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Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


The only DVD I had issues with was my copy of the Transformers: The Movie, 25th anniversary edition gained a weird brownness to parts of the disc making it unplayable. Luckily I still had my copy of the original Rhino release.

I suspect that the damage was at least partially caused due to UV exposure from the case being damaged during a move 5 years earlier.

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Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


Nihonniboku posted:

I seem to remember that multi-disc DVD players were never that big either. The only one I remember even seeing was my parents' first DVD player that they got in 2000.

My parent's first DVD player was probably in 1999, and it could do two discs! I don't think we ever actually used that feature, because back then any movies that needed more than one disc just made you flip the thing over.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


Detective No. 27 posted:

I think the first DVD my family watched was the Michael Keaton Jack Frost.

The Matrix was mine.

Our DVD player also came with the "Four free DVD's!" voucher. 3/4 of them were "The Stepmom," "Titanic," and "Lost in Space," what number 4 was?

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


First DVD that I bought for myself? American Pie

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


EL BROMANCE posted:

Feature Lists:
* Interactive Menus

Always loved seeing this on the back of nearly every DVD. It's a selling point from the VHS sure, but 5 years into the format you don't have to show off that I can change the audio settings over a static JPEG of the poster artwork.

Detroit Rock City had an "award winning" menu. It was probably the worst menu I've ever encountered. Conversely, it was also a movie that just started playing when you put the disc in, so the only way you could get to it was pressing menu, or watching every last second of the movie.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


Before I got a 16:9 TV, my mom would give me full frame DVDs for Christmas despite my protests for Widescreen.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


Big Mean Jerk posted:

My first DVD was a copy of Fargo that came in a bizarre jewel case contraption that had a black tray you slid out from the bottom to access the disc. I cant find any pictures of it online, but I swear it existed.

I've seen a picture of one of these before, so you're not making it up

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


CopywrightMMXI posted:

The first dvd I ever watched was Fight Club at a friends house. Fight Club, Gladiator and Matrix seemed to be the DVD’s everyone had then. I didn’t get a player until 2003 and the first dvd I got was either season 1 of Married With Children or the Ric Flair Ultimate Collection.

The Matrix was really poised to become something similar to Star Wars, but then they made the sequels exceptionally bad and everyone stopped caring right after the third one.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


TheScott2K posted:

Divx very impressively got wrong everything that was possible to get wrong.

Why yes, I would love to buy a physical copy of a movie, and then have to pay for it again each time I watch it!

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


Basebf555 posted:

Yea that was during the time when Blockbuster Video still dominated, and so late fees and returning movies was still considered a major annoyance. So those DVDs worked kinda like a streaming rental does now, you can watch it however many times you want but after X days it won't work anymore.

Were late fees really that big of a deal though?

95% of the time I was watching the movie I rented that night, and it wasn't hard to return it within a day or two. The VHS rewinding policy was typically more of a pain in the rear end, but even that wasn't too difficult to do. I guess maybe if you lived in the sticks and had to drive 45 minutes to the nearest Blockbuster

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


gey muckle mowser posted:

I couldn't tell you what my first blu-ray was, possibly The Searchers or Kingdom of Heaven. Those were among the first ~10 or so I bought anyway.

Mine was The Neverending Story, I got it at Target for $6

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


TheScott2K posted:

Blockbuster once lost the DVD copy of Sneakers that we definitely returned and charged us $39.99 for it. It was at Target for like $12. gently caress Blockbuster.

I preferred to go across the street to Hollywood Video anyway. They had a cute clerk that I got flustered around once and ended up calling Election "Erection."

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


Enderzero posted:

I think that might be because rentable stock cost way more than buying the film from a retail store. I seem to remember VHS tapes cost like $120 for a rental store to buy back in the day, since they would rent it out over and over again. They were probably also ripping you off, though.

It was my understanding that was normal cost to everyone at the dawn of home video because the movie studios were terrified that it would be the end of cinema.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


Vinegar Syndrome update:

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From 12am - 11:59pm EST on Friday the 13th (tomorrow) enjoy free International shipping for orders over $50. Fyi, as usual, preorders will be disabled during the free International shipping event.

May releases are up for preorder!

