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Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017



Darth Walrus posted:

I did always find it a little weird that they decided to make their Tony Stark both the nicest and the evilest-looking modern incarnation of the character. I mean, does this face say 'mild-mannered nerd' to you?

I've never considered Tony mild-mannered, really.

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Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything




Fun Shoe

Neo_Crimson posted:

I thought that was David Xanatos from Gargoyles for a second.

Same.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

I may not be as cute as the other girls, but I'm the best at arm wrestling!


Alaois posted:

how

what

the gently caress

late reply on this but imagine having to make 16-26 pages of a comic, a week, for over a decade, with maybe two weeks off a year.

even with manga being black/white and even with kubo's art getting simpler thats an insanely tall order.



Here's the schedule of Hiroshi Shiibashi, the author of Nura: Rise of the Yokai Clan, from when his series was running in jump. Even if you've never heard of Nura it doesn't really matter, it's a decent example. Heck, it actually might make this a lighter schedule, since Nura only ran for 4 years and he wouldn't have had constant meetings with editors to make sure one of their flagship series was doing well.

Two hours of sleep on Monday, only 3 hours of free time a week, obviously skipping meals. Even if you don't count the meetings or him touching base with his assistants this is literally a 100 hour work week.

It's why I cut pretty much any weekly manga author some slack for wonky story developments or their art getting simpler. If Kubo refusing to draw backgrounds got him an extra hour of sleep a day, the dude earned it.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

D U S T M A N


Endorph posted:

late reply on this but imagine having to make 16-26 pages of a comic, a week, for over a decade, with maybe two weeks off a year.

even with manga being black/white and even with kubo's art getting simpler thats an insanely tall order.



Here's the schedule of Hiroshi Shiibashi, the author of Nura: Rise of the Yokai Clan, from when his series was running in jump. Even if you've never heard of Nura it doesn't really matter, it's a decent example. Heck, it actually might make this a lighter schedule, since Nura only ran for 4 years and he wouldn't have had constant meetings with editors to make sure one of their flagship series was doing well.

Two hours of sleep on Monday, only 3 hours of free time a week, obviously skipping meals. Even if you don't count the meetings or him touching base with his assistants this is literally a 100 hour work week.

It's why I cut pretty much any weekly manga author some slack for wonky story developments or their art getting simpler. If Kubo refusing to draw backgrounds got him an extra hour of sleep a day, the dude earned it.

i didn't know there were more of those images, i've only ever seen the Oda one

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

I may not be as cute as the other girls, but I'm the best at arm wrestling!


Alaois posted:

i didn't know there were more of those images, i've only ever seen the Oda one
There's a few of these floating around. I think one author dropped their schedule anonymously and a few other people followed suit, and then Oda was asked about his schedule and he just gave it. Not like Jump can do anything to him. So a few other authors followed suit without hiding who they were, since they could always point to Oda as an example of someone who was allowed to.

IIRC Araki, the JoJo's author, also talked about how much happier he was on a monthly schedule. And if nothing else his art improved by leaps and bounds once JoJo's switched to a monthly schedule.

SgtSteel91
Oct 21, 2010



JustaDamnFool posted:

Your right, Newspaper Spiderman is the best superhero media produced in the last 20 years.

Reading this, I immediately remembered one Spider-Man storyline where some vampire dude was killing every Spider-Man in every dimension. And he goes to Newspaper Spider-Man, but the panels keep going at a snails pace, so the villain says “gently caress this” and leaves

JordanKai
Aug 19, 2011

Get high and think of me.




Endorph posted:

IIRC Araki, the JoJo's author, also talked about how much happier he was on a monthly schedule. And if nothing else his art improved by leaps and bounds once JoJo's switched to a monthly schedule.

I can't imagine wanting to do a weekly manga series as a solo artist and writer. Monthly work or a duo undertaking simply seems so much more appealing. I suppose it's so culturally ingrained as the default mangaka model that a lot of people go for it anyway.

Vinland Saga is another manga that improved tremendously after the leap from weekly to monthly publication. It seems to be a good move for both the health of an author and the health of a series in general.

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?



Endorph posted:

IIRC Araki, the JoJo's author, also talked about how much happier he was on a monthly schedule. And if nothing else his art improved by leaps and bounds once JoJo's switched to a monthly schedule.

