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Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



Asuron posted:

Caught up on all the CA drama and it's quite something.


I always thought CA's role as an aggregator was over like 4-5 years ago, so it's a bit weird that the mass exodus is only starting now. Hell I'm surprised people still visited the website. I mean what was there to even gain by being affiliated with it instead of just striking out on youtube which is what most people ended up doing anyway?

As I understand it, with Youtube, people are reliant on its questionable algorithms to gain publicity. If you canít get the site to start recommending your videos, nobody will see them and thus your channel wonít take off. Itís a cycle that forces people to either focus on clickbait subjects or languish in obscurity.

I believe that a place like Channel Awesome, if properly managed, could still be a way for content creators to build their viewer base. Give it a user-friendly design with features that Youtube lacks (such as an index with a detailed description of each show), and it could be very successful. I know I discovered most of the critics I still watch today via seeing them on CA first, or having someone mention them in the past incarnation of this thread. This hypothetical aggregator site could also do what CA tried to do and serve as a form of quality control and a reliable brand name, so that only people whose videos were at least decent were allowed to be members, which would in turn encourage visitors to check out lesser-known producers.

Bakeneko fucked around with this message at 14:36 on Apr 10, 2018

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Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



Iíve just read that disgusting joke of a response from Mike andÖ wow. I feel the need to repeat my comment from a while ago about Mike being a shittier and shittier person every time I hear about him.

Itís hilarious that, even when heís trying to provide evidence to back up his claims, he still canít get it right because it doesnít say what he thinks it says:

Mike Michaud posted:

ACCUSATION Ė Jane Doe accuses us of knowing about a ďsexual deviantĒ for over a year (Page 66).

FACT Ė The screen shot below clearly demonstrates the time elapsed from being made aware of the individual in question (name redacted for legal reasons) and the time the content partner was released from Channel Awesome Ė 3 weeks, not over a year. During the 3 week period, we consulted a lawyer and waited to see if anyone would come directly to us, as our only knowledge of this was second hand.

It is obvious the person who came forward with this in the Not So Awesome document wants their name protected, so we will continue to do so.

Except, if you look at the chat log in question, in no way does it ďclearly demonstrateĒ that this was the first time they were hearing about the allegations. All it proves is that they were discussing the situation in January 2013 before they finally resolved a month later to kick the guy out. Frankly, from the way itís worded it sounds more like a last straw situation and that they had dealt with similar complaints before.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



Ugh. This poo poo just keeps getting worse and worse

It had briefly occurred to me that it might be him, but then I thought he had left the site in 2014, shortly before he died. Apparently not.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



Lightning Knight posted:

This isn't actually how military organizations work. He doesn't need to know poo poo. There's a reason that the movie, while it stupidly waffles on whether or not he or the admiral lady is right, comes down on her side by having Leia, the embodiment of moral rightness in the film, taze the poo poo out of Po for being an rear end in a top hat.

Itís a resistance movement, though, not an army. You canít expect a group of mostly untrained volunteers to all have that level of discipline. Theyíre fighting against the First Order because they donít want to live in a totalitarian society where authority must never be questioned.

I think it was a bad decision on Holdoís part to withhold that information, but treating Poe in such a condescending way made it worse. Not only in-universe, but from the audienceís perspective as well, since he was a well-liked character from the previous movie and she was a total newcomer.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



I remember those. Noahís Island was definitely a lot weirder, with its defrosted mammoths and volcano engines, compared to Farthing Woodís being relatively grounded in reality. That took a lot of the charm away from it, although I guess I still liked it as a kid because it was so unusual to have a cartoon with an ongoing plot, rather than just a series of self-contained episodes.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



ACES CURE PLANES posted:

Yeah, oh man, that crazy rose twitter



They're really just so ridiculous, aren't they?



I mean, what kind of crazy rear end in a top hat could look at our current way of life and how we treat the poor and disenfranchised and think, "Man, our current economic system is on the wrong path, and is violently anti-human"



Those silly millenials really need to get their heads out of the clouds and realize that the corporate executives are our friends, and should be supported.



Really, they're all just so lazy and entitled.



Thankfully we don't have any major issues threatening to destabilize the world or anything, so they'll have plenty of time to sit back and calmly grow older and settle down into a respectable centrist lifestyle.



