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Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



Well, from the looks of the list of the most prolific posters on the last thread and the known producer who's highest on it...I perhaps ought to stop procrastinating on here too much and make more vids instead lol (I guess Lupa's on there too but lol, she ain't got poo poo on me on that list)

Couple of things, randomly:

-That JewWario thing there...that's icky. I really don't like Justin being invoked for anything like this (or really anything at all), it's way too far. There's only one person who can respond and confirm/deny anything like that, and he isn't here to do it. One of my great regrets as a producer is never getting to know him.

-Larry has his reasons for staying on, which he did explain to me and I respect utterly. In the end it comes down to not having the sort of relationship (or indeed ANY relationship really) with CA's higher ups, and kinda feeling that if he jumped on it'd feel like he was just jumping on a bandwagon and riding on coattails - it's not really his fight in the end as much as it is other people's. He's never been a particularly major part of the site as much as he's just been...y'know, there. You wouldn't even really think of him as a CA contributor at all, especially in the past couple of years since he started Fact Hunt and really got cooking again on YouTube.

(Obviously disclosure in that, y'know, he's a friend of mine and we do a whole bunch of vids together and all that but don't be mad at him or anyone else who chooses to stay. Stay angry at the management for creating an atmosphere in which, over the past couple of years, well over forty people have chosen to leave)

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Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



Yeah, like if he doesn't have any training or anything he's probably not going to take any kind of bump at all - I'd be pretty shocked if he did. Which is fine - a thirtysomething games journo with a lousy back is probably not expected to be moving around like AJ Styles. Good on him for having fun with this.

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



First they came for Foursquare and I did not speak up

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



drat IT DOUG, WE'RE NOT LOSING ENOUGH SUBSCRIBERS, BRING ME MY LAPTOP

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



I've just heard they're apparently planning a video response too...because the text one's gone down SO well.

All the management nous learnt from being a store clerk is really on show, innit

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



There's nothing that can really be added to this, I'm just in shock.

Unspeakably horrific.

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



There's nothing better for sticking to the bitter end than sheer British bloody mindedness and the desire for maximum schadenfreude.

Like jeez, CA managed to piss off the one guy who literally gets on with everybody

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



WHY BONER NOW posted:

He's also recently unretired his video game critic show, so I guess ghost chasing didn't pay the bills? I'm going to make myself stop typing now. I got most of this information from the irate gamer sucks blog, which I check in on from time to time. I know it's pretty pathetic to read a blog dedicated to hating on someone, but I can't help it. Irate Gamer is so captivating to me; so fascinating. I can't look away. If nothing else, it's a bit of a respite from the Channel Awesome drama, which just makes be feel bad

There's always room for laughing at figures such as Chris and (in my case) DSP, as it's mostly just laughing at sheer incompetence. DSP will always be the very greatest of the lolcows.

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



Even if, let's face it, things like Tamara's Never Seen are viewed by about 3 people each time...yeah, NC is more than big enough to support the YT channel on his own. Indeed, considering that the site is now just a raging fire and flashpoint for the brand's complete and total collapse, binning the site and sticking solely to the YouTube channel (with a rebrand, perhaps) would by this point be the smart thing to do.

Which is why it won't happen

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



Mel Mudkiper posted:

I constantly feel guilty for following DSP stuff but then a new mrhuth video pops up and I cannot help myself

I'm just imagining DSP running CA right now to be honest

WHAAAAAT, WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO? It's not my fault! I was BLOCKING them on Twitter! How did they release the log? I DIDN'T DO THAT! The loving scrubs CHEATED! ACK-ACK-ACK-ACK *snort*

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



At this point I'm just part of everyone egging Larry on to beat Brad. It's like an underdog winning the Royal Rumble and it would be a great thing to happen on Rusev Day

I also made a poll

https://twitter.com/KimxxxJustice/s...623288050765824

The results are currently as expected

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



CelticPredator posted:

Itís basically fear of the fansí retaliation. If you take down an admired figure, people are going to defend them. Hard. The idea that this person they love and admire is actually pretty bad is something that really messes with some people.

And some people will get nasty about it.

Hard to break out of the first stage of grief...and few were as loved and admired as he was as one of the most positive figures in the whole community, especially after his death. Not more than a few days ago I said that I regretted never having a chance to know him...that's not aged well.

Perfectly understandable why it took so long for it to come out really...I mean, people have invoked Savile comparisons (although Jimmy Savile turned out to basically be the very ultimate in terrible) but even in his case, people made jokes and poo poo about his proclivities so much when he was alive that the big cover up seems so obvious in retrospect - the surprise wasn't so much that he did bad poo poo, it was how incredible in scope the bad poo poo was. Making accusations about JewWario following his passing must have felt more akin to trying to take down Mr. Rogers.

