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Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.


veni veni veni posted:

I think you're missing the point, although he wasn't doing the best job of articulating it. He's not saying that his Mario/Dark Souls/celeste skills should transfer over to GMGOW. He's saying that he's not adverse to or inexperienced with challenging games, but GMGOW is hard in a way that sucks and isn't fun. Which I think most people including yourself seem to agree with.

I played it for a bit and it really feels like a drat miserable slog. It's like everything I don't like in a hard mode.

Bayonetta 1's Infinite Climax mode just takes away your Witch Time. Top-end difficulties in most games just start pulling out any mechanic that favors the player, it sucks but I understand why they do it. It's for a tiny group of masochists. I think the fact that GMGoW doesn't grant you a trophy is as close as the devs are going to get to saying "most of you won't enjoy this"

Change the mode name to "give me a punch in the face"

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Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010


Stern yet fair. I might run through the game again, is there a recommended path to get the best gear quickly? Like, do the story until here, run here when the water lowers, then run here when the water lowers again?

precision
May 7, 2006

Gonna have me some good friends around
Gonna have me some good times in town


shortspecialbus posted:

You're not limited. Whichever you pick, you can get the others with items that aren't limited. The requirements to craft them will change as soon as you leave and re-enter the store after you've crafted once

I never figured this out because Sindri's armor is way better

Action Serious
Feb 2, 2009


Just killed a Valkyrie. It took a few dozen tries and wasn’t fun. Not looking forward to fighting more.

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.


Slippery Tilde

Action Serious posted:

Just killed a Valkyrie. It took a few dozen tries and wasn’t fun. Not looking forward to fighting more.
The first one is bad because you may be underleveled and also you don't know what to expect. After that it gets easier until you do the last one. Just remember to use everything at your disposal - combos, runic attacks, BOY, rage, etc.

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010


Action Serious posted:

Just killed a Valkyrie. It took a few dozen tries and wasn’t fun. Not looking forward to fighting more.

Get runic armor, use runic attacks, don't attack Valkyries with purple health bars.

MechaSeinfeld
Jan 2, 2008


I was too stubborn to know when to go and level up and I killed the last Valkyrie at level 7. If I didn't get to like a fifth of its health on the first try I wouldn't have kept going.

Goddamn..it was so easy to get dropped like a sack of poo poo

Mr Shiny Pants
Nov 12, 2012


Gumbel2Gumbel posted:

The issue with GOW is that the lock on is hard as hell to shake off unlike Bloodborne for example and the game should just have a roll that doesn't disrupt combos, not a mostly useless sidestep.

Also the camera should have a zoomed out mode.

Basically it just needs a Bloodborne mode but they went really heavy on making the game designed around the axe throws.

This, this is exactly how I feel. It feels cramped, and sometimes you just keep pointing to an enemy while you want to strike the other one that is coming from the side.
I like it a lot though, but these two things are bloody annoying.

Oh, and the variable timing of the "tells", man that pisses me off. When a traveller does an overhead swing, and he turns a little further because you dodged a bit early. You can even see it stretching the animation.
Playing on hard BTW.

It looks awesome and I do have a lot of fun I must say, enemies do have a lot of health though.

shut up blegum
Dec 17, 2008

*in extremely cyber voice*
hey hey


I hate those disappearing witch enemies and those ground worm things. Stop running away cowards! Face my axe!

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

Shangela was robbed.



Gumbel2Gumbel posted:

The issue with GOW is that the lock on is hard as hell to shake off unlike Bloodborne for example and the game should just have a roll that doesn't disrupt combos, not a mostly useless sidestep.

Also the camera should have a zoomed out mode.

Basically it just needs a Bloodborne mode but they went really heavy on making the game designed around the axe throws.

I haven't messed around w/ much of the camera settings other than making it move faster, but I'm p sure you can disable all the soft lock on stuff in there. Idk what the targeting is like with all of that turned off, could be better?

Mr Shiny Pants
Nov 12, 2012


So, what exactly is the difference between a dodge and a roll? Is a dodge just pressing X twice without the stick? I want to keep my combo's going.

Figured it out.

Mr Shiny Pants fucked around with this message at May 22, 2018 around 08:38

shortspecialbus
Feb 16, 2006

WOULD YOU ACCOMPANY ME ON A BRISK WALK? I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH YOU!!

shut up blegum posted:

I hate those disappearing witch enemies and those ground worm things. Stop running away cowards! Face my axe!

The witches are easy, just spam Square 4 times every few seconds to get off an Atreus arrow combo, and she'll pretty much always be visible and taking damage. Murder of Crows can also be really useful if you're fighting a particularly difficult one. I recommend light arrows when fighting them mostly solo because they stun pretty easily so you can get a bunch of R3s in usually, electric arrows if they're in a crowd to keep everyone else paralyzed.

Those ground worm things can go gently caress their own faces though. They're not really difficult, just time consuming.

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010


What the hell is the deal with the poison worms you can't hit without taking damage?

JoeGlassJAw
Apr 9, 2010


What should my plan of action be in post-game? I saw the little window pop up when I beat the game. I've already freed three dragons, which I think is all of them? I've been chipping away at Muspelheim. Niflheim seems way too hard. I ran around in there for a bit but got killed in like the second or third area. Am I correct in assuming I can farm some echoes from the first area and then just run back and give them to Sindri and do that for a little while until I can buy some beneficial gear? Or do I have to go all the way through in one shot? I'm not loving with Valkyries at all right now because I've run into a couple of them and gotten my rear end handed to me. I guess my question is what order should I do stuff in in order to be strong enough to do the next thing? Muspelheim>Niflheim>Valkyries?

JBP
Feb 16, 2017



Gumbel2Gumbel posted:

What the hell is the deal with the poison worms you can't hit without taking damage?

Throw your special magic throwing axe at them.

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015



Gumbel2Gumbel posted:

What the hell is the deal with the poison worms you can't hit without taking damage?

They stun really easily

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010


JBP posted:

Throw your special magic throwing axe at them.

That doesn't really fly with level 7 and 8, they take way too long.

Edit: I guess they just take way too long to kill and that's that.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017



Gumbel2Gumbel posted:

That doesn't really fly with level 7 and 8, they take way too long.

Edit: I guess they just take way too long to kill and that's that.

Infinity Gauntlet

Also the light runic axe throw thing shits damage and is great for enemies like that

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010


JBP posted:

Infinity Gauntlet

Also the light runic axe throw thing shits damage and is great for enemies like that

God the infinity gauntlet is great. The tracking on it will turn 90 degrees instantly for enemies that dodge.

shut up blegum
Dec 17, 2008

*in extremely cyber voice*
hey hey


I had to look up what that is. By the time you can get that, I'm pretty sure you don't have to deal with the worms anymore.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."

In case this wasn't immediately obvious you can also huck the axe at the ground where the worms burrow and it will freeze them.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017



shut up blegum posted:

I had to look up what that is. By the time you can get that, I'm pretty sure you don't have to deal with the worms anymore.

They pop up constantly in muscleheim and Niflheim. You can get it a fair bit before you finish the game if you do all the dwarf stuff.

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Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010


Those misty little bastards. I was just running through the arenas before I got mist armor because of how much time they wasted.

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