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The REAL Goobusters posted:How old are you 14/f/ca
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Sir Kodiak posted:At no point does theorycrafting about what a potential safety feature might look like improve a reading of the film. I don't know what the issue is, Spielberg didn't address it because it doesn't matter. It doesn't seem like you're using the fact that they don't trip up or anything to critique the film or to reinforce a specific reading. The guy who understands how jokes work provided the explanation, a wzrd did it. Also it's not really theory crafting, just common sense. We never see anyone trip up or run full tilt into a wall. Spielberg is telling you this Sir Kodiak posted:The reason this is dumb is not because it's impossible to safely walk down a sidewalk, but that it is ridiculous to control a video game wherein,
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So one thing that I strongly took from this film despite enjoying it on the whole, is that Wade Watts relationship with Artemis is extremely unhealthy and I have since been told that the film actually doesn't even scratch the surface when it comes to books depiction of their relationship. I can't even begin to imagine how dysfunctional he must be in the books to be worse than what I saw in the film because honestly, he soars past cringey straight into creepy in the film already. Its a bit of a shame really because I felt that there was lots of stuff to like about the film otherwise. I loved the soundtrack and aesthetics overall, even if the whole obsession with the 80s felt fairly unrealistic but then again its worth remembering that some people are like that with the 60s even now.
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FiftySeven posted:So one thing that I strongly took from this film despite enjoying it on the whole, is that Wade Watts relationship with Artemis is extremely unhealthy and I have since been told that the film actually doesn't even scratch the surface when it comes to books depiction of their relationship. I can't even begin to imagine how dysfunctional he must be in the books to be worse than what I saw in the film because honestly, he soars past cringey straight into creepy in the film already. In the book he interacts with her a lot less directly. Like in the book the way he learns she has a port wine stain is by hacking into IOI and finding out they are going to murder her and that they have photos in her home (and then looking at the photos of her). Like in general the book has the same love story but most information in the movie that is portrayed by her telling him is in the book him somehow searching the information on line then telling her he knows already.
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Apr 4, 2018 15:31
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FiftySeven posted:So one thing that I strongly took from this film despite enjoying it on the whole, is that Wade Watts relationship with Artemis is extremely unhealthy and I have since been told that the film actually doesn't even scratch the surface when it comes to books depiction of their relationship. I can't even begin to imagine how dysfunctional he must be in the books to be worse than what I saw in the film because honestly, he soars past cringey straight into creepy in the film already. In the movie, it's just one of those "we are in love instantly" dumb online relationships that will probably fail in a week. In the book, I recall him cyber stalking her a lot more and a lot more entitlement.
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Apr 4, 2018 15:54
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RPO is a great movie because it reminded me that my life isn't so lovely after all... 
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It’s been a long while since I read the book, but don’t Wade and Artemis not meet up until about 3/4 way through the book? I do remember that he travels halfway across the country to get to her. The film’s terrible ‘oh, we all lived in Columbus this whole time, what a coincidence’ thing really bothered me for some reason.
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The_Doctor posted:It’s been a long while since I read the book, but don’t Wade and Artemis not meet up until about 3/4 way through the book? They don't meet up until after the final battle and wade finds out she has a birth mark by hacking surveillance footage inside her house.
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Apr 4, 2018 19:35
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Penpal posted:Also it's not really theory crafting, just common sense. Specific technical solutions, which is what I'm arguing against fans writing into the movie, are not "common sense."
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Apr 4, 2018 19:49
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"Ready Player One is as exciting as reading the numbers off of a Quebec license plate."
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Sir Kodiak posted:Specific technical solutions, which is what I'm arguing against fans writing into the movie, are not "common sense." Oh yeah I don't think we disagree. I don't care about a diegetic answer to how any of the vr works, it's all fairytale. The film has people run full tilt in VR on the streets because it makes for a cool shot to match cut to thhhhee oooaaasiis
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here's a take I think we all need right now:quote:eady Player One starts with dystopia: a Columbus, Ohio, housing ghetto in 2045, known as “The Stacks” for its resemblance to piled-up recreational vehicles, that is home to the film’s hero. Then the movie shifts gears from depressing hyperrealism to escapist fantasy.
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Apr 5, 2018 02:14
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I have to disagree that Marvel fanboys would be wowed. I'm not sure anyone is wowed by this movie.
