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Jerusalem posted:Remind me, was it Aldo who responded to the IV ban with,"Well I'm just gonna do it anyway and they won't know I did it!" and he said this at a press conference? It was and it was awesome because the IV ban is dumb
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The IV ban is the first part of ending the insane weight cut cold war, unfortunately Johny Hendricks died in a proxy conflict
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Snowman_McK posted:It was and it was awesome because the IV ban is dumb Generally speaking it's good, weight cutting complicates the issue but it makes the anti doping fight a bit simpler because residue from drip bags and whatever else can be detected in the blood
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Triticum Guzzler posted:The IV ban is the first part of ending the insane weight cut cold war, unfortunately Johny Hendricks died in a proxy conflict Johnny Hendricks is back, Bart... in Welterweight form!
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I.N.R.I posted:Generally speaking it's good, weight cutting complicates the issue but it makes the anti doping fight a bit simpler because residue from drip bags and whatever else can be detected in the blood The problem is finding IV bag residue in someone doesn’t tell you if they were doping or not. And you won’t know if they’re diluting unless they still fail for banned compounds. IMO the only real benefit is to make it harder to make gigantic weight cuts. Fighters should get an arm equivalent of the fake dick for passing drug tests. The doc sticks the fake arm and pulls the fake blood.
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I.N.R.I posted:Generally speaking it's good, weight cutting complicates the issue but it makes the anti doping fight a bit simpler because residue from drip bags and whatever else can be detected in the blood Banning weight cutting is a good thing. Banning one thing that made it easier to do safely less so. It'd be like the NFL going 'well, we understand enormous people smashing into each other is dangerous, so we'll get rid of helmets. That way people will be less willing to smash into each other.' I mean, people here have stories about people still draining themselves for one day weigh ins in college wrestling. It's not an advantage people want to give up.
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tesilential posted:The problem is finding IV bag residue in someone doesn’t tell you if they were doping or not that's why a flat IV ban is good, then there's no reason for that to be in your blood without some kind of supporting medical evidence like a tue. there's no real reason to be injecting vitamins and supplements and stuff, they say it's more efficient than taking them orally but it's not necessary. you can also rehydrate normally, mouth style, again it's less efficient but as far as im aware its not impossible :P
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# ? May 4, 2018 12:58 |
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Regardless, I think when you're told that they are banned, the best course of action is not to go to a press conference and say into a mic,"I'm going to do it anyway, how will they ever know?" because I'm pretty sure they're gonna vaguely suspect something might be up after that.
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# ? May 4, 2018 13:00 |
Interesting Opinion, Mod.
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# ? May 4, 2018 13:04 |
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Jerusalem posted:Regardless, I think when you're told that they are banned, the best course of action is not to go to a press conference and say into a mic,"I'm going to do it anyway, how will they ever know?" because I'm pretty sure they're gonna vaguely suspect something might be up after that. Well, he never got caught. So...maybe he was right?
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oh no. little nog is able to fight again as of 24 april.
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# ? May 4, 2018 13:06 |
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Neurosis posted:oh no. little nog is able to fight again as of 24 april. I swear he'd retired. I know Big Nog did, and it was really nice to see him on the Fight Pass show being all smiley and hanging around other martial arts schools, finally able to walk again. Just on Fight Pass, does anyone know how to run the 24/7 stream on the apple TV app?
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Jerusalem posted:Regardless, I think when you're told that they are banned, the best course of action is not to go to a press conference and say into a mic,"I'm going to do it anyway, how will they ever know?" because I'm pretty sure they're gonna vaguely suspect something might be up after that. well, it's like nate diaz vaping or whatever after his fight with conor. even if you can see an athlete smoking a blunt its not really proof theyre smoking weed in anti doping terms, it needs to be found in their body. it would be bad for aldo to have said it if he did get caught doing it down the line though since it would come up in his appeals and stuff. but they wouldnt specifically target an athlete just for saying stuff like that, it costs a lot of money to test athletes and store samples so this kind of targeted testing is only done in the interests of public opinion or because the governing body of the sport asks for it
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# ? May 4, 2018 13:12 |
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Jose Aldo's famous 'gently caress the mods' tweet at a press conference.
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# ? May 4, 2018 13:13 |
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I can't wait for a future where PED's have been mostly phased out and some misguided youngster injects himself with microscopic pieces of IV bag hoping for an unfair advantage.
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The basic level of knowledge regular gym rats have about drug regimens and the trend towards developing therapeutic antibodies for relatively minor medical conditions is going to lead to some wild, wild poo poo in the next few years
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Triticum Guzzler posted:The basic level of knowledge regular gym rats have about drug regimens and the trend towards developing therapeutic antibodies for relatively minor medical conditions is going to lead to some wild, wild poo poo in the next few years High On Life, And Drugs: The Tim Sylvia Story
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# ? May 4, 2018 14:26 |
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Alright everyone, I finally got the thread up. Went with Ariel Bombardment in the end because anything that reminds us that Ariel is a dweeb is a good thing. Thread is here: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3855984
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