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Hello, this thread is for the Netflix crew that just got their hands on Season 3 of Better Call Saul, which was released and aired last year. The Better Call Saul Season 3 Thread has sadly fallen into the archives, so I am shamelessly reopening it and also shamelessly stealing the OP's OP from that thread. It's a good television series and deserves an active thread anyway. Especially since Season 4 won't even air until the fall!  The story thus far of the backalley-grifter-gone-legit-lawyer-gone-meth-money-laundering-fixer from Breaking Bad, Saul Goodman nee Jimmy McGill, has left Jimmy confessing to his brother Chuck to having tampered with the documents on which Chuck's recent maneuver to secure the business of clients Mesa Verde depended, making it look like Chuck and HHM were incompetent and losing them the business in favor of Jimmy and Kim Wexler—but Chuck was secretly recording Jimmy's confession the whole time, so even though Chuck still seems pretty crazy, he's crazy like a fox. (deep breath) Also, decrepit but badass ex-cop Mike Ehrmantraut was all set to put a bullet through drug kingpin Hector Salamanca from a bluff across the way from his desert hideout, but he got warned off by a mysterious someone who left a note on the windshield saying DON'T. IT'S REALLY GOOD YOU GUYS, IT'S TOTALLY NOT A BORING LAW TALKING SOAP OPERA SHOW. So where to next with Chuck's scheming ways and Mike's underworld assassinations? Who knows, because the big news for this season hinges on the reveal that Gus Fring is going to be in it Here's a Forbes story that discusses AMC's marketing stunt centering around this reveal, which hardly qualifies as a spoiler with them drawing this much attention to it. NOT appearing in the new season is Walter White, so get that out of your heads right now. But he's in the behind-the-scenes 3-minute teaser that just recently dropped. It looks like they're having lots of fun recreating Los Pollos Hermanos and getting the old gang back together for another fun filled season of legal intrigue, dramatic tension, violent standoffs, protracted anticipation of characters' evolution, cocobolo desks, foil-covered walls, and beautifully shot views of scenic Albuquerque!
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I'm assuming it will probably be acceptable to post spoilers since most people likely already watched the season a year ago. So I will anyway. I look forward to season 4 and hope they do a nice farewell for Chuck and look forward to seeing the aftermath of the Salamaca heart attack. I am also a little curious how long they are hoping to run the show for? I mean, it would seem weird for the prequel / spin off to have more seasons than it's predecessor would it not?
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Apr 3, 2018 11:01
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I won't go throwing around a lot of spoilers for the nextflix crew (Come on, Slick Goku, this is for people who are just watching it.. not that what you said is that big of a spoiler if you watched BB). But I will say I loved this season. It had some great moments. A lot of people are split on the Mike stuff but I love the Mike stuff, some of the things he does are absolutely classic Mike. All in all: Great season and can't wait for 4.
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Apr 3, 2018 11:46
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Yep, season 3 was absolute enjoyment. This is pretty much the only series I'm looking forward to. Allow me to repost this gem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yum0MSXWltc
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Apr 3, 2018 19:43
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Blazing Ownager posted:I won't go throwing around a lot of spoilers for the nextflix crew (Come on, Slick Goku, this is for people who are just watching it.. not that what you said is that big of a spoiler if you watched BB). But I will say I loved this season. It had some great moments. A lot of people are split on the Mike stuff but I love the Mike stuff, some of the things he does are absolutely classic Mike. It's been released for a week though... But yea okay, I'll spoiler anything else in the future 
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Apr 4, 2018 03:39
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I'm definitely planning on rewatching this season now, it was hella good
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Apr 4, 2018 04:11
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This show is phenomenal and so was this season. I envy those getting to watch it for the first time, and pity them for not seeing it before now.
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Apr 4, 2018 04:19
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Negrostrike posted:Yep, season 3 was absolute enjoyment. This is pretty much the only series I'm looking forward to. The whole scene in general was phenomenal.
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Apr 4, 2018 12:59
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I'm not sure how much darker this show can get after the end of season 3 but I'm looking forward to it.
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Apr 5, 2018 01:40
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Well the whole house was on fire so it got WAY less dark.
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Apr 5, 2018 05:18
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I started watching from the start again since it’s been so long since I saw it I totally forgot what the hell is going on. Man, it’s impressive how high quality this show is. Better than 90 percent of Breaking Bad IMO.