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Apr 5, 2018 08:58
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The thing with people running around in public with OASIS gear reminds me of this segment in a local sketch comedy show from the 90s about a guy walking around in VR helmet getting into all kinds of trouble not realising he was interacting with real people and things at the same time he was experiencing the VR world, and at one point he eventually ends up looking like this https://imgur.com/ONTYO6l (nsfw) The show was probably not all that good tbh but I wish I could find more than the 4 clips online.
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The_Doctor posted:It’s been a long while since I read the book, but don’t Wade and Artemis not meet up until about 3/4 way through the book? I do remember that he travels halfway across the country to get to her. Yeah it annoyed me how easily they all met up, in the book it seemed much more worldwide, and they were only bought together because of Simon Peggs characters money at the very end, but in the film they all just bumped into each other no problem! I generally thought the film was better than the book (which was tedious beyond belief), I thought visually it was stunning, the stacks looked great, the oasis looked impressive. Halliday was portrayed well, as a deeply flawed creator. I didn't like the car race first task as in the book Parcival found the first clue on the school/education planet which I thought was a nice touch because he was really poor and only had access to the free to play planets and his free educational oasis interface. It seemed more believable that an obscure corner of a schooling planet might be overlooked than people wouldn't have realised to go backwards in a race. The end of the film got a bit ridiculous, seeing the hench woman chasing a van down the street on foot and all she can do is watch it drive away when she has minions and drones and stuff!
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Apr 5, 2018 09:48
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Why didn't the evil corporation send a guy to shoot Wade in the head? Not the dumbass bomb attack that's way too obvious. Just send a dude with a gun to blow all the kids' brains out. The bad guy's a CEO, he probably can't even get an erection without killing a prostitute.
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Apr 5, 2018 11:48
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Jukebox Hero posted:Why didn't the evil corporation send a guy to shoot Wade in the head? The drone bomb attack is suggested in the film to look like a gas explosion to reduce police scrutiny. Sending drone bombers (or drones with other murder weapons) seems like a less risky way to murder someone. They just did it movie incompetently by warning the victim, not confirming Wade's presence, and not confirming his corpse. The film provides interesting commentary about drones. Weaponized miniature drones are essentially used for mass surveillance and murder in the film. I can very easily envision a near future America of police drones dropping tear gas on crowds, firing tasers, and firing rubber bullets. comedyblissoption fucked around with this message at 12:04 on Apr 5, 2018 |
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Apr 5, 2018 11:50
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They're an evil megacorporation. In the post apocalypse. There are no drat police outside of the giant bubble cities. Why not just cap him while he's playing video games for twelve hours...? Don't they literally know when he's playing the game? God, I hate this book. The movie was like, a tiny bit better but it was brutally generic. Jukebox Hero fucked around with this message at 12:28 on Apr 5, 2018 |
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Apr 5, 2018 12:26
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Jukebox Hero posted:They're an evil megacorporation. In the post apocalypse. There are no drat police outside of the giant bubble cities. Why not just cap him while he's playing video games for twelve hours...? They should have done that and then Tye Sheridan transforms into Raul Julia and shouts "I AM INTERFACE" and then Tye Julia becomes the Oasis.
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Jukebox Hero posted:They're an evil megacorporation. In the post apocalypse. There are no drat police outside of the giant bubble cities. Why not just cap him while he's playing video games for twelve hours...? A fantastic example of this is breaking labor laws with anti-poaching agreements to suppress worker wages by silicon valley tech companies. They wrote down their conspiracy in e-mail that later showed up in the courts. The even dumber thing about attempting to murder Wade was saying his murder conspiracy on the Oasis in a way Wade and the game platform could probably record. comedyblissoption fucked around with this message at 13:01 on Apr 5, 2018 |
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DC Murderverse posted:here's a take I think we all need right now: Shouldn't White praise this garbage for uhhh triggering liberals or something
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he's a scumbag but fairly consistent in his reviewing
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Jukebox Hero posted:They're an evil megacorporation. In the post apocalypse. There are no drat police outside of the giant bubble cities. Why not just cap him while he's playing video games for twelve hours...? I feel like the setting in the book was made weird because the real world was so clearly just references the same way OASIS was. So the real world could have cyberpunk stuff but then also mad max raiders then also a weather report style news broadcast listing where there was nuclear fallout that day. It was just kitchen sink future and didn't mean anything. The movie seems to be more vague, it's hard to tell if he's poor or everyone is poor. Like he lived in a slum and the resistance lived in a slum so slums existed but when they weren't driving in back alleys it seemed like it was a reasonable city with teens in nice clothes using VR cell phones. Like the book was very "just have whatever, it doesn't matter" and if they had mentioned an alien invasion it wouldn't really have felt out of place, the movie feels kinda unclear on how bad off the world was supposed to be.