Now for May, as some of you might have already seen, we're finally readying Melvin Van Peeble's masterpiece SWEET SWEETBACK'S BAADASSSSS SONG for Blu-ray, in an all new 4k restoration from the original negative!

Then there's a hardcore favorite, Roger Watkins‘ sympathy of misery and hate, HER NAME WAS LISA, newly restored from the camera negative and fully uncut! It looks gorgeous in 1080p and it's a must for any Watkins fan.

Lastly, we're taking a diversion to Texas for the Blu-ray debut of Glen Coburn's 80s horror/comedy BLOOD SUCKERS FROM OUTER SPACE.

On the DVD front, there's Edwin Brown's hardcore ensemble comedy, NAUGHTY GIRLS NEED LOVE TOO plus a double feature of THE SEDUCTION OF CINDY and TARA TARA TARA TARA, two Leonard Kirtman sleaze ventures starring the incredible Seka and Veronica Hart.

Halfway to Black Friday sale info:

• Our Halfway to Black Friday sale is Memorial Day Weekend (May 25th - 28th).

• Nearly everything in our catalog (excluding some of the newest releases) will be 50% off SRP (some items will be discounted even greater!)

• Our 'Halfway to Black Friday' packages will be available once again, offering heavy discounts for pre-ordering ALL of our releases (or just the Blus) that come out between June and December.

• We've also got a brand new 2018 catalogue of film in the works, plus another surprise or two…or three.

• Of course, the main focus is no doubt going to be the two surprise Blu-rays. A couple more hints: while both were shot in the 70s, they each saw releases in the 80s. One such release was a standard reissue while the other remained unavailable for viewing for over half a decade after completion of principal photography.

Lastly, we had to update our shipping rates:

USPS raised their rates in January so unfortunately we're forced to follow suit. So, the new shipping rates are:
• Domestic USPS Economy: $4
• Domestic USPS Priority: $7
• Canada (flat fee): $12
• International (flat fee): $16

The free shipping thresholds remain to same:
• Domestic orders over $50 ship free via USPS Economy
• Canadian orders over $100 ship free
• International orders over $150 ship free

If you're like me and just pre-order all of VS's blus, the Half-way to Black Friday package is a great. I didn't get the 2018 package because I had just moved and the price point was a little more than I could justify at the time, so I'll be jumping on this one again this year.

Last year it covered everything from June to the end of the year, so you'll have to make a separate purchase for May preorders and/or the Half-Way secret blus.

Again, the package is highly recommended by me because I've really enjoyed discovering some movies I probably would have never even been aware of otherwise. I can't say that they've all been winners to me, but I don't regret any of it either.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


mallratcal posted:

I haven't seen Death Machines but Vinegar Syndrome does a really good job with their restorations.

The only thing that I don't like about Vinegar Syndrome is that it makes it very clear just how prevalent filters are in modern cinema.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


Five Cent Deposit posted:

How do you mean?

Vinegar Syndrome's stuff looks amazing, and none of it has the lazy filters and other digital mumbo jumbo that current movies have. My statement was a knock on modern film making rather than an actual complaint about Vinegar Syndrome.

Boinks posted:

Heads up: The Ring blu ray was a $5 bargain bin disc as recently as a year ago. Now it's OOP and selling for $20 or the Best Buy version is $40.

I discovered a couple years ago that I don't like The Ring anymore. There's something about it that has just been lost to me now that VCRs and tube based TVs are antiquated.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


Five Cent Deposit posted:

That's what I thought you meant.

I work in post production, on some pretty big projects. Stuff every single poster here has heard of and many of you have seen. I think modern color timing trends are problematic for many reasons. I don't think I speak for the majority of my colleagues, though. I'm not saying every feature film coming out of Hollywood looks bad - but I do feel that the digital intermediate workflow, and digital camera acquisition workflow, bring a lot of pain. I'm tempted to say they create more problems than they solve. For that matter - even though it is my bread and butter - digital (non-linear) editing hasn't really advanced the form at all in my opinion and causes plenty of its own headaches. I can't say I long for "the good old days," especially since I would have no career to speak of, but what you call "lazy filters and other digital mumbo jumbo" are here to stay and the entire medium has shifted to accommodate and rely on the new technology. I do silently rejoice a little bit whenever a top tier product is shot and finished on film with no DI like Hateful Eight.

