxGeorge posted:Which only works because of the overreaction to it. That's the part about mind control, people think there are actual serious consequences of him doing that. There aren't. Nobody thinks there are serious consequences to anything Ricky Gervais does
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Apr 22, 2018 23:00
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Jokes are based on actual attitudes, otherwise they wouldn’t work. It’s not mind control as you say, it’s simple reinforcement and validation of belief systems. Making jokes that reinforce racist, sexist, transphobic etc attitudes tells people their attitudes are acceptable and it’s okay to laugh at those jokes. This keeps marginalized people on the fringes of society because the message is that mainstream media is not made for them. There are consequences and it’s not cool to try to downplay it. Basic decency and inclusion is not a threat to anything, despite what some in comedy would have you believe. I’m not even talking about Silicon Valley, just the general attitude towards jokes in media. People say good comedy should make you uncomfortable but really it should make the powerful and privileged uncomfortable, not the marginalized. Anyway I’m looking forward to tonight’s episode! Hoping for more Bighead.
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Apr 22, 2018 23:02
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Yes, thank you, Mr. Perfect Example.
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Apr 22, 2018 23:11
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FuriousxGeorge posted:Which only works because of the overreaction to it. That's the part about mind control, people think there are actual serious consequences of him doing that. There aren't. Like, it is literally legal and acceptable in 49 states to argue that murdering me was justified because I'm "actually a dude in a dress," so just because you are free from the consequences of a lovely joke reinforcing a lovely aspect of society doesn't mean we all are.
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Apr 23, 2018 01:19
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I'm a member of a marginalized group comedians go after as well. No, that still doesn't make me think histrionic PC fainting couch reactions to trolls (RG) or good natured satire (SV) are any less completely idiotic and counterproductive.
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Apr 23, 2018 01:39
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Why is there a twitter conversation from 2012 in the Silicon Valley thread?
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Apr 23, 2018 02:09
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Kawasaki Nun posted:Why is there a twitter conversation from 2012 in the Silicon Valley thread? Who loving knows, but it seems like people are going out of their way to bait someone into making them butthurt.
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Apr 23, 2018 02:32
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Kawasaki Nun posted:Why is there a twitter conversation from 2012 in the Silicon Valley thread?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7QZgH1eP2o
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Apr 23, 2018 02:53
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Every time. Every single time. Yell at the guy flipping out about how I need to change my mind about not liking certain jokes. Don't Both Sides this poo poo. I'm allowed to say I didn't like a thing and it annoys me to have to argue about it as much as it bothers you having to watch it interrupt a thread about a show we all clearly like and would rather be talking about in a positive way.
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Apr 23, 2018 03:12
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OMG those lips
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Apr 23, 2018 03:55
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Thank gently caress an episode happened.
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Apr 23, 2018 04:13
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And what an episode! AI plot line owned
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Apr 23, 2018 05:36
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I feel like the Jared lips joke was offensive to people who get plastic surgery. Some people have low self-esteem because of body image issues.
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Apr 23, 2018 05:56
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I really, really hope that they aren't turning Jared into a Richard clone with this new public insecurity schtick.
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Apr 23, 2018 06:06
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I hope Jared continues getting crazy plastic surgery
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Apr 23, 2018 06:33
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Is it just me or was there some weird ADR going on this week?
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It was nice to see Richard get a win for once. When he was going all Hercule Poirot in front of the octopipers (ugh), I kept expecting his theory to blow up in his face somehow. So it was a pleasant surprise to see that Eklow was in fact a creep, allowing the rest of the team to cut Richard a little slack for the lost data.
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Apr 23, 2018 07:23
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Should we expect a week of outrage from The Man Robot Love Association from that viscous caricature of a robot lover? 
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FRINGE posted:Should we expect a week of outrage from The Man Robot Love Association from that viscous caricature of a robot lover? Nah, let's just go straight to the whole "do RealDolls have RealFeelings" argument. 
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BIG HEADLINE posted:I really, really hope that they aren't turning Jared into a Richard clone with this new public insecurity schtick. I’m pretty sure that joke was making fun of Zach Woods himself. He did an interview on Colbert and talks about how he has never seen an episode of Silicon Valley because he feels insecure, in his own words, about being “confronted with full the weirdness of your own face.” https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yWtxeyCATxY
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Boris Galerkin posted:I’m pretty sure that joke was making fun of Zach Woods himself. He did an interview on Colbert and talks about how he has never seen an episode of Silicon Valley because he feels insecure, in his own words, about being “confronted with full the weirdness of your own face.” Well, fingers crossed. I did like how they spent the bare minimum of time on Richard being, well, *Richard* this episode. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 10:03 on Apr 23, 2018 |
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404notfound posted:It was nice to see Richard get a win for once. When he was going all Hercule Poirot in front of the octopipers (ugh), I kept expecting his theory to blow up in his face somehow. Yeah, it felt like him having the A.I. question itself was going to be the actual cause of it sucking up the entire server's resources, stuck in an infinitely self-referential loop or something. I was surprised he got it right.
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Superrodan posted:Yeah, it felt like him having the A.I. question itself was going to be the actual cause of it sucking up the entire server's resources It kind of was. When it examined its own "feelings" about its owner(?) its mind spun up like crazy and it called for help.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Nah, let's just go straight to the whole "do RealDolls have RealFeelings" argument. Westworld already has its own thread.
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A great Jared line I missed the first time - after the Bloomberg piece, the media adviser is talking to him and Richard. Adviser: "People loved it... including Adrian Grenier." Jared: "From Devil Wears Prada??" Reminded me of that bit from a few seasons ago where he identifies Ocean's Eleven as "that movie starring Julia Roberts and eleven men."
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Apr 23, 2018 14:41
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I loved that Dinesh watching his interview over and over improved his confidence while Jared doing it ruined his.
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Liked the episode. Help Fiona So with Hooli knowing that the mole scheme failed, is that the last we'll hear of it? Edit: Hooli.com is updated with its massive dick pic. Echo Chamber fucked around with this message at 15:04 on Apr 23, 2018 |
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I feel like that one was set up so the big scene where Richard reveals what a creep the AI dude is was supposed to just kill, and it totally didn't. Just nothing all that funny in that episode.
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Apr 23, 2018 15:10
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I think this is my favorite episode of the season yet. Just every joke was on point. Especially Roko's Basilisk.
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PostNouveau posted:I feel like that one was set up so the big scene where Richard reveals what a creep the AI dude is was supposed to just kill, and it totally didn't. Just nothing all that funny in that episode.
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Cingulate posted:I didn't find that scene particularly funny either, but the episode was quite enjoyable. The gaming guy’s comment made me laugh.
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J33uk posted:Is it just me or was there some weird ADR going on this week? Whatever Belson was saying as he pensively walked out of his office was really poorly done
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I was waiting for the robot to try and seduce Richard with Richard getting caught loving it Good episode!
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Apr 23, 2018 20:42
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The show is sorely missing the satire that was Erlich Bachman. It's not necessarily missing TJ Miller, but it's missing someone making fun of how retarded VCs and entrepreneurs can be. We need internet radio guy back.
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I agree the show is feeling the absence of the Erlich character.
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TJ Miller's increasingly bizarre/dangerous behavior makes the need to separate more apparent, but yeah something else should have filled those shoes at least. Bighead, Hanneman, whatever. Show needs a wildcard. This episode had some great moments but mostly it was on the rails filler.
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