For context on the art especially, a little into Steel Ball Run down at the bottom is when Araki changed from a weekly to monthly magazine and you can absolutely notice.



Also I always love that late Phantom Blood, Jonathan really did just turn into vampire slayer Kenshiro.

And 4/Diamond Is Unbreakable went through the most major style swaps in one part probably, but to me it also got one of the most pleasing styles in general when it had it's own unique one in the more mid point there. The style morphs are also pretty funny to watch happen, when it started off carrying a lot of that Brick Von Bicep super chiseled physicality from 1-2-3, then over time turned so much softer, cuter and way more balanced out, you had stuff like Hazamada being built like a brick shithouse at first, to becoming this little shortie reformed weirdo.

Yardbomb fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Aug 12, 2020

Alacron
Feb 15, 2007

-->Have tearful reunion with your son
-->Eh

Fun Shoe

Spy X Family has been on a biweekly schedule since it started and has been consistently excellent and I wish publishers would learn from this.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017



SgtSteel91 posted:

Reading this, I immediately remembered one Spider-Man storyline where some vampire dude was killing every Spider-Man in every dimension. And he goes to Newspaper Spider-Man, but the panels keep going at a snails pace, so the villain says “gently caress this” and leaves

Yeah, that's from Spider-Verse.

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

....?


Endorph posted:

late reply on this but imagine having to make 16-26 pages of a comic, a week, for over a decade, with maybe two weeks off a year.

even with manga being black/white and even with kubo's art getting simpler thats an insanely tall order.



Here's the schedule of Hiroshi Shiibashi, the author of Nura: Rise of the Yokai Clan, from when his series was running in jump. Even if you've never heard of Nura it doesn't really matter, it's a decent example. Heck, it actually might make this a lighter schedule, since Nura only ran for 4 years and he wouldn't have had constant meetings with editors to make sure one of their flagship series was doing well.

Two hours of sleep on Monday, only 3 hours of free time a week, obviously skipping meals. Even if you don't count the meetings or him touching base with his assistants this is literally a 100 hour work week.

It's why I cut pretty much any weekly manga author some slack for wonky story developments or their art getting simpler. If Kubo refusing to draw backgrounds got him an extra hour of sleep a day, the dude earned it.

It's stuff like this that also demonstrates why major American publishers will split the workload up on the comic-making process and still avoid doing weekly comics because holy poo poo is it a nightmare. DC's 52 series was the best attempt at a sprawling weekly comic and it had three writers pulling it together. The main artist on the series made a joke about wanting to hang himself at the end of it rather than do more.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

I may not be as cute as the other girls, but I'm the best at arm wrestling!


dont worry they also overwork their artists/writers

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

....?


Endorph posted:

dont worry they also overwork their artists/writers

I'm not saying they don't or that they're not exploitative as poo poo in other ways. I'm saying even in the hellscape that is semi-mainstream American comic publication, weekly comics are an extra level of horror they can't get anyone to commit to.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012


Darth Walrus posted:

I did always find it a little weird that they decided to make their Tony Stark both the nicest and the evilest-looking modern incarnation of the character. I mean, does this face say 'mild-mannered nerd' to you?



pretty sure this was a villain on batman beyond

Paladin
Nov 26, 2004
You lost today, kid. But that doesn't mean you have to like it.




Groovelord Neato posted:

How come America doesn't really have the equivalent of mangaka.

While not a direct answer to the question, I think David Hajdu's Ten-Cent Plague does a good job of explaining how mainstream comics in the US went from widely varied in many genres to the big two superhero publishers and Archie.

BigRed0427
Mar 22, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.



Paladin posted:

While not a direct answer to the question, I think David Hajdu's Ten-Cent Plague does a good job of explaining how mainstream comics in the US went from widely varied in many genres to the big two superhero publishers and Archie.

The short answer is gay/moral panic and media consolidation over decades.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Shitposting 24/7 without regrets. my parents would be proud.


Darth Walrus posted:

I did always find it a little weird that they decided to make their Tony Stark both the nicest and the evilest-looking modern incarnation of the character. I mean, does this face say 'mild-mannered nerd' to you?



i mean tony was always at nicest a smug douche with a heart of somewhat gold. but that made him better than reed i guess.

