|
Rupert Buttermilk posted:Pisces Iscariot would've made a wonderful second disc to Siamese Dream, with a minimal amount of technical cleanup/additional mixing. It does make a solid counterpart, and has a pretty solid flow considering it was the defacto b-sides compilation for the Gish and SD material. There's a few things in the Mellon Collie era that sort of flirt with the shoegazey wall of sound he made with Siamese Dream, but for the most part that album just sounds like a 90's love note to arena rock. I enjoy it, but Corgan definitely wasn't looking to retread any territory. Some of the MCIS b-sides are stellar. I dig those covers he includes in the "Bullet" single, and everything on 1979 is gold. It doesn't come close to Pisces Iscariot, but what does? "Pistachio Medley" is still a dumb idea though.
|
#
?
Jun 11, 2018 15:18
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 24, 2024 14:25 |
|
|
I think my favourite b-side/demo/unfinished MCIS idea still is Phang. It's basic, but I absolutely love the chord progression in the 'chorus' of it (it's instrumental). It was my favourite from Pastichio Medley and was happy to hear more of it in the re-release. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mv5hXnaMQ8 Billy always had this way of taking simple riffs and turning them into something that just 'got' me. Same with the main riffs from Here's To the Atom Bomb' and 'Vanity'. He doesn't seem to do that anymore  He's still writing rock riffs, but not ones that have that emotional undertone to them.
|
|
#
?
Jun 11, 2018 15:26
|
|
|
yeah Pisces Iscariot has always been my second-favorite "album" of theirs. "Hello Kitty Kat" owns so hard.
|
|
#
?
Jun 12, 2018 10:45
|
|
|
Just listened to the single and the live version they played on Fallon last night: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8PYdpzhTY0 It's not the most memorable song, but it's not their worst either or anything. It's good to hear (most of) the band back together, at least. They sound more like they used to and that's a good thing. Jimmy Chamberlin's drums loving rule. I wish they were more up front in the mix, though. They sound great in the live version, but it's more of a problem on the studio version. And man, Billy Corgan's vocals sound loving horrible on this live version  But James Iha owns here. And here too:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRV1n00iga0 I largely tuned out of Pumpkins releases after Zeitgeist. I heard Oceania and Monuments to an Elegy once each probably and don't remember much about them. Never felt the urge to listen to them again. I legitimately think Zeitgeist was pretty good, though, and I still regularly listen to a handful of tracks from it (like United States and Bring The Light). I saw them at a festival in '07 on their Zeitgeist tour, too, which was pretty awesome: 
Rageaholic fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Jun 12, 2018 |
|
#
?
Jun 12, 2018 23:49
|
|
|
NME Live: Billy Corgan responds to D'Arcy Wretzky's claims that he 'has a brain tumour'. http://www.nme.com/news/music/billy...utm_content=nme Sorry for the quick link paste, but I'm on mobile (and at work). I don't necessarily want to believe Billy, or at least didn't want to automatically believe him, I was actually fairly on D'Arcy's side previously, but unless he's just flat out lying about everything, well... That doesn't come across very well for her. Also, I agree with what someone else said about how if he was lying, why are both James and Jimmy also going along with it?
|
|
#
?
Jun 13, 2018 16:30
|
|
|
Because from how I've been reading it, Billy isn't the one who is lying. Or at least, isn't the one trying to save face by stretching the truth. If what Billy says is true, then it was a unanimous agreement between the three of them to move on without her.
|
|
#
?
Jun 13, 2018 16:45
|
|
|
these guys are from England and who gives a poo poo. it's just a bunch of names that don't mean diddly poo poo! is how i feel about this news
|
|
#
?