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Apr 7, 2018 02:46
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I've rewatched most of season 3 after it's addition to Netflix, man this show's so good. By the end of season 4 we're definitely seeing Mike and Saul be very close to where they are at in Breaking Bad, I think we get right up to Mike fully working for Fring and Saul making the proper transition into Saul Goodman: Criminal Lawyer, and then hopefully we get a season 5 showing the early days of both of those lifestyles and ending maybe a little bit past Saul's introduction to Breaking Bad. My wild twist speculations for where Mike and Saul end the season are that Mike has progressed to complete willingness to kill dudes when it's the straightest path to what he or Fring want to accomplish and they're "in the game" and Kim is actually still with Jimmy when he does the full name change and starts representing drug dealers and such, and that relationship doesn't fall apart until season 5. Probably not the wildest twists though, so I expect the show to surprise me, man this wait is gonna be awful though.
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Apr 7, 2018 13:20
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Ugly In The Morning posted:I started watching from the start again since it’s been so long since I saw it I totally forgot what the hell is going on. Man, it’s impressive how high quality this show is. Better than 90 percent of Breaking Bad IMO. Differently equally great flavors is an apt comparison here Cherry candy or Raspberry candy, it's still drat good
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Apr 7, 2018 13:41
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NowonSA posted:I've rewatched most of season 3 after it's addition to Netflix, man this show's so good. By the end of season 4 we're definitely seeing Mike and Saul be very close to where they are at in Breaking Bad, I think we get right up to Mike fully working for Fring and Saul making the proper transition into Saul Goodman: Criminal Lawyer, and then hopefully we get a season 5 showing the early days of both of those lifestyles and ending maybe a little bit past Saul's introduction to Breaking Bad. Pretty sure season 4 will mostly be the transition to Saul Goodman. As the end of season 3 set it up for that with no old people wanting to work with Jimmy again and he's going to have to find a new demographic when he gets his license back. Also with his brother gone, he won't have anyone holding him back, except maybe Kim.
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Apr 8, 2018 03:39
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SLICK GOKU BABY posted:Pretty sure season 4 will mostly be the transition to Saul Goodman. As the end of season 3 set it up for that with no old people wanting to work with Jimmy again and he's going to have to find a new demographic when he gets his license back. Also with his brother gone, he won't have anyone holding him back, except maybe Kim. Kim swings between holding him back and egging him on. Who didn't cheer at all the Slippin' Kimmy moments? Which makes me terrified how her plot is going to end 
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Apr 8, 2018 21:18
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Strom Cuzewon posted:Kim swings between holding him back and egging him on. Who didn't cheer at all the Slippin' Kimmy moments? Which makes me terrified how her plot is going to end I also think it's so much more interesting if Jimmy actually has people in his life that he cares about while being Saul, and especially while Walt fucks everything up for him.
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Apr 8, 2018 22:09
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Kim knows about the poo poo that Jimmy pulled with Irene (the Sandpiper lawsuit old lady for those who don't remember) and is still 100% in his corner. From what I can recall, the worst thing that Saul suggests of his own volition in Breaking Bad is getting a bunch of undocumented workers deported from Bogdan's car wash so Walt and Skyler can get it. He doesn't really have that much lower to go ethically speaking. He suggests assassination multiple times over the course of the series, people really seem to gloss over just how evil Saul actually was.
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Apr 8, 2018 23:52
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socialsecurity posted:He suggests assassination multiple times over the course of the series, people really seem to gloss over just how evil Saul actually was. When he tries to break things off with Walt at the start of Season 5 he is absolutely being 100% sincere with no ulterior motive.
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Apr 9, 2018 00:50
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Strom Cuzewon posted:Kim swings between holding him back and egging him on. Who didn't cheer at all the Slippin' Kimmy moments? Which makes me terrified how her plot is going to end There's gotta be a point where he crosses the line and she doesn't want to put her reputation in with Jimmy. Maybe the point where she realizes it's too much will be what drives Jimmy to go from being a criminal lawyer to being a criminal lawyer.
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Apr 9, 2018 03:36
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Kim shows up in last shot of last episode and the fanbase goes bananers
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Apr 9, 2018 09:07
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Milo and POTUS posted:Kim shows up in last shot of last episode and the fanbase goes bananers I'm thinking Gene has to be desperate enough for human connection, probably spurred on by health issues, that he gets Kim to come see him in Nebraska, or goes to see her himself. She'll have moved on and has kids with some other nice and normal guy, but they go out and do one last minor con together before they part. For maximum symmetry, they run the heart attack con that Marco died doing or a variant thereof that involves Gene having a health scare, only Kim leads the guy to him and Saul/Gene actually dies doing it filling the Marco role, but he does it with a smile on his face. Hire me Gilligan.
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Apr 9, 2018 17:13
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rip chuck https://twitter.com/MJMcKean/status/983330247188742146
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Apr 9, 2018 17:48
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If anyone knows how to deliver sick burns it's Michael McKean
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Apr 9, 2018 18:05
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Since season 1 I figured that eventually Chuck’s firm will want to retain his last name and suppress Jimmy from using it. He’ll get some kind of payout. Other side is he doesn’t use it out of shame.
