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I'd be surprised if like, a character dies or something. I'd imagine the most tragic way for this show to end would be the whole "love OR work but not both" dichotomy of D-Piloting not being resolved and only continuing to be enforced through the next generation of pilots, and that's a pretty sad thing in its own right.
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I'm hoping that hoshino and... The guy make up, because it's not like you need to keep piloting after you've guided the elder dragon to its place, right?
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Jun 18, 2018 21:16
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C'mon, the Binden is totally getting eaten. Like, properly eaten.
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Jun 20, 2018 10:52
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Raxivace posted:I'd be surprised if like, a character dies or something. Welp.
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Jun 21, 2018 17:48
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The ED is almost disturbing with no vocals.
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Jun 23, 2018 07:45
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Caphi posted:Welp.  Sindai posted:The ED is almost disturbing with no vocals.
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I was wondering if they'd go there with Sada's backstory, and I'm glad they actually did. Also, Caphi posted:Welp. Lemon-Lime fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Jun 23, 2018 |
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Jun 23, 2018 20:50
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wow that wasn't a surprise, but this show is really good
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Jun 24, 2018 00:15
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Sindai posted:The ED is almost disturbing with no vocals.
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Jun 24, 2018 07:19
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Aaah that ep ending. This show is good as hell. Do we have any idea when this'll finally land on Netflix?
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Jun 24, 2018 11:16
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Very excited to see how this ends. I loved Hisone's powerslide apology.
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Jun 24, 2018 23:37
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Spicy grandma's gonna join her girlfriend.
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Jun 25, 2018 00:13
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Slightly weird that the show was all about not choosing between things you love but has basically forgotten fighter pilot girl's career goal. Overall cute and fun show, would watch on Netflix after it's finished airing.
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Caphi posted:Slightly weird that the show was all about not choosing between things you love but has basically forgotten fighter pilot girl's career goal. TBF, she can still be a fighter pilot. She just needed to recognise that she’s now lots of other things as well, and those are also worth being.
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Jun 28, 2018 19:24
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I love this show to bits but that ending felt unfulfilling and I really didn't like the "I suppose we could be gently caress buddies" line.
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Jul 1, 2018 23:33
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FauxLeather posted:I love this show to bits but that ending felt unfulfilling and I really didn't like the "I suppose we could be gently caress buddies" line. She said that because he did. But yeah I kinda agree about the unfulfilling ending. Really thought Joie would sacrifice herself to be with her Yae-chan, but apparently not.
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Zeruel posted:She said that because he did. I know. Shrugged it off as a clumsy and overly direct way of expressing forgiveness but it just felt overly vulgar and out of character for her (when sober). This isn't a hill I'd die on though the line just kinda disappointed me.
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Excluding the lovely guy getting a happy ending I thought that was really good except the last last scene felt a little underwhelming. Overall, excellent show
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Yea, shaky landing, but a landing nevertheless. Great VAs and characters, fun concept, cute dragons, fresh art style/aesthetic, but the writing and plot and tempo dragged this down. Can't give it more than 8/10, but well earned.
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One of those shows that didn't really need its big dramatic overarching plot. I think the character comedy in the middle was the best part of the show.
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That was... anticlimactic. I guess over the years of watching anime I've grown inured to so many of the shows having less than great endings. Still rather sad, though.
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Anime is the Stephen King of mediums.
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FauxLeather posted:I really didn't like the "I suppose we could be gently caress buddies" line. It's her way of saying she likes him without actually admitting it because she's too proud, and his immediate reaction is to confirm that he didn't mean that in earnest when he said it to her, I didn't really see the problem with it. I thought that was a good ending. Iiboshi gets humbled, Hisone saves the day and comes back, and no one dies in the end, not even Sada.
