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Sporkie
Jun 1, 2009

Tsilkani posted:

I have multiple infinity armies sitting unpainted in my closet. Take a deep breath, get some superglue, put your starter together, and have fun. The painting will wait for when you're ready.

I'm very proud that now, six months in to staying mostly at home, I've finally started painting my Yu Jing for reals. And most everything I bought during this period is assembled. Mostly.

Just 3 more armies to go when I'm done with the YJ...

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Genghis Cohen
Jun 29, 2013
Lol, I bought into Yu Jing probably 2-3 years ago now. I'm not sure I've ever played a game with them. Got 50-ish models sitting assembled but unpainted in foam.

Otoh, just 17 Nomads away from them being fully painted!

Who am I kidding, I'll probably buy more before I even get to the end of those.

HardKase
Jul 15, 2007
TASTY
The box arrived. There aren't many mould lines. Shouldn't be too bad to clean up.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


New hacking chart is released and its much much simpler.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
Seriously if it's your first time painting, just accept that it may not be perfect and try your best. It's a skill that takes a lot of research and practice to get halfway decent at and the only way to practice is by painting.

Sporkie
Jun 1, 2009

Flipswitch posted:

New hacking chart is released and its much much simpler.

It is, and I like it. Kinda surprised assisted fire stayed in,but cool now it's on EVO instead.

Also that new Samaritan's profile is pretty interesting.

And Domaru profile gives me more hope for JSA.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


I like his being cheaper for an Lt option as an incentive to take it, that's a neat touch. E: simpler hacking is absolutely an improvement, poo poo like this has been a long time coming.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Dont forget to clean all of the pieces first before gluing. The glue wont stick otherwise.

Genghis Cohen
Jun 29, 2013
Big fan of simplified hacking, AHD was a poor relation in N3 compared to the utility of the Normal HD and the killing power of the KHD. Really a big change is HD or HD+ losing even a less powerful program to take w/str from enemy hackers.

Probably the biggest change is moving support ware to EVO only. Didn't see those too often before, but now they're the only way to recreate linked Marksman Tsyklons, Dakinis etc. Obviously we still need to see if the exact effects of support ware change. I would assume the special EVO support ware plus options are dead or the normal support ware is brought up to that level.

Couldn't be much happier with the Corregidor wildcard bonanza. I can see most any option except maybe Wildcats as the basis of a great mixed link.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

I said come in! posted:

Dont forget to clean all of the pieces first before gluing. The glue wont stick otherwise.

Oh gently caress yes. It doesn't look like it but CB uses mold release agent that will gently caress up your glue adhesion if you don't remove it (warm soapy water+toothbrush, rinse; do after cleaning but before gluing).

Cassa
Jan 29, 2009
Painting up some more HI because that price drop looks more and more legit. They need a wash and touch ups, as well as to get their bases done, the plan is to do a sort of main road feel, just something simple.
The Kunai is painted with some colour shifting paint, really simple and looks great.


https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/488515889952456704/757032732105900072/kunai_ninja.mp4

Magic Rabbit Hat
Nov 4, 2006

Just follow along if you don't wanna get neutered.
Ooooh, that colour-shift looks real good. I should pick some up if I remember.

So I didn't see this mentioned, but a couple days ago a version of the N4 army builder leaked. Initially some WarCors and IJW explained it away as a beta of a beta, and CB relocated the link somewhere else.

Well, that wasn't completely true. I got an early link to it and kept it open in my browser to compare with the video release on Friday to see how far back it was from. Turns out CB's still updating it. I've been watching things appear, disappear, get changed, fixed, and updated pretty regularly and I'm genuinely, honest to god, extremely loving excited about N4.











I have no words.

Trenchdeep
Sep 12, 2017


Yeah, everything I've seen so far is hyping me up! There's definitely a couple sticking points, but with it definitely being a beta release, I'm not worried. Totally slamming all the tags I own onto the table though.

Genghis Cohen
Jun 29, 2013
I'll hold out on analysing the profiles until A) we know they're actually correct and B) we see everything else. But my base instinct is that everything got a bit cheaper, particularly 2W models. That's something I'm normally very cynical about in games, because it just inflates the size and eventually fucks up granularity, because you can't make the cheap units any cheaper. But I suppose the 15-cap prevents that and we haven't seen how the cheap models have altered in cost yet. My favoured warbands as a defensive screen (Jaguars, previously at 10 pts) are looking a little weedy compared to 18pt Tankos! Different units given Impetuous and the lack of smoke, but it is indicative of how things could change (if correct).

HardKase
Jul 15, 2007
TASTY
I gave it a shot and painted up some dudes.



LazyAngel
Mar 17, 2009

I'll miss my Igao's Stun grenades, but I see that cheeky little Mirrorball pheroware lurking on the third profile :-P

Under 15
Jan 6, 2005

Mr. Helsbecter will you please stop shooting I am on the phone

Magic Rabbit Hat posted:

Ooooh, that colour-shift looks real good. I should pick some up if I remember.