Max Wilco
Jan 22, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

Augus posted:

the most recent thing he's getting poo poo for is this

https://twitter.com/QueenInYeIIow/s...565696941719552

(the left tweet is from only a year ago)

https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/st...284740057821186
https://twitter.com/thinkimreal/sta...425370251710464

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cqHtGb9WYM

Antifa Turkeesian
Aug 20, 2006



Broken Cake


Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

I may not be as cute as the other girls, but I'm the best at arm wrestling!


a lineup of three people where moviebob manages the most sensible and coherent political take is wild

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."



Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



What's that even supposed to be

Why don't Americans just act normally

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?



I wish blocking people on twitter made it so that links to their posts elsewhere just posted like, a butt or something infinitely more palatable instead.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another rainy day commute





If the comic was accurate then Hillary ascending would mean bombs pointed down at brown people, not arrows pointed up towards the sky.

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

....?


I think that 69 lb, 4 ft tall plush Quinton bought may have had a dire curse cast on it

https://twitter.com/Q_Review/status/1293651096502755328

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Shitposting 24/7 without regrets. my parents would be proud.



thats a weirdly not awful take from bob. hmm. broken clock and such.


what the gently caress is this horrors.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."


Dapper_Swindler posted:

what the gently caress is this horrors.
Just one page in an 11-part series

Hel
Oct 9, 2012

Jokatgulm is tedium.
Jokatgulm is pain.
Jokatgulm is suffering.



Kim Justice posted:

What's that even supposed to be

Why don't Americans just act normally

I'll never understand the way Americans treat their politicians. But then again they keep deifying the founding fathers who were also garbage people, so not surprising they would just keep doing that.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

D U S T M A N


people always talk about how america deifies its founding fathers but england literally invented a mythological superhuman godking as their founding father

Jamie Faith
Jan 13, 2020

Y2K girl


Cosmonaut Marcus' new video celebrating his channel reaching 1 million subscribers is up! Its another "worst superhero movies of all time" vid on AquaMan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnGRjwAst7o&t=494s

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

Success!



Alaois posted:

people always talk about how america deifies its founding fathers but england literally invented a mythological superhuman godking as their founding father
tony blair was a very real person.

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?



I devote absolute zero brainspace to remembering the existence of the founding fathers most days.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013



Jamie Faith posted:

Cosmonaut Marcus' new video celebrating his channel reaching 1 million subscribers is up! Its another "worst superhero movies of all time" vid on AquaMan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnGRjwAst7o&t=494s

Without watching I think this is the worst review of all time.

Why it’s sucks: Aquaman rules

Beefstew
Oct 30, 2010

I told you that story so I could tell you this one...


CelticPredator posted:

Without watching I think this is the worst review of all time.

Why it’s sucks: Aquaman rules

Watch the video.

Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.




I'm trying to imagine what the famous Cioccolata fight and beatdown from JJBA would look like if it was made by Rooster Teeth instead of David Production. This thought has nothing to do with anything, I just think it's fun to dunk on RWBY and Rooster Teeth after remembering Hbomberguy's video.

Clip-On Fedora
Feb 20, 2011




Ghostlight posted:

tony blair was a very real person.

I thought he was a Vertigo comic book character, like Margaret Thatcher.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012






Inspector Gesicht posted:

I'm trying to imagine what the famous Cioccolata fight and beatdown from JJBA would look like if it was made by Rooster Teeth instead of David Production. This thought has nothing to do with anything, I just think it's fun to dunk on RWBY and Rooster Teeth after remembering Hbomberguy's video.

Probably a cross between a bad Dragon Ball Super episode and that Marvel Avengers game but with less impact somehow.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017



Atun-Shei Films graces us with another CHECKMATE, LINCOLNITES this time regarding General Sherman and war crimes.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012


the only people who give a poo poo about king arthur these days are the people jacking off to the anime girl version invented for a porn game

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Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014




Dapper_Swindler posted:

thats a weirdly not awful take from bob. hmm. broken clock and such.

Yeah I'm surprised Film Robert wasn't a Harris supporter. Probably a Pete head so he can be equally obnoxious.

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