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Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.
It does,
LR
Buy 3T
Price drops to 120, holdings to 20

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Orvin
Sep 9, 2006




The General posted:

BA Operates
Upgrade G8
Shares price falls to $165
But 3T for $250
Holdings at $140


I think that makes it Squishy's LR.

I swapped the positions of the BA and the PSN in the $165 box in the stock market page. The BA should have operated first, so it should be at the top of the box.

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"
BELT Operates
Upgrade G8 with a new exit SW
Runs 3T From New York, through Baltimore, to Pittsburgh for $170
Runs 2T from Pittsburgh to Blacksburg for $100
Runs 2T from Blacksburg to Charleston for $80
Runs 2T from Pittsburgh to Cleveland for $90
Total Revenue = $440
Full pay, $264 to Panzeh, $176 to the company
Pay $80 in interest
Pay off 1 loan for $100
Company holdings are now $61, Share Price is $180


RUT Operates
Buys 3T for $250
Company holdings are $0
Share Price decreases to $110

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.
STR operates
Recieved 25 from mail
Lays track E4 exit NE
Runs 2T Cincinatti-Chicago for 80
Runs 2T Cincinatti-St Louis for 60
Withold the full140
Pays 20 in interest
Pay off 1 loan for 100
Share stays at 90 holdings at 45

Orvin
Sep 9, 2006




Ignore this post, missed soming.

Orvin
Sep 9, 2006




The General posted:

BA Operates
Upgrade G8
Shares price falls to $165
But 3T for $250
Holdings at $140


I think that makes it Squishy's LR.

How does the BA upgrade G8 without building its home first? Might need to spend an extra $30 to build Cincinnati. Or at least $10 to build Cincinnati and undo the upgrade.

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

Orvin posted:

How does the BA upgrade G8 without building its home first? Might need to spend an extra $30 to build Cincinnati. Or at least $10 to build Cincinnati and undo the upgrade.

Yeah, this does have an effect on my tile lay.

The General
Mar 4, 2007


Orvin posted:

How does the BA upgrade G8 without building its home first? Might need to spend an extra $30 to build Cincinnati. Or at least $10 to build Cincinnati and undo the upgrade.

I am very very dumb. I am sorry. I will pay the extra $30
Edit: I also managed to play the wrong tile at G8, and fixed that too. Good lord.

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"
BELT will instead lay a coal tile at H13, exit pointing east.

The General
Mar 4, 2007


ALT Operates.
No Tile
2T Charleston Atlanta $100
2T Charleston Pittsburgh $90
Withhold All
Pay $20 Interest.
Pay $100 Loan
$70 Holdings, stock stays at $80

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"
Can I go back and have BELT withhold instead? I had forgotten about export.

Panzeh fucked around with this message at 00:15 on May 7, 2018

The General
Mar 4, 2007


Absolutely.

Orvin
Sep 9, 2006




Panzeh posted:

Can I go back and have BELT withhold instead? I had forgotten about export.

Might want to look at half paying.

I have been struggling with similar issues on how I run the EJE. And having cash on hand for what is sure to be a crazy M&A round might be a decent idea.

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

Orvin posted:

Might want to look at half paying.

I have been struggling with similar issues on how I run the EJE. And having cash on hand for what is sure to be a crazy M&A round might be a decent idea.

Basically, without doing a conversion to 10, a full withhold is the only way i can get BELT a 4T in the next OR, and i'm pretty sure BELT would get shorted to hell if it went 10 shares atm.

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"
BELT Operates
Upgrade H13 with coal with a exit E
Runs 3T From New York, through Baltimore, to Pittsburgh for $170
Runs 2T from Pittsburgh to Blacksburg for $100
Runs 2T from Blacksburg to Charleston for $80
Runs 2T from Pittsburgh to Cleveland for $90
Total Revenue = $440
Full Withhold, $440 to the company
Pay $80 in interest
Company holdings are now $425, Share Price is $120

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.

Panzeh posted:

Basically, without doing a conversion to 10, a full withhold is the only way i can get BELT a 4T in the next OR, and i'm pretty sure BELT would get shorted to hell if it went 10 shares atm.

We're playing the 5-short max variant. I don't mean variant, standard rulebook.

Orvin
Sep 9, 2006




EJE Operates
Upgrades Toledo (D7), new Exits W & SW
Take 3 loans
Runs 3T - Atlanta to Charleston to Blacksburg for $140
Runs 2T - Charleston to Cleveland for $80
Runs 2T - Cleveland to Pittsburgh for $90
Total $310
Half Pay: $31 per share, $186 into the company
Buy 4T
Share Price net move back 1 space (3 back for loans before running, then double forward for paying 2x share value) to $70
Company has 4 loans, holdings of $36

All 2-T rust, and 2+ T are now obsolete with a single run left.



/edit: I think I have the spreadsheet updated for after my run. I just deleted all the 2T, didn't think they had to be logged anywhere on the spreadsheet.

Orvin fucked around with this message at 05:09 on May 7, 2018

Orvin
Sep 9, 2006




Mr. Squishy posted:

We're playing the 5-short max variant. I don't mean variant, standard rulebook.

He is referring to the fact that there is a bit less risk of shorting a 10 share compared to shorting a 5 share. If the shorted company survives and pays a divided, you are paying twice as much to the bank.

The General
Mar 4, 2007


Oh lord. The 2 trains are gone? I am so screwed.

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

The General posted:

Oh lord. The 2 trains are gone? I am so screwed.

Well, one person is going to go bankrupt, and it's not you.