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It was a good ending, but the wrapping up of Hisone and Masotan escaping was lacking. How did they escape? Does it matter, ultimately, when the point is that they did what no one thought was possible? Not necessarily. But I think either they should have explained how, shown how, or not have it delayed three months. So if its just that they COULD because they tried because they decided to not give up anything they loved, that's fine, but they should have shown up the next day. If they only got out just then because Haru showed up with the cellphones, show Masoton bursting out of the rock ground or something like that. Saying "they just could, but only after three months" feels cheap, where saying "they just could" or "it needed the things the two of them loves (Haru and cellphones) at the same time" both feel earned, but it isn't clear at all which one was why. I don't know that's my  written after being up for 21 hours
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I agree, not a perfect ending. In particular, Mitatsu-sama as a plot device felt contrived and poorly fleshed out. Everyone is super convinced that somebody has to be sacrificed in order to stop some giant dragon from destroying Japan, but it's never explained why that dragon needs a sacrifice, or why it has to be a Shinto ritual, or exactly how Mitatsu-sama is going to destroy Japan. Up until the halfway point (Hisone's "Who decided that!?" speech in particular), I was sure it was going in a much more drastic direction, in which they outright reject Mitatsu-sama and his dumb, outdated ways. The fact that they went for some generic hero-sacrifices-self plot beat instead went against the theme they seemed to be going for. Anyway, more words once I've had some time to think about this.
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I enjoyed this series and will be happy to watch many episodes of it again, though perhaps not the whole thing again. The show really was at its best when it was laid back doing goofy things with its goofy characters, in hindsight choosing to have a larger plot may have been a mistake. This is the sort of show where I hope they dump out another episode with the BD release where absolutely nothing important happens.
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Araki posted:I agree, not a perfect ending. In particular, Mitatsu-sama as a plot device felt contrived and poorly fleshed out. Everyone is super convinced that somebody has to be sacrificed in order to stop some giant dragon from destroying Japan, but it's never explained why that dragon needs a sacrifice, or why it has to be a Shinto ritual, or exactly how Mitatsu-sama is going to destroy Japan. Up until the halfway point (Hisone's "Who decided that!?" speech in particular), I was sure it was going in a much more drastic direction, in which they outright reject Mitatsu-sama and his dumb, outdated ways. The fact that they went for some generic hero-sacrifices-self plot beat instead went against the theme they seemed to be going for. I think the thing that bugged me most of all was that they even acknowledged that it didn't have to be the Chosen Priestess who stuck the knife in the pool, so as far as I could tell they could easily just have set up a machine to do it remotely or on a timer or something and avoided the whole human sacrifice bit entirely.
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To be fair, the only way to experiment and see if all the Shinto ritual stuff isn't required will kill thousands of people if it turns out it was.
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Jul 2, 2018 16:43
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Sindai posted:To be fair, the only way to experiment and see if all the Shinto ritual stuff isn't required will kill thousands of people if it turns out it was. Hisone to Maso-tan: "Nuke the loving dragon Hisone!"
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Araki posted:I agree, not a perfect ending. In particular, Mitatsu-sama as a plot device felt contrived and poorly fleshed out. Everyone is super convinced that somebody has to be sacrificed in order to stop some giant dragon from destroying Japan, but it's never explained why that dragon needs a sacrifice, or why it has to be a Shinto ritual, or exactly how Mitatsu-sama is going to destroy Japan. Up until the halfway point (Hisone's "Who decided that!?" speech in particular), I was sure it was going in a much more drastic direction, in which they outright reject Mitatsu-sama and his dumb, outdated ways. The fact that they went for some generic hero-sacrifices-self plot beat instead went against the theme they seemed to be going for. I think this last episode was a fantastic ending for a fantastic show. After giving it some thought I feel I have to disagree with your complaint about Mitatsu-sama being a poorly fleshed out plot contrivance. Mind you, I don't disagree with that assessment, Mitatsu-sama was a poorly fleshed out plot contrivance, but I think that was the point. He was the contrivance that necessitated the existence of the other dragons which provided us with the fundamental character relationships in the show, as well as the shrine maidens which provided us with a foil for our protagonist, and the final act crisis which served to illustrate the growth of our protagonist. I don't know that the "Why?" of it is that important. Now, I like intricate world-building in my anime as much as the next person, but in the case of this show I feel I have to carefully temper my desire for more information with the realization that asking for more of that means getting less of something else. And, in a show that is as character driven as this one, that would mean less character beats which, to me, would do the show a greater disservice than knowing the details behind a giant narcoleptic dragon. Even the characters in the show don't seem to dwell on the why very hard; for them Mitatstu-sama is a Situation that has to be dealt with, and they have a Plan to do so. End of story. On that note, I found it hilarious that Hisone basically invalidated centuries of ritual by demonstrating that a) Mitatsu -sama doesn't need to be put to sleep and b) Anybody can plunge the wedge into the dimesional vortex. So, uh, thanks Shrine Maidens, but it looks like we don't really need your services. At the end of day, the show wasn't called "D-Pilot Fighting Girls Squad" or 'The Shrine Maiden's Dilemma", it was called "Hisone & Masotan" and it was always going to land back and serve those two. For me this was a story about an endearingly earnest, if somewhat lost, girl which quickly became a story about that same girl and a dragon, which then became a story about that same girl and her dragon ( Which I think was perfectly described by Haru when he said " I think that there might not be even a single thing in this world that can be taken for granted ". ) Given that, I can certainly forgive any nebulousness around a dragon that wakes up for one day every 70 years, flips upside down and goes to sleep again.
