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I really enjoyed the season but would have preferred the monster be ambiguous. Like it was never clear whether it was a mean rear end polar bear or an evil spirit and maybe it was their desperation and superstition that made it seem supernatural. Most of the time it could have looked like a polar bear from a distance but maybe toward the end there could have been a POV shot of the monster face as it's about to eat the victim. It would have given the story another level of depth. But I hope they find some excuse to make more exploration series. More arctic stories would be great as many of those expeditions suffered.
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May 24, 2018 19:19
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I'll not have Mrs. Chippy and the sled dogs be put down on camera
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May 24, 2018 19:40
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The Chad Icemaster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg49TFHC-qo
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May 24, 2018 22:16
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wormil posted:I really enjoyed the season but would have preferred the monster be ambiguous. Like it was never clear whether it was a mean rear end polar bear or an evil spirit and maybe it was their desperation and superstition that made it seem supernatural. Most of the time it could have looked like a polar bear from a distance but maybe toward the end there could have been a POV shot of the monster face as it's about to eat the victim. It would have given the story another level of depth. But I hope they find some excuse to make more exploration series. More arctic stories would be great as many of those expeditions suffered. In the book they sometimes see in the distance what could be a polar bear, only for it to get up on two legs and bumble walk like a man, an image I found very amusing.
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May 24, 2018 22:38
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It's been a long time since I've hated any TV character like I hated Hickey. Just his smug face on screen made my blood pressure rise. Adam Nagaitis is fantastic
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May 25, 2018 00:13
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He was trouble the moment he started trying to undermine the ship's dog in the pilot.
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May 25, 2018 00:23
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Just finished the last episode. My only quibble with the series was Hickey. you saw him coming from a mile away. And who would follow this guy, anyway? Most of those low level guys had never been on an arctic voyage, so there's no way in hell they'll survive alone. I thought the rest was stellar. Watching this with headphones on was the best. I need to find recording of ships creaking and popping for my white noise at night.
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May 25, 2018 05:21
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Hasselblad posted:Syrio Blanky lives, and will be the main character in season 2. He should have crawled out of Tuunbaq's mouth, covered in utensils, and murdered Hickey.
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May 25, 2018 05:23
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I figured you're supposed to be aware of how manipulative and creepy Hickey is from his very first appearances, I never got the feeling it was supposed to be a surprise. He stands out from the rest of the crew with how he behaves, and the more perceptive crew members (Goodsir, Crozier) pick up on it immediately.
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May 25, 2018 07:34
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a mysterious cloak posted:Just finished the last episode. My only quibble with the series was Hickey. you saw him coming from a mile away. And who would follow this guy, anyway? Most of those low level guys had never been on an arctic voyage, so there's no way in hell they'll survive alone. There’s an album called ‘Salt Marie Celeste’ that is spooky atmospheric boat music. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3xC4DK6G0do
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May 25, 2018 09:26
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a mysterious cloak posted:Just finished the last episode. My only quibble with the series was Hickey. you saw him coming from a mile away. And who would follow this guy, anyway? Most of those low level guys had never been on an arctic voyage, so there's no way in hell they'll survive alone. Make a request to this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=channel?UCvVWCrxq_aZr7fN_KpaGGTA
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May 25, 2018 16:23
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Low Desert Punk posted:I figured you're supposed to be aware of how manipulative and creepy Hickey is from his very first appearances, I never got the feeling it was supposed to be a surprise. He stands out from the rest of the crew with how he behaves, and the more perceptive crew members (Goodsir, Crozier) pick up on it immediately. Oh, for sure. It just seemed shoehorned in. Show still would've been specatacular without having A Guy With An Agenda. Just the survival stuff, and the interaction with Silence and her people, would've been plenty of moody tension to keep it going. Add internal strife after they've been stuck in the ice for a while when it would naturally happen - don't have a guy who stole another guy's identity jump on the boat and start jacking up stuff before anything interesting happens. I did like how Tuunbaq had human-like ears, though. I thought it added a nice creepy detail that I hadn't noticed before.
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I think Hickey saw the writing on the wall and was proactive in making plans for when things went to hell. He lacked the blind faith and optimism many had in the captains, especially after learning Crozier was going to leave. It's not so different than how many of us build networks inside and outside our workplace but Hickey was twisted + scurvy + lead + hopelessness, and his plans became insane. Although given the situation there is another way of looking at it .. he understood they were going to die and the only possible way out was joining with this powerful spirit. If your choices are die or insane plan, why not try the insane plan?
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May 25, 2018 21:50
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I have to do a rewatch. Wasn't Crozier just stepping down from his position? I never read it as a "leaving" thing. Of course (IIRC) That whole thing through to the gallows thing wasn't even in the book. Think I may do a re-read as well.
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May 25, 2018 22:47
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Hasselblad posted:I have to do a rewatch. Wasn't Crozier just stepping down from his position? I never read it as a "leaving" thing. Of course (IIRC) That whole thing through to the gallows thing wasn't even in the book. No, he was gonna lead the party searching for help so the men who went with him could say they were forced to.
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May 25, 2018 23:11
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Hasselblad posted:Make a request to this guy: I'm clicking like mad and only get blank youtube page!