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.
I was worried you might do that.

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.
NYOW operates
Upgrades Albany, new exits SW, E.
Pays 20 to lay connecting tile between new Albany exit and New York.
Runs 2+T Albany-New York for 90
Same again
Both trains rust
Withholds all 180
Pays interest of 40
Buys 3T from LR for 5.
Share price drops to 60, holdings at 140

Mr. Squishy fucked around with this message at 08:33 on May 7, 2018

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

Mr. Squishy posted:

NYOW operates
Upgrades Albany, new exits SW, E.
Pays 20 to lay connecting tile between new Albany exit and New York.
Runs 2+T Albany-New York for 90
Same again
Both trains rust
Withholds all 180
Pays interest of 40
Share price drops to 60, holdings at 145


I'm pretty sure NYOW is now in liquidation because it has no trains.

The General
Mar 4, 2007


Panzeh posted:

I'm pretty sure NYOW is now in liquidation because it has no trains.

Correct.

"Liquidations are caused when a company is no longer a viable railroad business. This can be due to missing an interest payment or not owning a train at the end of an operating turn."

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.
PLE operates
Received 10 from mail
Lays tile at d5, exit SW
runs 2+T Toledo-Pitsburgh for 80
Which then rusts
Withholds all
Pays 40 interest
Pays off a loan for 100
Share price falls into liquidation, holdings raise to 19.

Mr. Squishy fucked around with this message at 08:27 on May 7, 2018

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.
Oh yes, that makes sense. NYOW buys the LR train for a peppercorn, PLE falls into liquidation but pays off a loan instead.
e: edited the posts.

Mr. Squishy fucked around with this message at 08:27 on May 7, 2018

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"
Close, so close- PLE will need to go for a lot in liquidation for you to live.

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.
For 90?

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

80 will do because you have some cash on hand.

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.
Obviously we've got different definitions of "a lot".

Orvin
Sep 9, 2006




I really debated if that move to get a 4T was the right one or not. But seeing Panzeh set up for a 4T next turn, Made me think why wait. Also, remembering to take my loans before running the trains to get a double stock push really helped.

Also, the tricky thing for Mr. Squishy is that he can’t bid up his own company in liquidation without help. He can only bid $10 higher than the highest bid. Luckily with 2 tokens and a mail contract, it ought to go for at least the $80 you need.

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

Orvin posted:

I really debated if that move to get a 4T was the right one or not. But seeing Panzeh set up for a 4T next turn, Made me think why wait. Also, remembering to take my loans before running the trains to get a double stock push really helped.

Also, the tricky thing for Mr. Squishy is that he can’t bid up his own company in liquidation without help. He can only bid $10 higher than the highest bid. Luckily with 2 tokens and a mail contract, it ought to go for at least the $80 you need.

The 4s are going to push anyway with the export before M&A. Mostly I think that push hurt anybody who had still yet to go.

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.

Orvin posted:

Also, the tricky thing for Mr. Squishy is that he can’t bid up his own company in liquidation without help. He can only bid $10 higher than the highest bid. Luckily with 2 tokens and a mail contract, it ought to go for at least the $80 you need.

poo poo you're right. I remembered both rules (that you can't bid up more than by 10 and the auction starts w/ a bid by the bank of 0) but didn't put them together. Mind if I yet further edit NYOW's turn to go halvsies?

Orvin
Sep 9, 2006




Mr. Squishy posted:

poo poo you're right. I remembered both rules (that you can't bid up more than by 10 and the auction starts w/ a bid by the bank of 0) but didn't put them together. Mind if I yet further edit NYOW's turn to go halvsies?

Don’t worry so much. One of my companies will pay at least $80 for the assets. As I stated before, 2 tokens and the mail contract is worth that much.

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

Orvin posted:

Don’t worry so much. One of my companies will pay at least $80 for the assets. As I stated before, 2 tokens and the mail contract is worth that much.

One of my companies might also pay for the assets.

Mr. Squishy posted:

poo poo you're right. I remembered both rules (that you can't bid up more than by 10 and the auction starts w/ a bid by the bank of 0) but didn't put them together. Mind if I yet further edit NYOW's turn to go halvsies?

Yeah, that rule's there so you can't self-gift yourself shitloads of loan money from a company using friendly sales. I have no problem with you half-paying NYOW.

The General
Mar 4, 2007


GTW Operates
Places Tile at H17 for $20
No trains.
Stock price doesn't matter.
falls into liquidation.
Holdings at $20

The General
Mar 4, 2007


AA Operates.
Upgrades G6
3T Pittsburgh to Cleveland to Charleston $130
Half Dividends. $65
Interest $40
Share Price goes to $60
Holdings at $25

The General fucked around with this message at 18:52 on May 7, 2018

Orvin
Sep 9, 2006




The General posted:

GTW Operates
Places Tile at H17 for $20
No trains.
Stock price doesn't matter.
falls into liquidation.
Holdings at $20


I am not saying this is a good idea, but if you wanted to save the company, 5 loans is $400. It’s not in a great spot, so I can see just letting the company fail, especially with no loans



Also, your AA will move forward if it half pays $65 in dividends.

The General
Mar 4, 2007


I definitely do not want to save the company. I don't think $80 in interest a turn (would probably go up even higher?) is a great idea for that company.

And I fixed my AA.

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Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

The General posted:

I definitely do not want to save the company. I don't think $80 in interest a turn (would probably go up even higher?) is a great idea for that company.

And I fixed my AA.

I agree, the company won't make a whole lot of money, let it go.

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