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A hearty welcome to: Buffalo Ottawa Arizona Montreal Detroit Vancouver Chicago Rangers Edmonton Islanders Carolina Calgary Dallas St Louis Florida THESE TEAMS COULDN'T GET PAST ROUND 1 Los Angeles Kings (Killed by: Anaheim Ducks (Killed by: Minnesota Wild (killed by: New Jersey Devils (killed by: Philadelphia Flyers (killed by: Colorado Avalanche (killed by: Columbus Blue Jackets (killed by: Toronto Maple Leafs (killed by: ROUND 2 LOSERS: Boston Bruins (killed by: San Jose Sharks (killed by: Pittsburgh Penguins (killed by: Nashville Predators (killed by: SO CLOSE YET SO FAR (conference finals): Winnipeg Jets (killed by: Tampa Bay Lightning (killed by: SNATCHED AWAY (Finals): Vegas Golden Knights (Killed by: iospace fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Jun 8, 2018 |
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"St Lous"
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Apr 8, 2018 14:44
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it is good that the rangers fell behind edmonton (but gently caress the blackhawks) and that av is fired. i like sheldon keefe and i'd like to hire him however i also want the team to be total garbage for at least one season assuming we draft at 8th i am hoping one of the following players is available (assuming dahlin/svechnikov/zadina is locked in as top 3), in order of how much i would like to draft them: boqvist wahlstrom hughes bouchard tkachuk of course i would like even more than that for the rangers to win the lottery and get dahlin but i won't hold my breath there. i really hope that the rangers don't draft joe veleno, who i think is an nhl player for sure but not a scorer at the nhl level
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Apr 8, 2018 14:45
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From the other thread:Levitate posted:I don't think he's getting fired just for this season. They had two straight disappointing playoff losses, especially that one against Ottawa, and the issues the Rangers have had have continued to get worse. Some of that is personnel change and yeah I think they have taken a step or two backwards in talent, but I dunno man you're basically saying "AV is the best coach in the league and can't fail, only be failed!" when you say no one else could possibly do as well and by the way all of the Rangers problems are not his fault at all. So just to be clear I do not think AV is the best coach in the league, but I do think he’s a good coach and I don’t know who you’re bringing in that’s an upgrade on him.
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Apr 8, 2018 14:46
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I’m not sure either, I swear I read a tweet from someone saying the Rangers wanted to hire a coach that would grow with the team so they presumably aren’t aiming to just jump right back into contention next year and are willing to gamble a bit on a young coach.
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Apr 8, 2018 14:55
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you're in a rebuild. you bring in a coach that has a reputation for being good with player development. the knock on AV everywhere he's ever been is that he is bad at this, and he was bad at it with the rangers. i think he's a good coach for a team with an established core. the rangers don't have that anymore. he had a good run here but very few coaches last 5 years with one team, and there's a reason for that. methods get stale.
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Apr 8, 2018 14:55
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Jovial Cow posted:From the other thread: He's a good coach for a team ready to compete. He's a garbage coach for a team full of young players.
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Apr 8, 2018 14:56
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Hey hi gently caress Jim Benning
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Apr 8, 2018 15:05
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a false posted:you're in a rebuild. you bring in a coach that has a reputation for being good with player development. the knock on AV everywhere he's ever been is that he is bad at this, and he was bad at it with the rangers. Matt Zerella posted:He's a good coach for a team ready to compete. He's a garbage coach for a team full of young players. See this is the narrative I think is overblown a bit. I think it’s safe to say everywhere AV has been has been a major market and he’s had a mandate to win. Sure AV would move promising kids down the lineup but that’s because I think he was in win now mode with all of those teams. This would be the first time I can think of where AV is running a team in true rebuild mode. I bet he would have no problems at all playing the kids, and I think extrapolating him being garbage at managing kids because he moved younger players down the lineup on veteran teams is a fallacy.
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Apr 8, 2018 15:05
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Jovial Cow posted:Sure AV would move promising kids down the lineup but that’s because I think he was in win now mode with all of those teams. the problem with this line of thinking is that the promising kids would have given us a better chance to win now than the ones that he elevated over them and he did not recognize that
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Apr 8, 2018 15:11
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a false posted:the problem with this line of thinking is that the promising kids would have given us a better chance to win now than the ones that he elevated over them and he did not recognize that Wouldn’t you agree that this is something literally every single fan base in SAS can give you an example of for their team? Jovial Cow fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Apr 8, 2018 |
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Apr 8, 2018 15:13
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“Yes, yes, without a doubt,” Vigneault said. “I think my staff is the right staff for this job. I think, and this is just my opinion, but I think one of the strongest assets of this organization is its coaching staff and their experience. We’ve been able to do it with veteran players, we’ve been able to do it with younger players. Our development record — and our record, wins and losses — you know what, it’s pretty good, with young and older players.”