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



Alaois posted:

EVEN DURING ALL THIS

EVEN DURING ALL THIS

WE STILL FIND TIME TO ARGUE ABOUT loving STAR WARS

Dude, this is really loving horrible for some people. Kindly let them come down for a space and talk about other things in the thread if they need to.

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



I think that lornekates' removal from modding this forum is an absolute disgrace. He was doing a fine job of moderating this forum, and for some loving admin who has no connection to here at all to just remove him like that is an utter joke.

gently caress this stupid board.

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



Wew lad

My suggestion for moderator is Puppy Time, if they want it. Augus is also a good shout

Definitely don't make it a creator, we procrastinate enough on here as is (and yeah...conflict of interests n' poo poo)

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



Hope you all like Oasis, lol. Finally this beast is rendering...

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



SatansBestBuddy posted:

... the band? are you branching out into music reviews?

Yeah the band. And yeah, though this is more a docu on one of their albums

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



If I was mod I'd mandate that at least one person would have to post this every day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLDIsaZ6VLU

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



There's also Black Nerd, of course.

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



Guru Larry'a Twitter Profile posted:

Retro Gaming YouTuber, Comedian & Champion of the first annual Channel Awesome Hunger Games.

Love this man

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



Kinda wondering if there's truth to the rumours that Doug is waiting to jump

How have I made 20 posts in the thread already when I barely remember 2

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



business hammocks posted:

He seems like the rare human who actually would be really motivated to criticize computer magazines for a lack of rigor and maybe not pick up on the hordeís real motives until a few weeks later.

That's mostly true tbh, especially when such things as games mags historically sucking are in his wheelhouse (and mine tbh) he didn't say much about it after the early days.

Larry isn't so much a "both sides have their extremes" person as he is a "just not terribly political at all" person.

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



Max Wilco posted:

From what little I've seen from videos by people like Larry and Ashens, it seems like UK game magazines had way worse problems than I recall US magazines ever having. The one that stands out was that video Ashens did on Renegade 3, where magazines gave it glowing reviews, when in reality, the game barely functioned.

Oh yes, plenty of that sort of thing - not that it's UK specific at all, you can be sure many US mags are guilty cause hey, games journalism is mostly pretty poo poo and publishers do carry a hell of a lot of sway over some folk who are afraid of giving games a bad score lest the pubs pull ads. Thus, the kicker: Yes, there are major ethical issues in games journalism. Like, all the way across the board. The actions of chuds obfuscated that alas.

If you want a fine historic UK example, check out the history of the great Amiga Power and see how many companies they utterly pissed off (Team17, Ocean, US Gold just to name three) for having the temerity to actually use a 0-100% scale properly (as in giving mediocre games 50% instead of 70%).

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



Wow, that whole thing appears to be a complete and total clusterfuck. The sort of thing that does way more harm than good.

Anyway, don't watch that! Watch this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bYsDGkR_Ks

Kim Justice fucked around with this message at 07:38 on Apr 16, 2018

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



DoctorWhat posted:

Only a deranged lunatic would be jealous of Dizzy the Egg when we had Super Mario Bros within a couple years of the crash.

You "had" it no more than we did, Mario and most of the platformers of the time you love are Japanese and the majority of American efforts were frankly just as shite as any of ours

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



Inspector Gesicht posted:

Apparently Guru Larry outlasted Doug Walker? Found out a minute ago.

If this is true, then...well, may as well just shut the whole thing up. Nothing CA is going to be able to go on without Doug. Should just sell it to Larry for a dollar.

somekindofguy posted:

Finally, gently caress theycallmedsp.

Lol, has Phil done/said anything new or is this just general?

EDIT: I notice that he says he was offered a spot at CA but didn't get it because he got banned from blip (for making jokes about beating up Jews while playing Dead Space for some unknown/baffling/unfunny reason, which obviously he doesn't mention). I don't think he's actually bullshitting if I remember my DSP lore correctly, but still gently caress DSP always

Kim Justice fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Apr 16, 2018

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



A new Jon Bois thing where he and someone else get all nerdy about sports stats called "Dorktown" that's "Like Chart Party but both better and worse". Here they look at Shaq and see what would have happened if he'd missed all 11,252 of his free throws:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioDskqAHOrI

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



Groovelord Neato posted:

my fave jon bois moment:



Followed up next year by, inevitably:

https://twitter.com/jon_bois/status/960351740527771648

ACES CURE PLANES posted:

I dunno how to feel about the new Jon Bois segment. I think I like Jon the most when it's just him, whenever someone who isn't Jon is talking my interest just drops to zero.

Just have Jon commentate everything solo in his slightly bored, semi-monotone voice, and I'll watch it. Hell, he doesn't even have to do the charts, I'd listen to him ramble about things to himself in a podcast forever.