Showing examples of bad people on the other side (and potted plants for some reason) does not negate the existence of bad people on your side. They arenít as prominent because, unlike the right-wingers, they hold no real power in the US and are normally limited to just making GBS threads all over Tumblr and Twitter, but crazy/stupid leftists do exist.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



Leal posted:

I know what the plants thing is, its spikes that are put around areas to ensure that homeless people don't sleep there.

In that case, it seems like it would be completely ineffectual on top of everything else. If someone is willing to sleep on a hard stone bench, theyíd probably also be willing to sleep on the ground, so really it's just a pointless nuisance.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



The one thing I dislike about Bennett is how much he hates subtitles. He seems to think they ruin a show by distracting you from the animation, and heíll always whine about it on the rare occasions where he has to review something that doesnít have a dub.

Other than that weird hang-up, though, heís a talented guy who always seems to have something interesting and funny to say even if heís talking about some rightfully-obscure garbage. Iím someone who didnít start watching anime regularly until the mid-2000s, so I appreciate the insight he gives into the era of anime culture that I missed out on.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



Itís unfortunate that he isnít making longer videos about mainstream movies, because itís satisfying seeing him take on stuff like After Earth that got a lot of undue praise and hype. Still, his Cool Cat and Fateful Findings reviews are fun in their own way because those movies are just so full of hilariously stupid poo poo just waiting to be laughed at. Same with his Pokťmon riffs.

The recent trend in internet reviewing may be away from comedy and towards Serious Analysisô, but Iíll always appreciate a critic who can make me laugh while tearing a piece of bad media to shreds.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



In terms of what critic makes me laugh the most, it would have to be Phelous. He has the rare gift of being able to turn almost any material into comedy gold, even some random cartoon from the 60s that nobodyís ever heard of. I originally found out about him through, of course, tgwtg back when he was on there, although it took me a while before I gave his videos a chance because I saw he was covering horror movies and I donít tend to like those. Once I did, I was hooked, especially after he switched over to mostly reviewing bad cartoons.

In terms of what critic I think is most insightful, it could only be Chuck from Sfdebris. Heís one of the rare critics whose politics almost always align with my own and he seems to have a wealth of information about almost any subject, as well as an ability to convey that information in an engaging way. He worked as a teacher apparently before he started reviewing full-time, and it shows. I can't exactly remember where I first heard about him because I've been a fan of his from long before his tgwtg days, but I think someone on SA linked to one of his videos during a discussion about bad Voyager episodes and I ended up watching all of the ones he had made at the time.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



Mischalaniouse posted:

These are some of my favorite games ever made and I really wish more RPGs and games in general were willing to be more experimental like the SaGa series.

The first jrpg I ever played, and one of the first games I ever played period was one of these. Theyíd called it Final Fantasy Legend 3, although its real name was SaGa 3: JikŻ no Hasha. I still credit it with getting me into the genre, and the remake they did on the DS was amazing, even though that was only available through a fan translation.

Speaking of which, video game remakes certainly seem to have a better track record than their movie counterparts. Although they still donít always work out. Another classic game from my childhood, Secret of Mana, got remade recently and it was alright, but also kind of disappointing with how little they changed besides the graphics. The original version of SoM was notorious for being rushed and having a lot of stuff cut out, so it was a shame they got so lazy with the remake rather than doing what the SaGa 3 people did and adding in a lot of the extra stuff they originally couldnít because of the cartridge limitations.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



BrianWilly posted:

I like Rogue One a grand deal more than TLJ to be honest

Rogue One is my current favorite of the Disney-era Star Wars films. I wasnít expecting much out of it considering the franchiseís track record with prequels, but it really surprised me.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



I don't think his silence implies anything beyond not wanting to get involved in the drama. Isn't he personal friends with the Walkers?

In any case, I've been watching his stuff for years and I'll continue to do so.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



Those endless kidnap scenes were just the absolute worst. It takes a lot to make me dislike an open world game but Far Cry 5 managed it with that railroading bullshit. And then it tops it all off with one of the worst endings Iíve ever seen in a game: You beat the cult leader but before you can finish him off, his remaining followers detonate a nuke and blow up the entire valley. Then he escapes in the chaos and kidnaps you again. Roll credits. Itís a shame because I was really enjoying the gameplay outside of those story sequences.

There seems to be a lot of confusion over what exact political message it was trying to send, but my view is that it shouldnít have been expected to send one at all. Itís a story about a doomsday cult and the small group of people banding together to fight them. The villains were never meant to represent Trump any more than the villains of the previous two games were meant to represent real people or factions in Indonesia or Nepal. The second game was an anomaly in that its plot was specifically tied to Africa and its political situation, but the rest of the series is all about putting the player up against hammy, insane villains who donít represent anything more than insanity itself. Like I said, I think FC5ís story was terrible, but not because of its message or lack thereof.