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It was really weird when the police showed up at the end. IOI has been bombing housing developments and halling people off to debtors' prison with impunity- was the CEO showing up and firing a gun in the air the last straw for some reason? Why now? I guess maybe we're to assume that IOI has thrown him under the bus?
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General Dog posted:It was really weird when the police showed up at the end. IOI has been bombing housing developments and halling people off to debtors' prison with impunity- was the CEO showing up and firing a gun in the air the last straw for some reason? Why now? I guess maybe we're to assume that IOI has thrown him under the bus? I think a lot of double standards in policing work that way, where the police will do everything they can to give the powerful group a benefit of the doubt or look the other way, but you still gotta not like, walk out in broad daylight and fire a gun personally. Like you can look at like the 1930s south and see a huge lynchings and mob 'justice' and stuff against black people, just open killings for all sorts of minor or imagined crimes. But you can also find some cases of white people arrested for killing blacks, and they are all times someone just took it too far and didn't play by the established rules of categories that would be overlooked or sanctioned by the police and were to the point the police couldn't make up an excuse why not to investigate.
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Jukebox Hero posted:They're an evil megacorporation. In the post apocalypse. There are no drat police outside of the giant bubble cities. Why not just cap him while he's playing video games for twelve hours...? His hideout was supposed to be stupidly well hidden.
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His van is hidden under a big pile of cars that he's either burrowed or found a path into the center of that seems to be clear across the stacks from his laundry room-turned-bedroom. Seems like it'd be pretty hard to find. There's mentions of there being a nicer part of Cleveland, specifically when his aunt gets pissed over her lovely boyfriend wasting 50,000 on Doomworld stuff when that money was going to go to getting them out of the stacks - and I think Sorrento tries to bribe Wade with having an apartment worth a million, so it felt like to me that things had gotten to the Brazil "golf courses and penthouses surrounded by shanty towns" level of inequality in America, and the idea was "a bunch of poor kids take down the impossibly rich empire" with the specific echoes of modern justice taken to their logical conclusion - where the Uber-rich don't really feel repercussions unless they do something wildly blatant (like fire a gun near a group of white people and show intent to murder a white person as the cops arrive) and corporations basically have even more carte blanche than that to override the law with no reprisal. Aech specifically mentions being from Detroit, which as we all know is a hollow shell of a city now. Sho and Daito are a bit odd, though, since they're pretty clearly either first-generation immigrants or somehow ended up in Cleveland directly from Japan, and they're not really explored at all. I suppose in this future, Abenomics and a continued dominance from the LDP has continued not to work and left the middle and working classes there as hosed as ever, leading to a migration? It's all a bit odd as it is, since Cleveland has evidently expanded massively into the fastest growing city in the US just off of Gregarious Games and IOI being headquartered there. The background of everything is a bit blurry, a bit ramshackle, but that might be more an effect of the narrative being solely focused on Wade and the OASIS and his crusade inside it. Like, this Wade has checked out from the rest of the world. He doesn't want to engage in it - he falls in love with a girl from Twitch streams and walkthroughs, for crying out loud (and she calls him out on his refusal to engage with reality, falling in love with an avatar and an idea of a person in his head... and then kidnaps him to bring him in on her revolution, although they go far enough to quickly explain that he's useful to the revolution's current situation as the #1 Halliday Nerd In The World). And "escapism is a drug, and like any other drug, if you let it guide your life, you'll miss everything" is pretty much the moral, so maybe it all works? It's such a weird movie.
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I would assume in that day and age running a VPN would be standard with all the weird stuff you can get into in the Oasis.
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R. Guyovich posted:he's a scumbag but fairly consistent in his reviewing If anything he's calmed down from how vitriolic and professorial his reviews were a few years ago.
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Jukebox Hero posted:Why didn't the evil corporation send a guy to shoot Wade in the head? I've said for years the real problem with villains is they simply lack good henchmen.
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I like how in the future, with all its technological advancements, we've pretty much gone back to "Ask Jeeves."
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Yeah, though natural language data retrieval is a fine idea. 1996 was just decades too early for it to be practical.