Jun 13, 2018 18:20
|
|
|
hatelull posted:The Oceania stuff was boring as hell live. There were a few tours they did around that album, and I know for one of them the set list opened with a ton of new material and was not engaging at all. Maybe I was biased by not being super familiar with the new record back then, but even now it's one I rarely return to give a spin. Zeitgeist was a tire fire for sure, but at least that one song they were going to apparently melt faces with on the joint Manson tour sounded like it was going to be cool until they blew out the PA at our venue. United States loving crushes live. I mean Jimmy is a goddamn animal on the drums, but this also checks a bunch of other good boxes for me (long, loud, big fuzzy guitars, guitar break in the middle that is mostly feedback). I said this in some other version of this thread but I saw them on the tour for Zeitgeist and they played a loving 25 minute (not an exaggeration) cover of Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun and it was so, so, so bad and boring. Why not a 25 minute Silverfuck instead? This is a tough band to stick with through the years.
|
|
#
?
Jun 14, 2018 14:57
|
|
|
DirtyCheeseburgers posted:United States loving crushes live. I mean Jimmy is a goddamn animal on the drums, but this also checks a bunch of other good boxes for me (long, loud, big fuzzy guitars, guitar break in the middle that is mostly feedback). I saw them on one of the MCIS shows (post-Melvoin so Chamberlain was out at the time) and they did a mega version of "The Aeroplane looks left ..". That was pretty epic. I'd kill for a barnburner epic "Silverfuck" that they sort of play at on Viewphoria. Looks like they're doing "Stairway to Heaven" on this tour? At least that has some dynamic to it.
|
|
#
?
Jun 14, 2018 16:48
|
|
|
United States and Superchrist are both extremely good. Billy needs to jam out more instead of trying to poo poo out the next two minute rock single
|
|
#
?
Jun 15, 2018 03:15
|
|
|
I just love that Billy is the kind of guy who thinks naming things "Superchrist" is a good idea 
|
|
#
?
Jun 15, 2018 03:22
|
|
|
Current SP are literally worse than current Weezer.
|
|
#
?
Jun 15, 2018 05:44
|
|
|
I mean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3RO0UMsBss it's sort of a wash
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2018 18:27
|
|
|
Seaniqua posted:I mean Wow lovely pile of references song writing. Did Rivers decide to add Train to his pile of hyper deconstructed and worshipped bands?
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2018 19:37
|
|
|
Seaniqua posted:I mean oh my word. that's. that's real bad. i don't think Billy could make a song that bad if he tried.
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2018 20:20
|
|
|
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do3tSdZucyA well
|
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2018 19:43
|
|
|
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA i seriously can't stop laughing at this billy looks like late 80s genesis p-orridge and i'm not sure it isn't intentional
|
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2018 21:58
|
|
|
I think he's just embracing the fact that he's weird as hell.
|
|
#
?
Jun 30, 2018 00:28
|
|
|
I think that's the intent, but to me it seems more like classic "I'm trying super hard to be weird" Billy (basically Mellon Collie/Adore era) But it's charming, part of the band's appeal has always been his whole "I'm TRYING to be a ROCK STAR here, MOM!!!!"
|
|
#
?
Jun 30, 2018 01:42
|
|
|
Solara's growing on me as a song at any rate. I like it more than any other recent thing they've put out, but the presence of Billy, James, and Jimmy in the same room making room together is probably the reason for it.
|
|
#
?
Jun 30, 2018 02:14
|
|
|
I genuinely like Solara. And I really liked the video. It was a good combination of "Pumpkins quirkiness" and self awareness. Like they know they're lame when they try and be edgy, so they're embracing it.
|
|
#
?
Jun 30, 2018 04:22
|
|
|
It is definitely growing on me too. It's a legit good tune.
|
|
#
?
Jun 30, 2018 07:35
|
|
|
Is Billy trying really hard to look like Nosferatu or something? He did that for the Ava Adore video too and he just looks silly.
|
|
#
?
Jul 2, 2018 21:57
|
|
|
Matsuri posted:I think he's just embracing the fact that he's weird as hell.
|
|
#
?
Jul 2, 2018 22:16
|
|
|
Billy "the Silly" Corgan
|
|
#
?