Iíd like it if Far Cry went back to being pure sci-fi for its next installment. Maybe not as over-the-top as Blood Dragon, but something that would let them play around with lots of cool gadgets and weapons. I just hope that, whatever it is, you get to have a big cat as a pet because that was my favorite part of both 5 and Primal.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



Huh. I did not know that.

Iím tempted to wonder what kind of psycho god would appoint a guy like that as a prophet, but this is the Far Cry universe weíre talking about, so that does seem to fit.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



Junpei Hyde posted:

Far Cry 5 looks like a fun game to play that I would forget immediately after finishing

Yeah, pretty much. I played it two weeks ago and the only characters whose names I can remember off the top of my head are the cat and the bear.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



Not to defend Jon or anything because I know he has some genuinely awful opinions, but arresting someone for making a dumb video on Youtube is ridiculous. They might as well start arresting anyone who has ever played a Nazi in a movie because Iím sure those roles all require them to say all sorts of horrible poo poo while in-character.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



cosmically_cosmic posted:

I believe that was the crime he was arrested for, 'making a stupid video on youtube' with nothing else related to it.


EDITED FOR BITCHINESS: I find that a very misleading and bad-faith argument, considering how spurious the connection is between a recording of someone doing something, and an artificial performance.

Are you going to make the same argument that actors who play murderers are going to get arrested for it? Because that's about as logical to me.

Well they somehow interpreted the content of the video as ďhate speechĒ, even though it was obviously just a joke (albeit one in poor taste). I was making the point that what he was doing was no different from someone saying a hateful line as part of a movie script; they're both done insincerely, for the sake of a performance, and do not reflect any actual hateful intent. That's why it's crazy to arrest someone for it.

Bakeneko fucked around with this message at 13:18 on May 12, 2018

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



Thereís no rule saying what anyone is and isnít allowed to write about, and I donít think IHE meant to imply otherwise. The thing is, though, that the further removed a story is from your own experiences, the more research you need to do to make it believable. Itís the same as if you were writing a film set in a country you havenít lived in, or about a profession you arenít a part of. The Fine Brothers just werenít willing to make that extra effort, or they didnít realize they needed to.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



As someone who loved the original show as a kid, I canít help but be a bit depressed about this. It was about as dark and serious as an 80s kids show could get, and now theyíre turning it into just another generic wacky hijinks series because apparently they think kids are too fragile to handle even a little darkness. Even though everything from Batman the Animated Series to Samurai Jack to Avatar seems to demonstrate the exact opposite.

And am I the only one who absolutely cannot stand that bean-face art style regardless of what show itís being used in? It just looks so lazy and ugly.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



Yeah, thereís always going to be good stuff around if you know where to look. A lot of the things we regard as classics now were actually kind of obscure back in the day. Who knows which of todayís shows will be remembered in another twenty years once all the trend-hopping crap gets forgotten?

This discussion has reminded me that I should check out the Voltron remake at some point.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



I hadnít played the old games and I was still horribly disappointed by Thief 4. I went into it expecting something like Dishonored, and it ended up feeling like a cheap knockoff of that game.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



I think there are a couple of different reasons for why fanfic is seen as so low-quality, and neither of them have to do with their being anything inherently wrong with the concept.

Firstly, thereís the fact that fanfic is a convenient crutch for lazy writers who donít want to bother coming up with their own characters and ideas, and this laziness results in poor writing overall. Iím not saying all fanfic authors are like this, but those writers who do fit this description tend to gravitate towards fanfic because a lot of the hard work has been done for them, including building up an audience. Likewise, when a writer gains more experience and develops their skills, theyíll naturally move towards showing off those skills by creating their own original works, thus graduating from fanfic just as they stop sucking.

I donít personally understand this mindset, by the way. Iíve always wanted to write but the whole point of it was to tell by own story, not someone elseís. My first attempt at writing a novel turned out to be a steaming pile of crap but at least I can look back on it and say it was my steaming pile of crap.

Secondly, although this is related to the first idea, fans who arenít mature enough to really understand a work tend to make a lot of mistakes when adapting it, turning it into a distorted version of itself. Characters behave wildly out of character, disliked plot points in the original are clumsily retconned, the themes and subtext are ignored or overturned and so on. The heart and soul of the work, whatever made it popular in the first place, is gone. Even other fans might not like it if it doesnít pander to their own interpretation of the original. A normal story has a lot of freedom but a fanfic is always going to be constrained by the limits of the original as well as being contrasted against it, which is more than what most inexperienced writers can handle.