I'm actually not against digital production. It's just glaring when I watch a beautifully restored movie that hardly anyone cared about from the 70's, where even the low budget ones had to put a lot of care into how things looked because of the time and effort it took to develop and edit physical film. I guess my complaint really is that a lot of modern movies feel like certain elements were always intended to be fixed in post production, as opposed to carefully planned out to be captured during production.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


EL BROMANCE posted:

It's mainly the horror community, and they're just plain weird rather than hipsters.

I get the feeling that's more of a tradition type thing.

Prior to the 70's horror really was a comedic genre, you'd go unsupervised to the theater to watch a bunch of silly poo poo go down involving a goofy rear end monster and possibly a beach party. Then Night of the Living Dead happened, and revolutionized horror into a genre that could truly be horrifying. The 70's gave us some really great movies like The Texas Chainsaw Massacre or The Town that Dreaded Sundown that defined what the genre would be for the next few decades.

By the 80's, Horror was that genre that was fairly easy to do for budding film makers, and shunned by normies for the most part, so there's a ton of it that was obscure. A lot of it got passed around during the 90's as 2nd or 3rd generation copies, and it was a big deal when one of us got our hands on a copy of Dead Alive. Other movies were spoken of in whispers and never really known if it existed or not.

Sure you could go to the local video store and find most of the Friday the 13th or Nightmare on Elm Street moves. You had to know someone with a car, and someone who knew where the cool video store was if you wanted to rent Killer Klowns from Outer Space, or Trick Or Treat. Part of horror movies in the 90's really was the thrill of the hunt.

When the 2000's rolled around, the internet made the world of horror smaller, and horror became much more mainstream, which muddied the waters. With DVD, and how obscure a lot of titles were, there were fears that there were some movies that would never be transferred to DVD (and a lot weren't). Some titles may truly functionally be lost outside of the VHS format today.

Typing this post, I get the feeling that this is why a lot of these obscure horror titles are getting releases on Blu. The horror kids that were in high school in the late 80's and 90's are now old enough to start a small company that restores and releases these old titles.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


LORD OF BOOTY posted:

for what it's worth, my experience of video stores was in the 90s, and if your video store wasn't a Blockbuster or Hollywood Video it was basically guaranteed to be the "cool" video store (and even Blockbuster had a surprising chance of being good). Major Video in Baton Rouge had loving everything, including a "Japanimation" section that I remember being badass as all hell because they had basically everything Manga Entertainment and Central Park Media ever put out on VHS.

I never had that experience. We went to a store in the mid-80's and I was too young to remember anything beyond the giant cardboard Pumpkinhead, and the Starbucks next door (original logo with bare mermaid titties). Then it was a tiny mom and pop shop that I was more interested in riding my bike up there to rent NES games.

Then we had a local chain called Encore which was just about everything you could want from a chain video store. $0.99 one day rentals on all new releases, a loyalty program where you could rent a movie for free every time you spent a certain amount on rentals. Most importantly a nice wide selection of everything, sounds a lot like that Major Video you mentioned. Sadly the chain died out when I was 17, and it didn't make it to the DVD era.

Encore was replaced with a few small shops, and a Blockbuster opened across the street, followed by a Hollywood video taking up about the last 1/4 of Encore's old space. Both of those had a fairly lacking selection overall compared to Encore, and it always just felt hollow walking into them. I never liked renting DVDs from them because it was about $8 each, and I could usually just go buy one for ~$18 new (with a much better selection)

I miss part of the ritual of the video store, but I feel like that experience is nearly extinct.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


Liar Lyre posted:

Heads up, Vinegar Syndrome are having their Midway to Black Friday sale (50% almost everything) going from May 25-28 including two mystery blu rays. One of them they say will not get a second run after it’s initial 1,500 piece first run. They said it won’t be a horror film, so if you like weird porn on BR this is your reminder.

It's Vinegar Syndrome, there really is no telling what it is.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


caligulamprey posted:

They've already released Adam Rifkin's Psycho Cop Returns, I'm gonna need a Dark Backward BR outta Vinegar Syndrome sooner rather than later.

Psycho Cop Returns was one of my favorite VS releases from last year

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


Vinegar Syndrome now has a checklist feature. They classified me as a Human Tornado

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


feedmyleg posted:

For years I've hated the inclusion of DVDs in Blu-Ray packaging, feeling that it's super wasteful.