Jul 3, 2018 02:50
|
|
|
that looks like a parody video someone in 2005 would make about the 90s
|
|
#
?
Jul 3, 2018 09:39
|
|
|
DeathSandwich posted:Is Billy trying really hard to look like Nosferatu or something? He did that for the Ava Adore video too and he just looks silly. His creepy on purpose shtick worked a lot better before he gained weight.
|
|
#
?
Jul 3, 2018 10:07
|
|
|
This is the most laughable rock video I've seen outside of "Tonga" Le Tongue. If you want to see the best example of a lovely rockstar aging gracelessly watch and listen to Solara. It's like Cartman grew up and formed a rock band, then aged terribly and is starring in David Brent: Life on the Road. I have to ask, do fans of the Smashing Pumpkins feel embarrassed for Billy Corgan? Do you feel Fremdschamen, or are embarrassed by your own fandom? The man's always been a trashfire.
|
|
#
?
Jul 5, 2018 08:54
|
|
|
Billy Corgan has always been adorably embarrassing and doofy. I mean, that's the good side of him. Better that than him being the rear end in a top hat who won't let half his band play on the record.
|
|
#
?
Jul 6, 2018 01:12
|
|
|
precision posted:Billy Corgan has always been adorably embarrassing and doofy. I mean, that's the good side of him. Better that than him being the rear end in a top hat who won't let half his band play on the record. It's true. Billy being a complete loving dork and melodramatic is Billy at his best. Way better than the conspiracy nutjob, trans hating Billy. I both admire and detest Billy. It's impressive.
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2018 02:56
|
|
|
Rupert Buttermilk posted:His creepy on purpose shtick worked a lot better before he gained weight. This is all I see when I look at him now 
|
|
#
?
Jul 15, 2018 14:46
|
|
|
There's been some videos taken of some of the shows now that the tour's started. The stage looks great and the music is spot on. 3 hours long with an overall great setlist. And ticket prices have dropped. The seat I was planning to buy for $99+fees is now $69+fees, and I can get a loving 6th row seat for $135. gently caress, man.
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2018 04:49
|
|
|
Some of the platinum seats were reduced to regular price so I upgraded to 2nd row in Toronto
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2018 04:15
|
|
|
Oops. Slept on it too long. Didn't get the seat. 
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2018 11:53
|
|
|
The Boston show was so undersold I got crazy good tickets on stubhub for $35. They sounded great and played for over 3 goddamn hours. And I didn't have to give Billy any money!
|
|
#
?
Aug 1, 2018 22:07
|
|
|
Is there a way to get tickets outside of using Ticketmaster? Their additional fees are loving criminal.
|
|
#
?
Aug 2, 2018 04:04
|
|
|
Matsuri posted:Is there a way to get tickets outside of using Ticketmaster? Their additional fees are loving criminal. You could always go to the venue's box office. Or go with Stubhub - it's still got fees, but I was able to grab lower bowl seats to the Tampa sho day-of for like $40 after service charges and everything.
|
|
#
?
Aug 2, 2018 23:30
|
|
|
Soooooo yeah. That show was really fuckin' good.
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2018 21:44
|
|
|
New single coming out Sept 13, new album, that apparently will be like Pisces ( ) coming sometime afterward. Album features Jimmy and James, all together for the first time since Machina!https://www.alternativenation.net/smashing-pumpkins-make-big-new-album-announcement-return-1994/
|
|
#
?
Aug 29, 2018 01:09
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 24, 2024 14:25 |
|
|
I’m seeing them on the 8th, which I would hope they did would maybe play the new single. Looking at it at the set list of other shows they have a pretty rigid list that they’re not straying from. I’m still incredibly excited though because it will be my first time seeing Jimmy and James in the band live. I only saw them on the Oceania tour and they were really good, so especially with Jimmy back I’m incredibly excited for next weekend.
|
|
#
?
Aug 29, 2018 14:04
|
|