Note the focus on ďinexperiencedĒ writers here. These problems arenít insurmountable, which is why professionals can get away with stuff thatís technically fanfiction, but it takes a specific skillset to do it right. And thatís on top of the skills every writer already needs. These clueless people posting their poo poo on Deviantart are like someone who has never ridden a bicycle before trying to enter the Tour de France.

On a related note, The Dom recently posted a review of a terrible Harry Potter fan film. I was very wary going into this because heís in his stupid gimmick persona, but it wasnít overly distracting this time and I was amused by the fact that this basically turned the review itself into a terrible Harry Potter fan film.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



Her keeping everyone in the dark felt like a flimsy excuse to keep the viewers in the dark. Itís a big pet peeve of mine in fiction when characters keep secrets from one another for no in-universe reason, because the writer doesnít want to spoil some sort of dramatic reveal.

I liked the movie, including the casino sidequest and the Luke stuff, but that bit of forced tension was a low point for me.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



I played the Legend of the Five Rings RPG for a while and I noticed the exact same thing. Rokugan was depicted as this completely awful place run by religious zealots who spent most of their time plotting against and killing one another when they werenít busy abusing the peasants, but they were technically the good guys because there was always some sort of demonic invasion happening.

Age of Empires was fun for me back in the day, but I was never very good at it because it was too fast-paced. In multiplayer you were up against people who could time their strategies to the second, and if you couldnít do likewise there was no way of beating them. I ended up mostly just dicking around in the editor making my own little adventure game scenarios.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



Ema Nymton posted:

This weekend I watched some reviews by Bobsheaux having not really heard of him before. I liked some of his reviews but I can't seem to get beyond his... cringe factor. He seems arrogant, does the "angrily screaming at movie" thing a lot, and integrates his furry lifestyle into his videos. I do not need commentary from his furry bird girlfriend's fursona nor references to yiffing nor cutaway gags to furry art.

Am I being a kink-shaming bitch to feel this way?

Heís always struck me as an ďokayĒ critic. Not great, but not bad. As with most critics his videos would be a lot better if he didnít try to play a character and act out skits, but the parts where heís just talking about the movies are entertaining enough. The furry stuff isÖ weird, and not to my taste, but I didnít find it unwatchably annoying like I do with Linkaraís action-hero thing or Contraís arguments with herself.

There's no shame in not liking his stuff, though, no matter the reason. The only way you would be kink-shaming is if you went out of your way to insult him over it, eg. by leaving nasty messages in his comments section.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



stillvisions posted:

Part of me wonders if our demand for book-depth in our movies (or in some cases movies adapted from books) means people want more background when none was ever needed before, and movie execs are happy to fill in that gap with whatever connects the dots.

Is this just a modern film development? Did anyone really care that much that Obi Wan's life story was barely explained in Star Wars when it came out? I mean, the average comic book origin story back in the 80's and before took approximately one page, not an entire movie's worth of material.

Are we as audiences just less satisfied with filling the gaps on a character's life ourselves now? Or are we okay with that as long as it's not pointed out, but movies are happy to cash in on those anyway? I'm one to generally shrug at best on prequels or continuing stories that already felt completed, but that's me.

It could be to do with the fact that audiences have become more aware of popular character archetypes and clichťs than they were in the past. Advancements like cable TV, VHS and later the internet gave us increasingly larger pools of movies to choose from, meaning it was easier to recognize when the same type of character would show up over and over again. This made people more likely to wonder ďwhat makes this one different from all the rest?Ē when they saw something they were familiar with, hence the demand for a more detailed backstory. Writers are aware of this as well, so theyíre also becoming more eager to make their creations distinct.

That might explain the increased interest, anyway. As for why studios are so eager to make prequels, itís more likely that theyíre just wanting to exploit reliable brand names to make a quick buck.

Bakeneko fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Jun 6, 2018

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



Itís a shame more RPGs don't do what Dragon Age: Origins did and give you a choice of opening acts. That would at least give you some variety even if they all merge together later on.