So I didn't see this mentioned, but a couple days ago a version of the N4 army builder leaked. Initially some WarCors and IJW explained it away as a beta of a beta, and CB relocated the link somewhere else.

Well, that wasn't completely true. I got an early link to it and kept it open in my browser to compare with the video release on Friday to see how far back it was from. Turns out CB's still updating it. I've been watching things appear, disappear, get changed, fixed, and updated pretty regularly and I'm genuinely, honest to god, extremely loving excited about N4.











I have no words.

If you still have it open, please post Moderators and Morlocks and I will owe you a favor

Sporkie
Jun 1, 2009
Shang Ji with an AP HMG? God I cant wait for their pack.

Magic Rabbit Hat
Nov 4, 2006

Just follow along if you don't wanna get neutered.

Under 15 posted:

If you still have it open, please post Moderators and Morlocks and I will owe you a favor




Here you go. Not much different about Moderators. None of the fireteam rules are in yet, and a few troops are missing, especially from Bakunin.

Pouring one out for Nuns though. Got NCO baseline and are more expensive for it. Maybe they'll get some interesting link options, but Grrls are as good as they've ever been so we'll see how that shakes out.

Under 15
Jan 6, 2005

Mr. Helsbecter will you please stop shooting I am on the phone

Magic Rabbit Hat posted:




Here you go. Not much different about Moderators. None of the fireteam rules are in yet, and a few troops are missing, especially from Bakunin.

Pouring one out for Nuns though. Got NCO baseline and are more expensive for it. Maybe they'll get some interesting link options, but Grrls are as good as they've ever been so we'll see how that shakes out.



thank

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
Got any O-Yoroi profiles in there mate?

Autodrop Monteur
Nov 14, 2011

't zou verboden moeten worden!
And if it's not too much of a problem, Hakims and Khawarij?

Magic Rabbit Hat
Nov 4, 2006

Just follow along if you don't wanna get neutered.

Pierzak posted:

Got any O-Yoroi profiles in there mate?

Sure.



O-yoroi is unfinished as you can see. It got an extra level of Martial Arts (MA2 is equivalent to N3's MA3) so she'll be a killer combat TAG. She picked up Minelayer, but scuttlebutt is that Koalas and Madtraps will be working like WildParrots and FastPandas do now; deploy and they'll run 8" somewhere, then explode. We suspect they won't automatically deploy or move with the model now, as a way to counteract scamming AROs.



Hakims aren't loading at the moment, but last I checked they were pretty broken and hadn't been updated. Khawarij look pretty good, but actually the real winner here appears to be the Zhayedans, although they still need to be cleaned up a bit.



Also Rouhani gave up Bioimmunity and got NWI instead. Seems pretty good!

Autodrop Monteur
Nov 14, 2011

't zou verboden moeten worden!

Magic Rabbit Hat posted:

Sure.



O-yoroi is unfinished as you can see. It got an extra level of Martial Arts (MA2 is equivalent to N3's MA3) so she'll be a killer combat TAG. She picked up Minelayer, but scuttlebutt is that Koalas and Madtraps will be working like WildParrots and FastPandas do now; deploy and they'll run 8" somewhere, then explode. We suspect they won't automatically deploy or move with the model now, as a way to counteract scamming AROs.



Hakims aren't loading at the moment, but last I checked they were pretty broken and hadn't been updated. Khawarij look pretty good, but actually the real winner here appears to be the Zhayedans, although they still need to be cleaned up a bit.



Also Rouhani gave up Bioimmunity and got NWI instead. Seems pretty good!

Cheers! This is making me very excited. I recently finished painting Zhayedans since I really like the sculpts, but found it difficult to put them in my lists. These changes make me very happy.
Giving baseline +1 damage, extra CC and NBW to the Khawarij is good. It's making the decision between HB and RTF for the upcoming ITS season even harder.

Pyrolocutus
Feb 5, 2005
Shape of Flame



Asking for a friend of mine - do you have Marauders / Blackjacks?

Magic Rabbit Hat
Nov 4, 2006

Just follow along if you don't wanna get neutered.

Pyrolocutus posted:

Asking for a friend of mine - do you have Marauders / Blackjacks?





Also of note is The Unknown Ranger got a few buffs too.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Magic Rabbit Hat posted:

Sure.



O-yoroi is unfinished as you can see. It got an extra level of Martial Arts (MA2 is equivalent to N3's MA3) so she'll be a killer combat TAG. She picked up Minelayer, but scuttlebutt is that Koalas and Madtraps will be working like WildParrots and FastPandas do now; deploy and they'll run 8" somewhere, then explode. We suspect they won't automatically deploy or move with the model now, as a way to counteract scamming AROs.
Awesome. My friend will be overjoyed to have cheaper heavies.