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Apr 11, 2018 03:57
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Kim developing an opioid addiction after her car accident ("always the good stuff") is probably Jimmy's gateway to the drug trade and more overlap with the Mike/Gus/Nacho plotlines.
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Apr 12, 2018 08:17
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I thought the promotional Gus stuff for Season 3 was actually kind of dumb but this is viral marketing I can get behind https://twitter.com/ZachFB/status/985969001728626688
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Apr 16, 2018 21:01
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Ok, I'm behind everyone here, only on episode 3 and jesus christ gently caress chuck
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Apr 17, 2018 02:55
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I just hit the end of season 3 and had netflix go to a full screen trailer park boys ad and man was that some tonal whiplash
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Apr 18, 2018 23:01
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socialsecurity posted:He suggests assassination multiple times over the course of the series, people really seem to gloss over just how evil Saul actually was. Well... The only people he ever suggests killing are Jesse twice and Hank once. One of the two times it's Jesse is right after Jesse assault Saul, nearly shoots him, and is running around town on meth leaving threatening voicemails and trying to burn down houses ("an old yeller situation"). Hank and the other time with Jesse are when he thinks they're about to turn Walt over to the DEA. All three times, he's visibly uncomfortable making the suggestion and drops it immediately. He also was horrified and tried to cut ties with Walt after he found out that he poisoned a child and made Saul an unwitting accomplice. So he's certainly evil in a cowardly, greedy sense, but he only suggests violence in pretty extreme and defensive situations. That pales pretty hard in comparison to what half the rest of the cast is up to. Blind Pineapple posted:Kim developing an opioid addiction after her car accident ("always the good stuff") is probably Jimmy's gateway to the drug trade and more overlap with the Mike/Gus/Nacho plotlines. You actually might really be on to something here. Nacho's side business with the squat cobbler guy was Oxycontin, and there's that whole thing about Nacho having more dealings with Saul and then getting killed. Am I the only one who's really bored with the Gus/Mike stuff, despite liking the characters? Mike's season 3 was this really weird mix of jumping between hammering the audience with callbacks to Breaking Bad and hammering the audience with the intriguing, suspenseful 'mystery' of who's following him and why. Avasculous fucked around with this message at 22:04 on May 7, 2018 |
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May 7, 2018 22:00
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The Gus/Mike stuff does strike me as a bit... self-important? It's incredibly fascinating to watch, from a creative standpoint, but in terms of what it accomplishes as far as story goes, yes, the Mike/Gus scenes have this deliberate pacing that feels more nostalgic for the gentle but steady descent of Walter White as opposed to the deep-end plunge that is Jimmy McGill. It's very much trying to have their cake and eat it too, but these people are the best in the business and what they produce is entrancing, if only for meta reasons. I do hope they tone it down a little in Season 4 to give, for want of a better metaphor, more getting to the loving, but for a season that centered around the complete destruction of the main antagonist and an introduction of Gus Motherfucking Fring, build up is only natural.
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May 10, 2018 05:17
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They should figure out how to end this show soon, the plot is a complete drag now.
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May 10, 2018 10:10
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Can't wait for another 10 weeks of that awful take.
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May 10, 2018 10:45
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I like to watch Mike meticulously plan crimes, and I hope he plans many more
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May 10, 2018 10:52
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Pedro De Heredia posted:They should figure out how to end this show soon, the plot is a complete drag now. lmao i've never seen a wronger take about a piece of media and we have a whole subforum that defends the star wars prequels.
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May 12, 2018 01:46
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Pedro De Heredia posted:They should figure out how to end this show soon, the plot is a complete drag now. This is a thread for Better Call Saul. This isn't the Breaking Bad thread from 2013. Hope the helps.
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May 12, 2018 01:47
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I gotta' tell ya': I have an older sibling that's just like Chuck. And this poo poo is so true-to-life it gets crazy hard to watch. I mean, it's a little different because Jimmy is a con artist and deserves to be mistrusted, but still. All that familial poo poo is just... whoa.
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May 12, 2018 03:22
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I didn't realize this was up on Netflix until last week, just finished getting caught up. Holy poo poo, this show is amazing. Stray thoughts in no particular order: Vince Gilligan is an amazing director, in addition to being a world class showrunner. I love Nacho. Odenkirk deserves all the praise he gets. Michael McKean is out of this world good. Howard Hamlin is the best dressed man on TV.
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May 26, 2018 00:40
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Season 4 start date is August 6th.
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May 31, 2018 21:33
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Season 4 start date is August 6th.  I am so loving pumped.Also, 2017 for tv was incredible.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Season 4 start date is August 6th. Which means by October something interesting will happen on screen!
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