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The Cameo posted:And "escapism is a drug, and like any other drug, if you let it guide your life, you'll miss everything" is pretty much the moral, so maybe it all works? The drug in question renders people in a fantasy where the image of exploding into money like Mario Bros, Faxanadu, countless other video games, is a rather appropriate image of what happens when games remove the subject-object relationship between participants and the game. So the contradiction here is that you have people running around as their favorite heroes, but in terms of what most of us become and what this film presents as everyone's ideal fantasy is that you look like a protagonist but you really "die" like a Goomba so the tech start up kid can fill up his gas tank. And I think that's a pretty visually accurate representation of the Libertarian fantasy relative to video games. It's a type of populism relative to video games and the arcade era. When it was said by, I think it was Spielberg, that "This is a movie that takes place both in the future and in the 80s", the aforementioned types of visuals represents that assertion well. Like when Parzival just opens his door to collect literal chump change, etc. Hell, I think it represents how lovely YouTube channels like Core-A-Gaming are following in the footsteps of Seth Killian in terms of creating the perfect spectator because people still welcome those special few rising to the top, even as they're playing the game themselves. There's no room for that sort of personal ownership of what you play before a scoreboard and your substance gets distributed to someone else in the game if you inevitably lose. We have people engaged in play, fantasizing about being a hero, but even if you keep that to 5 out of 7 days of the week, the fantasy is about gamers inviting themselves to be obliterated to the advantage of a few chosen/lucky few. In that sense, I think the fact that an entire generation of games like what happened in the 90s where score gradually started disappearing (before eventually reemerging) kind of represents the nostalgia for specific eras of games and that libertarian ideology. I mean, you could read the movie as itself being an adventure game, but it's still conveyed by those old visual staples of arcade era video games. I mean, that being said, I thought that this type of imagery was well-rendered on screen and the movie is quite accurate to what it's invoking at least on that level. Corrosion fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Apr 8, 2018 |
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This movie was alright, but the scene where a horde of 12 year olds are running forward and then it shows them in the Oasis and they're all Master Chief cracked me up.
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This movie kinda reminded me of Starship Troopers, where the movie itself is propaganda and skewed in favor of cutthroat capitalist society that exists within the movie's universe.
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Saw this last week; I will say it was more self-aware than I expected. Overall not that great, but I was mildly entertained, and the movie wasn't as far up its own rear end as I feared. The movie makes it pretty clear that the obsession with 80s/90s/00s pop culture is rooted in two things: 1. The future is so depressing that society has forgotten how to make new pop culture, leading to this sort of cargo-cult revolving around past pop culture. Or, I suppose you could argue that society can't make new pop culture because they're so obsessed with 80s/90s/00s pop culture. Either way, it's not healthy. 2. Everyone's obsessed with learning everything about the Mark Rylance character, who is unambiguously on the spectrum. That's right, everyone models their entertainment preferences after a known autist. Now, the movie doesn't really commit to this, but I found this interesting. Also The Shining sequence was fun; I enjoyed the shot at the end where they're showing the IOI office with everyone freaking out in their headsets. GonSmithe posted:This movie was alright, but the scene where a horde of 12 year olds are running forward and then it shows them in the Oasis and they're all Master Chief cracked me up. This too.
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Well this was better than I expected. Most of the action sequences were just kind of exhausting to watch though, especially the final battle. Didn't help that that scene had the highest volume of characters shouting "IT'S THIS CHARACTER FROM A THING YOU LIKE." Still it was cool that the solution to the puzzle was understanding the creator as a human being, rather than trivia from stuff he liked. Overall though it was pretty fun. I really loved when the movie would contrast the Oasis scenes with what was happening in the real world. The army of corporate gamers cracked me up every time. For some reason the stakes seemed super low for the whole thing though. I think we needed a bit more info about the real world to make it really work. And the ending was pretty unsatisfying. I mean they do something that materially improves peoples lives by shutting down the debt prisons, but closing the Oasis 2 days a week is a pretty lame triumph.
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The Lego Movie celebrated play. Ready Player One celebrated consumption of 'play'. It felt like a world of references in a way that people like the idea of liking something. And the best way to signal that was trivia. Like, I've played a LOT of Civ1 for MS-DOS. A lot. And I could spout off way too much civ1 trivia to ever be invited to parties. But I wouldn't say my knowledge of civ1 is the basis or the content for my love of it. RPO seemed to LOVE the idea of liking stuff. Also, whats with not subverting the most basic tropes oh wait this is a movie from teenage boys in the 80s to teenage boys in the 10s. Just lol at the last line of the movie: Reality is real.
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