I think that Card Show was really fun purely for the subject matter, not too sure about this one yet. It's not the usual super high Jon Bois level but then there's not many who can match him.

Still worth the 95% of videos from SB Nation on my feed that I will never watch for the 5% that are done by him

Kim Justice fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Apr 16, 2018

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



Let's just leave wild allegations out of the thread, not much good has ever come from it.

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



somekindofguy posted:

As I have said before, I can't get the stench off.

On topic, I had my first real exposure to Report of the Week reviewing a Garlic White Cheddar burger from McDonald's. He's...disappointed in it. Couldn't even get all the ingredients right. Food porn it is not. He seems nice though.

Any other food reviewers worth following, or is it all basically people in cars?

There is only Reviewbrah. No others even come close.

Probably the other two main ones are Joey's World Tour and Daym Drops. Joey is very goofy indeed and that can be funny, but unfortunately he films himself taking massive bites of fast food in an unsettling extreme close up that's frankly utterly gross and will probably make you want to puke. Daym Drops is funnier, but nothing compares to the sheer class and thoroughness of Reviewbrah when it comes to the latest items from the chains.

Of course if you want people who review things a lot nicer than Fast Food, then there's some absolutely fantastic food/travel channels: Mark Wiens, The Food Ranger, Strictly Dumpling, Simon and Martina. These guys go all over the world and eat some proper grouse grub - you get everything from street food to awesome buffets to some real fine dining. Also Sean in the Wild on First We Feast - these are top of the class and frankly what I spend a whole lot of my time on YouTube watching.

But really let's face it, obviously none of these compare to DSP Tries It.

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



That Chicken vid is very good though, if you need some quick motivation for a 5k

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



Jon Bois working for SB Nation is kind of like if instead of LA Galaxy having a 36 year old and kinda banged up but still pretty good Zlatan Ibrahimovic, they had Zlatan Ibrahimovic in his prime. His videos are that good, and his writing is even better. Obviously you go ahead and try to build your whole team around that but his style can't be repeated.

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



So glad we don't have a moderator right now

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



Meanwhile, in news of older creators who actually move with the times, AVGN joins an ever-growing list of creators who are releasing on Amazon Prime Video before YouTube with the first episode of his new season (it's Earthbound, and at 39 mins it's one of his longest in ages):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU7OcFBjNgc

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



Has Contra done something for her to be brought up?

MovieBob is a complete arsehole.
Zinnia Jones is also a complete arsehole.
Shaun is cool

As far as "engaging TERFs" go...well, here in the UK the line from folks who are at the top of the trans community in the UK has been to try and not engage with TERFs as much as possible. This has really helped out tons because now TERFs have seriously infected the Labour Party as well as having a significant presence in press outlets like The Times, so I dunno - maybe more engagement would have been good to have a counter to their retrograde views?

It really doesn't work to just stick your head in the sand and think that "Oh all this is just going to go away"

EDIT: Also, I dunno...how big is the alt-right right now? Like, I don't really know. It felt like that awful night in Charlottesville was their high watermark, back when Steve Bannon was still riding high in the White House. Then he fell out of favour, got scurried the gently caress out of there and we're right back to typical Republican neoconservatism. You see pictures tweeted of Richard Spencer giving talks where the audience is of about a dozen people in which half are guaranteed to be there to document/hatewatch him, other reports of groups falling into and eating themselves, and the "discourse/debate" scene on YouTube and the like has degenerated into "Internet bloodsports" which is nothing but shoutfests and reading out superchats in a style that's basically seven levels down from Jerry Springer. Alex Jones is now shouting and screaming at Trump on Infowars...like, what's the actual state of play for them in 2018? It doesn't look good from where I'm standing (which admittedly is over an ocean).

Kim Justice fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Apr 18, 2018

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



Yardbomb posted:

It wouldn't have, you don't ignore them, you actively shut them out.

Trouble is shutting them out isn't what we did here in the UK, we ignored them. It's hard to shut them out now when they're climbing up the walls. :\

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



CharlestheHammer posted:

Thatís.....dumber.

Turns out I gave her to much credit.

Clearly you've not seen any of the current Internet Bloodsports, because that's exactly how these people see themselves.

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



I'm still confused about how we suddenly got onto Contra when this started with MovieBob saying another dumb thing

Contra is one of the best YouTubers and is very anti bad things/pro good things

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



Jesus christ, gently caress off Aces Cure Planes.

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Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



ACES CURE PLANES posted:

Aww, I was waiting for your rousing blow by blow comeback on why all of those things are in fact good and cool and it's in fact those horrible socialists who are bad because something something tankies and *centrist talking point*.

It's not like I even disagree with half of the sentiments you have there or anything, you're just a loving twat with a ridiculous axe to grind who can't even remotely be reasoned with and anything remotely outside of your own points of view is completely haram.

You just talk poo poo, mate.

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