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May 26, 2018 02:11
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I adore this book and the series lived up to it! The unending dread and the battle to remain human were so well filmed. I once had an ICU visit that was almost a month long, during which I was not allowed to eat of drink anything. I assure you, lack of food will literally make you insane. I was hallucinating and trying to plot how to rip open and drink my fluid bag. At another point, I ripped a tube out of my gut and started trying to eat it, thinking it was a Twizzler. I'll say this - if anything, the starvation was portrayed far less harsh than it could have been. Does anyone have any links to articles talking about continuing the series in a different setting?
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May 26, 2018 04:23
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If they make this an anthology, I think they should really push the envelope in the second season. Not Antarctica or Everest or Polynesia or the Amazon (though I'd totally be down with an Amazon season tbh). Go to Mars.
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May 26, 2018 04:37
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a mysterious cloak posted:Just finished the last episode. My only quibble with the series was Hickey. you saw him coming from a mile away. And who would follow this guy, anyway? Most of those low level guys had never been on an arctic voyage, so there's no way in hell they'll survive alone. The guy Hickey was based on was a loving pharmacist and accrued about 40 followers to do far more evil things than the book.
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May 26, 2018 13:41
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Despera posted:The guy Hickey was based on was a loving pharmacist and accrued about 40 followers to do far more evil things than the book. Yeah, after reading Batavia's Graveyard I gotta say Hickey's mutiny seemed pretty tame. In terms of heretical sea weasels, Jeronimus Cornelisz is unsurpassed.
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May 26, 2018 14:53
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a mysterious cloak posted:I'm clicking like mad and only get blank youtube page! Odd. Try this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=channel?UCvVWCrxq_aZr7fN_KpaGGTA OK, looks like SA has an issue linking to youtube channels, thinking they are actual videos. So anyhoo, here's a video you can click on to get to the group that creates them.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sL0omwElxw
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May 26, 2018 15:00
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Rardge Rardge posted:Yeah, after reading Batavia's Graveyard I gotta say Hickey's mutiny seemed pretty tame. In terms of heretical sea weasels, Jeronimus Cornelisz is unsurpassed. That would make a awesome series https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeronimus_Cornelisz Apparently Russel Crowe's production company secured rights to make a film based on the book Island of Angry Ghosts but the film is still in development hell. etalian fucked around with this message at 15:14 on May 26, 2018 |
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May 26, 2018 15:09
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An historically-accurate Donner Party show made by the same people who made this would be cool.
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May 26, 2018 16:25
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Wheat Loaf posted:An historically-accurate Donner Party show made by the same people who made this would be cool. well Ravenous was really good.
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May 26, 2018 16:54
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Wheat Loaf posted:An historically-accurate Donner Party show made by the same people who made this would be cool. American Experience: Donner Party conveys a surprisingly large amount of dread for something on pbs.
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May 27, 2018 01:31
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Despera posted:The guy Hickey was based on was a loving pharmacist and accrued about 40 followers to do far more evil things than the book. Really! I had no idea. I'm assuming he's based on the Batavia guy? I think I found some new reading to do!
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May 27, 2018 04:52
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a mysterious cloak posted:Really! I had no idea. I'm assuming he's based on the Batavia guy? I think I found some new reading to do! The book owns: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FC1GTC/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1 It was pretty much the closest think you had to a real work Hickey getting away with succesful mutiny and also setting up his own personal murderous kingdom. The book also goes into modern research archeology which collected evident to support all the various primary sources from the Batavia horror story. 
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May 27, 2018 12:21
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When I listened to the dollop podcast on it I couldn't stop believing it kept getting worse.
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May 27, 2018 14:40
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Author Pete Fitzjames has a nice one hour summary of the story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaVqEVXLPk4
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May 27, 2018 14:48
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Been awhile since anything on the HMS Bounty which is a fascinating story.
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May 27, 2018 16:56
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Polar (wahey) opposite of Franklin's lost expedition: Burke and Wills. One was too cold, the other was too hot. 
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May 27, 2018 17:10
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a mysterious cloak posted:Really! I had no idea. I'm assuming he's based on the Batavia guy? I think I found some new reading to do! Hickeys first name was Cornelisz lest we forget.
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May 27, 2018 23:05
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Despera posted:Hickeys first name was Cornelisz lest we forget. 
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May 27, 2018 23:15
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Despera posted:Hickeys first name was Cornelisz lest we forget. 
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May 27, 2018 23:22
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Finally got the wife to watch the first episode last night. loving chills in the first scene when the native guy relays the expedition's last message to the search party... "We are gone." Goddamn. She's shuffling the kid off to bed so she can watch more 
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May 28, 2018 03:52
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a mysterious cloak posted:Finally got the wife to watch the first episode last night. loving chills in the first scene when the native guy relays the expedition's last message to the search party... "We are gone." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYg8rEDT1RU
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May 28, 2018 04:29
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This scene wasn't in the book at all, I really think it should've been though.
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May 28, 2018 08:15
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HorrificExistence posted:This scene wasn't in the book at all, I really think it should've been though. A lot of changes were made between the book and series, almost always for the better. The screenwriters did an outstanding job of adapting the book and I think they improved on the source material, which is pretty rare.
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Jikes posted:A lot of changes were made between the book and series, almost always for the better. The screenwriters did an outstanding job of adapting the book and I think they improved on the source material, which is pretty rare. Well lots of more recent series like The Expanse had the authors said they enjoyed being involved in a TV adaption since it allowed them to tweak or correct weaker aspects of the source material.
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