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Apr 8, 2018 15:14
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I think AV was fine with developing players with the Rangers, but that was with a lot of vets and a different team goal. He is notoriously lax as a locker room leader and prefers his players to police themselves and I think that’s a bad idea on a young rebuilding team that’s nothing like the vet teams he’s developed players with in the past
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Apr 8, 2018 15:37
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I'm so loving happy Buchnevich is free from AV.
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Apr 8, 2018 15:38
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Jovial Cow posted:Wouldn’t you agree that this is something literally every single fan base in SAS can give you an example of for their team? no? i don't think fans of, for example, toronto, boston, tampa, nj, or columbus have had any major complaints about the internal handling of their youth in recent years. as i said before, i think vigneault is a good coach and i think he'll succeed elsewhere, but at this time he was not right for this team. he could win the cup next year and i would not regret firing him
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Apr 8, 2018 15:38
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Matt Zerella posted:I'm so loving happy Buchnevich is free from AV. 
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Apr 8, 2018 15:39
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TITTIEKISSER69 posted:"St Lous" Yes, we do thank St. Lou Malnati's patron saint of Deep Dish that Chicago was both able to beat the Blues and not mess up their own tank.
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Apr 8, 2018 15:41
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Fire Chia. I'd say fire McLellan but I don't really see anyone better available as a coach and there's only so much you can do with a poo poo roster
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Apr 8, 2018 15:42
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Where does Pavel Buchnevich rank among Rangers skaters in even strength time on ice? 26th (12:17) * Among forwards? 14th Rank in total time on ice? 21st (15:01) Points? 4th (43) *Matt Beleskey played more in the one game he played.
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Apr 8, 2018 15:59
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the edmonton oilers will win the nhl draft lottery
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Apr 8, 2018 16:06
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Ottawa was a horrible trainwreck all season, but that's ok because they finished second last in the league and... have a 61% chance to draft 4th or 5th. Stupid Buffalo and Edmonton ruining the lottery for every other tanking team.
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Apr 8, 2018 16:17
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Zodijackylite posted:
And there it loving is. Adios rear end in a top hat.
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Apr 8, 2018 16:23
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JawKnee posted:Hey hi gently caress Jim Benning Yes fits posted:the edmonton oilers will win the nhl draft lottery No
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Apr 8, 2018 16:23
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The Duchene trade ending with Colorado making the playoffs and Ottawa finishing 2nd last is one of the more delightful things in a season with a lot of competition.
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Apr 8, 2018 16:24
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fire ken holland
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Apr 8, 2018 16:53
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Matt Zerella posted:And there it loving is. Adios rear end in a top hat. 
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Apr 8, 2018 16:54
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fits posted:the edmonton oilers will win the nhl draft lottery no, and also, gently caress off
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Apr 8, 2018 16:55
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looking forward to buffalo not picking 1st again because the league is dumb as poo poo
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Apr 8, 2018 17:03
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Fire Bergevin Also the habs will drop in the lottery and gently caress up the pick anyways
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Apr 8, 2018 17:04
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Pathetic end to the season for the Blues. Hopefully Robert Thomas and Jordan Kyrou make the opening day roster.
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Apr 8, 2018 17:04
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Flyers will most likely get the 14th pick in the draft. That's pretty cool. I'll put of a draft thread after the lotto. AV got canned, how many other coaches are on the hot seat?
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Apr 8, 2018 17:15
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And in case you missed it, there's a cool thing going on over here and you might want to participate.
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Apr 8, 2018 17:23
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fits posted:the detroit ken hollands will win the nhl draft lottery
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Apr 8, 2018 17:38
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Fire Bergevin.
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Apr 8, 2018 17:47
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Thank loving god it's over
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Apr 8, 2018 17:55
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It is such a strange, sweet relief that the Montréal Canadiens are not playing hockey for 6 months.
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Apr 8, 2018 17:59
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Rangers have never had a first overall, right? I don't think Calgary, Dallas, Arizona, or Vancouver have either. I think everyone else in the lottery has done it before.
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Apr 8, 2018 18:19
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Hand Knit posted:The Duchene trade ending with Colorado making the playoffs and Ottawa finishing 2nd last is one of the more delightful things in a season with a lot of competition. Hey he went from dead last to second to last. That's progress.
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Apr 8, 2018 18:25
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Ginette Reno posted:Rangers have never had a first overall, right? I don't think Calgary, Dallas, Arizona, or Vancouver have either. Calgary's 1st rounder was traded in the Hamonic deal and isn't lottery protected lmao
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Yaya posted:Calgary's 1st rounder was traded in the Hamonic deal and isn't lottery protected lmao lol. I think St. Louis also doesn't have their first from the Schenn deal but I think they lottery protected it so they keep it if it's top 10.
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