They have a use it's just not for us turbo movie nerds.

I'm going to be setting up my old TV in my room with the Xbox 360 so I'll probably get use out of some of them until I get around to buying a stand alone Blu. Of course I need a region free one for the main room first, so it might just be a while.

Not to mention my roommate is still using a SD TV/DVD/VCR combo in her room.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


Vinegar Syndrome's Half-Way to Black Friday Sale starts at midnight Eastern Standard Time tonight!

Vinegar Syndrome posted:

Tired of compulsively checking our website starting at 3AM on the morning of every sale? Sick of having to remember to buy our limited slipcover editions, only to realize that the one you were most excited for sold out last week? Well, we have the solution. You've heard about it, read about it, seen it on our site, and maybe even know someone who has it...but that person isn't you...until now!

The Halfway Package includes all of our upcoming releases between June and the end of the year, or just our Blu-ray releases between June and the end of the year. These packages range from $375-610, depending on your location and package type.

If you're not sure what the rest of the year, starting in June, has in store, here's a small taste: ALIEN ZONE, BODY MELT, DEAR DEAD DELILAH, DEAD COME HOME (DEAD DUDES IN THE HOUSE), and THE KILLING KIND!

Domestic US:
Completionist: $500 / Blu-ray only: $375

Canada:
Completionist: $580 / Blu-ray only: $455

Rest of World:
Completionist: $610 / Blu-ray only: $485

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


gey muckle mowser posted:

I would consider the halfway package if there was a way to just get their horror movie releases, I have zero interest in all the porn poo poo

thanks for the heads up, I'll probably pick up a few that I'm missing. anyone have any recommendations from their catalog? I already have Night Train to Terror, Christmas Evil, Jack Frost, Nightmare Sisters, and Hobgoblins. I've heard Liquid Sky is cool, might get that

My VS favorites that I've collected over the last ~18 months have been Luther the Geek, Petey Wheatstraw, Don't Answer the Phone, Psycho Cop Returns, Psychos in Love, Star Time, and Blue Vengeance.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


ultraviolence123 posted:

I'm sure I'll do another order before the end of the weekend.

Yeah, I snagged Pets and DDR, plus the half-way package, but the site was crashing and burning the whole time, so I'll wait until later to see what else I need. I might just wait for the next sales, when my finances will be a more forgiving of buying more movies.

The half-way package is totally worth it, I wish that they would do a first-half package on Black Friday since it's easier to swallow at that time of year than the full year package.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


I, Butthole posted:

Sure as the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, a blu-ray.com forum user had a meltdown about missing out on a VinSyn slipcase. The world still turns.

should have bought the yearly or half way package.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


TheScott2K posted:

I was certain they we're about to smash to "To Be Continued" when the trex roared into the horizon and the movie kept going.

Oh, hell, maybe even just end with the ship getting away with unknown dinosaurs on board, that's an even better sequel hook. But it yeah, TLW is case study of why less is more.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


I think I would definitely watch Transformers vs. Jurassic Park

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


Lizard Combatant posted:

Didn't they already make that? And it turns out the main robot was at Camelot or something? I'm basing this off a trailer I may have seen.

gently caress if I know, I stopped watching after the second transformers. I really just wanna see an allosaurs and giant robot punching each other in the face.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


I found the first Jurassic Park on Blu for $6 over the weekend, it's a decent enough blu-ray but it's hampered by the usual Universal disc bloat. After not having seen it in 10-15 years, and I think the seams are definitely starting to show. It's not that it doesn't still look good, especially considering how old it is, I can just now detect the CGI more than I did back in the day.

There were a few things I observed in my old man state though. First is it's very much a disaster movie, a lot of the plot that I remember being removed or changed from the book streamlines it as such.

This leads to the second observation, which is exactly how little you actually see of the dinosaurs. Most shots are distant with either a physical model when the actors are interacting, or the few close ups filling in for the limitations of the models.