Looking at Fallout 3 as an example, would it really have been so difficult to offer different starting scenarios, even if they all have to stick to the lame follow-your-father plotline? The vault more or less gets forgotten after you leave it, save for that one sidequest where you go back and then get exiled again. The only important plot point is that your father raised you before he ran off; he could have done so in Megaton or on an isolated farm or practically anywhere and the result would have been the same. It would have been fun to be able to start at a bunch of different places, each with their own quest lines that eventually lead to you getting sent in the direction of the radio station.

But alas, something like that would have required effort on the part of the quest designers and not even Bioware seems capable of that these days.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



Wrageowrapper posted:

Three Arrows, along with the voices of Shaun and Harvey the Bomberman, dunks on Black Pigeon Speaks for his continued stupidity and thinly veiled nazism apologia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbLzVZysFyM

I appreciate the Arthur Schopenhauer quote because, not only is it true, itís applicable to so much more than just nationalism. It fits basically any sort of group identity that a person can become fixated on, from race or gender to even something as trivial as being a gamer or a Star Wars fan. Whenever you see someone complaining about poseurs ďruiningĒ their precious hobby, theyíre likely doing so because they have nothing else in their lives worth taking any sort of pride in.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007




Well, yeah. Itís based on a tabletop game from the 80s so of course itís going to look like an 80s retro-future, and of course elements of the genre that were once new are going to seem generic after all this time. The real question is whether theyíll be able to take this stock setting and tell an interesting story in it, and CDPR have an excellent track record in that regard.

KayTee posted:

Noel's House Party was the poo poo. (For very young me, anyway.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_JzVjx7VXU

Now thereís a blast from the past. I ended up watching a lot of Noelís House Party, but it wasnít the sort of thing I would intentionally seek out. Itís more that there was nothing else on, and it aired right before that Superman show on the same channel so it was a fun way of killing time.

Looking back on it, Blobby seems to have been a primordial example of the sort of thing that would end up going viral on the internet. It was stupid, but in an ironic way where the stupidity was the point of the joke.

Also, Blobby seems to have had his share of unironic fans as well. One time, (and I swear Iím not making this up) a kid in my primary school class drew several pages of Mr. Blobby fanart for a class assignment. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Bakeneko fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Jun 11, 2018

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



business hammocks posted:

If anyone followed the Cracked youtube channel, Maggie Mae Fish from those quasi-critical media chat shows has struck out on her own as a genuine critic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ0nAkXOkMs

Where did she get the idea that we were supposed to identify with Thanos or think his actions were in any way justified? Yeah, the film explains how he justifies them to himself but that only serves to demonstrate what a monster he is. Weíre not meant to see him as a role model.

Bakeneko fucked around with this message at 08:30 on Jun 13, 2018

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



Conal Cochran posted:

His reviews show how this narrow focus on logistics in movies results in an approach to film that's less about understanding and connecting to it on an emotional and thematic level and more about proving your intellectual superiority over the movie and the people who enjoyed it; That when you're so focused on the technical stuff rather than the actual humanity of the piece, you're kind of missing the whole art part of art.

Iíve noticed this as well and I think itís because heís involved in filmmaking himself, so he tends to be far more aware of the kind of minor technical mistakes that a normal viewer would miss. Itís sort of like a chef being very picky about the food he eats because he can tell when a certain ingredient is undercooked or whatever.

That said, I still watch all of his videos because I really like his style of comedy, and because his insight into the behind-the-scenes aspects of filmmaking can be interesting.

Can't say I hatewatch any critics these days, but there was a time when I would watch the occasional Nostalgia Critic episode just to cringe at it. Nowadays he's not worth subjecting myself to even for that.

Bakeneko fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Jun 14, 2018

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



nine-gear crow posted:

Racist manchild incel Star Wars fans publically bullied Kelly Marie Tran (Rose Tico) off the internet (and Daisey Ridley before her) with a co-ordinated campaign of horrifyingly racist and sexist harassment and rape/death threats in the name of making Star Wars white and male again.

So now the media has been reporting on it and Star Wars is kind of slowly becoming That Thing All The Racist Kids Like in public cultural perception because the screeching racist incel manchildren have become the loudest voices in the room thanks to The Last Jedi breaking their brains so completely.

Itís still not really in the public consciousness though, no matter how big a shitstorm it was within geek circles. The vast majority of people have little to no idea this whole thing even happened and see Star Wars as ďthose fun sci-fi movies that come out every year or soĒ. Heck, even people who know about it are more likely to just see those troublemakers for what they are; a small number of loudmouthed assholes, not representative of everyone who watches the films.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



The original Teen Titans had a lot of wackiness in it, but it also had enough serious stuff to qualify as an action/comedy. Go is pure comedy, or at least thatís what it tries to be.