Also, the cost... I assume the double profiles are a remnant from the debug stages and not a "pay SWC or extra points" scheme?

teclis27
Aug 31, 2018
Any ideas what Proxies are looking like, if that's not too big a pain to dig up?

Pyrolocutus
Feb 5, 2005
Shape of Flame



Magic Rabbit Hat posted:





Also of note is The Unknown Ranger got a few buffs too.



Awesome, thanks. If you look up proxies as well, another friend of mine would actually be interested in Dart/Yadu/Dakinis.

Magic Rabbit Hat
Nov 4, 2006

Just follow along if you don't wanna get neutered.
At work right now so I can post some more when I get home, but I think CB may have moved the project over somewhere else. It was updating steadily right up until Sunday, but it's now evening in Spain and I haven't seen any profile changes so I think this is what we got for leaks.

Off the top of my head, the most taken Posthuman profiles went up a couple points, but Mk12 Mk5 and the HI posthumans all went down or remained the same price. Dakinis are exactly the same, just unnested skills. Yadu unfortunately seemed to get the wrong end of the discount stick and are remaining the same price. I think their profiles are unfinished though, the NCO HMG is still paying 2swc.

Pierzak posted:

Also, the cost... I assume the double profiles are a remnant from the debug stages and not a "pay SWC or extra points" scheme?

This is a safe bet. A couple other profiles have the same look.

Cassa
Jan 29, 2009
So have a question for the room, do we think Stealth is going to be altered at all from it's current form?

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Yeah they're aware of the leak source now so they've moved it.

Genghis Cohen
Jun 29, 2013
Just to chime in, it's not always clear what has been updated either from N3 or from a previous playtest version. So while I'm desperate for the full picture, I'd really avoid drawing conclusions from the leaks we've got.

Posthumans, for example, even if we take the profiles as complete and correct, there are questions over whether their excellent rule (is it G:jumper in N3?) was altered or not. That ability to lose them without losing the order was a huge part of their strength (and why CB thought it outweighed their 1-order drawback enough to merit a huge points discount is consistently baffling to me).

For Corregidor, I have started to get my head around the wildcard bonanza. Obv waiting out on any tweaks to fireteam rules and to the profiles. But I see Jaguars, if fully/freely able to be Core fire teams, as a huge bonus. Any team can start with a jag or 2 for cheapness/smoke/close quarters, a daktari to revive, and then add some heavy hitters and/or specialists to taste. Brigada, evaders, sputniks and loads of the wildcards all have utility.

Not sure that supportwared bots (sputniks on this case) will be as popular now you need a dedicated evo hacker to buff them up. Profiles are still pretty good (Vostok) or okish (Tsyklon) without the assisted fire buff (which may itself change in N4) but that marksman ability was a huge part of why anyone took remotes in N3.

Cat Face Joe
Feb 20, 2005

goth vegan crossfit mom who vapes



Fusilier Paramedic, for what am i rite folks

Magic Rabbit Hat
Nov 4, 2006

Just follow along if you don't wanna get neutered.
Healing ORCs now I'd say. What with Medikits just rolling straight PH they've got a higher chance of healing your HI than your Doctor does at any rate. Not counting rerolls, anyway.

That aside, great looking scheme! I love the face on her.

Red Herring
Apr 3, 2010

Magic Rabbit Hat posted:




Here you go. Not much different about Moderators. None of the fireteam rules are in yet, and a few troops are missing, especially from Bakunin.

Pouring one out for Nuns though. Got NCO baseline and are more expensive for it. Maybe they'll get some interesting link options, but Grrls are as good as they've ever been so we'll see how that shakes out.



Thanks for these. Did the Taskmaster and Prowler get some TLC? They were both models that got me into Bakunin and Infinity, but they were kinda pants on the TT.

Also, Riot Grrls are now AVA2, but can be in a Haris. I haven't been keeping abreast of the N4 leaks, but does that mean big changes for RG heavy Bakunin lists?

Red Herring fucked around with this message at 06:37 on Sep 23, 2020

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

If you shoot
you better hit your mark
It's most likely just the vanilla Ava, so in bakunin I'd expect Ava to go up to 4/5

Cat Face Joe
Feb 20, 2005

goth vegan crossfit mom who vapes





Prowlers have become more than "expensive Zero".

Cat Face Joe
Feb 20, 2005

goth vegan crossfit mom who vapes



Magic Rabbit Hat posted:

That aside, great looking scheme! I love the face on her.

Thanks, the Reaper triads help.

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Genghis Cohen
Jun 29, 2013

Cat Face Joe posted:



Prowlers have become more than "expensive Zero".

Spec op across the board and the KHD option are both nice, they benefit from the 4-4 MI change, and glad to see the unreasonable spitfire SWC tax is reduced. Cost remains pretty drat high though. Honestly I just see these as a profile which is expensive enough to hurt when you lose it, but lacks some really significant advantage over other active models.

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