I watched the Blu on Saturday evening, and turned off the PS4, only to see Jurassic Park; NBC was coincidentally also showing Jurassic Park that evening.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


Although the blu was on sale to hype the new movie I just thought it was an amusing coincidence. I did think that the OTA broadcast looked decent, but the picture seemed more despeckled than the picture the disc

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


Vinegar Syndrome just updated for July preorders:

- House of the Dead (A.K.A. Alien Zone)
- Buddies (recently covered on Junkfood Dinner)
- Liquied A$$ets
- 5 Films 5 Years Volume #3 (hardcore)
* Dracula Sucks
* Corporate Assets
* Vixens of Kung-Fu
* Tropic of Desire
* Baby Rosemary

- 5 Films 5 Years Volume #4 (exploitation and horror)
* Cry Wilderness
* Vampire Hookers
* Evil Come, Evil Go
* The Cut-Throats
* Teenage Seductress

- Showdown (DVD)

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


Teenage Fansub posted:

More 5 film VS packs? YESS!!

I tried the original erotic one during the last sale and I just can't hold much interest in watching a whole porno movie, as fun as they are and as neat as it is seeing that sleaze in beautiful 1080P.

I'll just stick with the exploitation this time.

edit: Cry Wilderness is a bit of a waste since everyone's probably seen it on the Netflix MST3K.

Since I've got the package where they just send me all their blu's every month, I get them all. I can definitely understand a lack of interest in the erotica sets, I'm not that invested in them, but I do find them interesting to look at.

I have found that the best time to watch them is about 6am on Saturday morning. I'll be hungover, half asleep, and I don't have to pay close attention, so I can go feed the cat, take a beer poo poo, make breakfast, etc.

Teenage Fansub posted:

edit: Cry Wilderness is a bit of a waste since everyone's probably seen it on the Netflix MST3K.

Not entirely, MST3K does edit their movies for time, so it might be a bit more "coherent." It does make me glad I didn't spring for it during the spring sale.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


long-rear end nips Diane posted:

When VS does their black friday year/6-month sales, do they have an option to not send you the porno or is it an all or nothing kind of thing?

Not at this point. It's not like they're sending one out every month either, last year there was only 7 of them, and this year it'll be 4 in July (or 6 to 14 depending on if/how you include the 5 movie sets).

I suspect that they use those bundles as a funding boost for the year, and that the farther out things are, the more difficult it is for them to pin down exactly what will be released and when. It's probably a lot easier for them to say they'll send you at least X number of Blus in the next year, than it is to predict what will be released more than what looks like 3 months out.

On top of all that they're apparently a small enough operation that they had to shut down their website for two weeks to ship out their orders from the Labor Day sale. That's not to say that they won't be persuaded to offer that option in the future if there's enough demand for it, but it doesn't seem likely at the moment.

My advice is, just email them and express your interest in a porno free option, they have great customer service.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


Egbert Souse posted:

Kino Lorber is releasing Cabin Boy on Sept 18

• New Audio Commentary by star Chris Elliott and director Adam Resnick
• New Interview with star Chris Elliott and director Adam Resnick
• Limited Edition booklet essay by film critic Nick Pinkerton (Blu-ray only)
• Archival cast & crew interviews featuring Chris Elliott, Ritch Brinkley, James Gammon, Brian Doyle-Murray, Brion James, Melora Walters, Russ Tamblyn, production designer Steven Legler and writer/director Adam Resnick
• B-Roll Footage
• Edited outtakes
• Newly commissioned art by Jacob Phillips
• 5 TV spots
• Limited Edition O-Card (Blu-ray only)
• Reversible Art
• Theatrical Trailer

Should I revisit Cabin Boy? I remember thinking it sucked when it first came out on VHS, but then again I was also 13 (for some reason I thought it was older than 1994)

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


Origami Dali posted:

All this color correction talk reminded me of the original TT release of NOTLD '90. Man, what a fuckup.

What did they do?

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


FancyMike posted:

Scream Factory just announced a new special edition of Creepshow out this October.
https://www.shoutfactory.com/product/creepshow-collector-s-edition?product_id=6868


Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003



I look at things like this and wonder, how at the end of the day someone looked at that and said, "yeah, that's good!"

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Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


TheScott2K posted:

I look at Superman 78 the same way I look at Atari - very hard to appreciate having not experienced the nothingness that existed beforehand.

The Wizard of Oz is the same way, and it must have been mind blowing at the time to walk into a movie, and suddenly it's in color.

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