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FauxLeather posted:I love this show to bits but that ending felt unfulfilling and I really didn't like the "I suppose we could be gently caress buddies" line. She said it as a quote to him, to get him to realize why she was pissed at him, not as a suggestion.
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Mitatsu-sama really didn't need any more fleshing out, it worked perfectly well as a situation that Hisone and Masotan needed to make an impossible choice in, and that they managed to choose the even more impossible option, it's just the wrapping up of it that was a bit weak. Considering the stakes of the mission, I would have been perfectly willing to accept that the solution was as easy as them being able to escape by flying out, and no one knew that because no one was ever willing to risk leaving one of the four dragons needed to guide Mitatsu-sama to the location inside of it when they did the sealing ritual. They just don't give us anything about what the solution was which feels like they couldn't think of one.Anora posted:She said it as a quote to him, to get him to realize why she was pissed at him, not as a suggestion. he knows why she was pissed at him though, he did it intentionally to make it so she wouldn't get dissolved by her dragon while they tried to save Japan
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GodFish posted:Mitatsu-sama really didn't need any more fleshing out, it worked perfectly well as a situation that Hisone and Masotan needed to make an impossible choice in, and that they managed to choose the even more impossible option, it's just the wrapping up of it that was a bit weak. Considering the stakes of the mission, I would have been perfectly willing to accept that the solution was as easy as them being able to escape by flying out, and no one knew that because no one was ever willing to risk leaving one of the four dragons needed to guide Mitatsu-sama to the location inside of it when they did the sealing ritual. They just don't give us anything about what the solution was which feels like they couldn't think of one. Yeah, but she didn’t know that and needed him to explain it.
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Darth Walrus posted:Yeah, but she didn’t know that and needed him to explain it. no, she started that conversation off with saying she knew why he did it
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The_White_Crane posted:I think the thing that bugged me most of all was that they even acknowledged that it didn't have to be the Chosen Priestess who stuck the knife in the pool, so as far as I could tell they could easily just have set up a machine to do it remotely or on a timer or something and avoided the whole human sacrifice bit entirely.
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I thought it was a perfectly decent ending. The only thing real criticism I have of the show is that the big overarching plot feels a bit derivative of Final Fantasy X to me, but I like Final Fantasy X so its hardly some damning criticism.
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The whole thing makes a lot more sense when you realise the whole thing with Mitatsu is just the ‘White Lovers’ idea on a grand scale - the idea that a woman must sacrifice everything for her job/destined partner. Hisone was just going ‘no, gently caress off, you possessive jerk’, and not giving him his hot-water bottle before she tucked him in. As for how they got out, it seems fairly obvious that they just tunnelled out through sheer brute force because Masotan is a loving dragon, and because a friendship isn’t a sacrifice, it’s empowerment. It isn’t even the first insane feat of strength we saw them pull this episode - remember the thing with the ropes?
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I'm catching up on HisoMaso and this grandma is so spicy! also here's a thing 
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Probably pointless to update the thread at this point but Japan's first female fighter pilot just finished her qualifications: https://japantoday.com/category/national/breaking-barriers-japan-gets-first-woman-fighter-pilot  inspired by top gun
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