There were also a couple of direct-to-dvd movies made, which I would recommend checking out if you want something a bit closer to Batman: TAS in tone.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



Iím glad Iím not the only one that was hoping for more modern AC stuff. Theyíve spent so long building up this three-way conflict between the Assassins, Templars and Juno that itís hard to imagine them resolving it without spending a lot of time in the present at some point.

Although, thereís a scene in Origins that suggests the possibility of building an animus that can actually send someone back in time, Quantum Leap style, rather than just into a simulation. If they built on this and had the player facing off against other time-travelers that could be a way of having the modern and historical plotlines intersect in a way that wasnít possible before. It would probably be an unpopular idea amongst fans that want purely historical games, but Iíd like it.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



Neddy Seagoon posted:

What scene was that? Also given the way Odyssey is being described, it might very well be this.

Itís a part of the sixth vault sequence:

quote:

The Animus was humankindís first unconscious attempt to explain what it could not see. Understanding genetic memories, an eye into history.

But the Animus bears a fatal flaw. It follows the rules from those who embrace Order just as we did. It allows you to witness Ė but not alter.

Your Animus is different. As is the mind that imagined it. It could escape the code. It could do that leap. And make possible a decision that defies the order of things that are.

Wake up.
Be the chaos that comes to be. Gods are just like you and me.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



So is Boogie even aware that the effort to legalize gay marriage was already a very long and hard-fought thing by the time the law was passed? He seems to think it just came out of nowhere one day and surprised everyone. Yeah, affecting real social change is a slow process but thereís no reason to add even more time onto a generations-long struggle just to appease some spiteful fundamentalists.

Iím all for giving both sides of a conflict a chance to make their case, but that only applies when both sides are prepared to back up their positions with logic. You canít do that with the anti-gay-marriage camp because their position isnít based on logic but on their warped religious beliefs.

Max Wilco posted:

The problem I see is that if you were to shame Boogie, or present most anything the thread's said about him so far directly to him, it might not necessarily pull him back towards the left.

The issue seems less like, "let's be civil to the people who oppose us" and more so, "let's be civil to the people who are undecided or in the middle so that we don't push them further away."

I would generally agree with this, but as others have pointed out I donít think Boogie can really be called undecided at this point. If he really was neutral and didnít want to get involved, heíd do exactly that and just not say anything. As it is, heís said some very stupid things lately and he deserves to get called out for doing so.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



Gorn Myson posted:

Actually lets go back; what possible benefit could a gaming YouTuber in his mid 40s bring to the left?

Someone with four and a half million subscribers could probably help with getting your message out. In theory, anyway. Thereís no way Boogie would actually do it.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



Video game storytelling has come a long way, but it'll always need to make concessions to the fact that it's still a game and games rely on, among other things, a lot of repetition. A movie like Indiana Jones may last a couple of hours, but a game has to last a lot longer than that and most of that time needs to be comprised of gameplay. The extra time also allows for the gradual increase in difficulty, which is an important gameplay element, and which also requires that the player be given oppertunity to practice to hone their skills. All of which means that if you're designing a game focused on shooting mechanics, there needs to be a lot of shooting going on in order for that to work.

RareAcumen posted:

Personally, I don't think anything in a game that I do that doesn't get mentioned in a cutscene actually happens but that's just me.

This is basically how I interpret turn-based combat in RPGs, among many other silly-sounding things in games. The characters aren't really politely waiting for each other to finish their attacks- that's just an abstract representation of what's actually going on. Nor are they really running around in circles fighting identical groups of enemies in order to level grind.

Bakeneko fucked around with this message at 09:42 on Jul 2, 2018

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Terrible Opinions posted:

It is, but that does not negate my previous statement. Like the worst of this is Mother's Basement who finds a way to love almost every single show no matter how boring or subtextually horrible it is.
Not as much as he seems to love money, considering the amount of product placement he shoves into his videos. I watch his videos because he does sometimes have something insightful to say, but Iím so sick about hearing about Book Locker every single time.

achillesforever6 posted:

Imagine if we could live in a world without bullshit copyright laws so they don't have to purposely butcher the names out of fear of being sued out of oblivion

Itís bad enough when they do this with obvious references like Killer Queen, but then they have to do it to ones like Echoes as well. Itís just an ordinary word! Theyíre not gonna be able to sue over that!

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