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rydiafan posted:Humanity was a mistake.
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Happy Landfill posted:Uh-uh. No. I refuse to believe this is sincere https://twitter.com/twothickscoops/status/1321832802678116358?s=20
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Oct 30, 2020 01:09
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Oct 30, 2020 02:28
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Tubgoat posted:No, pretending the humanoids who comprehensively lack humanity are human was a mistake. "I get to decide who is and isn't human based on how much they agree with me ideologically" is pretty fuckin' ugly, dude.
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Oct 30, 2020 02:34
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Samuel L. ACKSYN posted:what the gently caress Nobody ever did this.
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Oct 30, 2020 02:45
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Plastic_Gargoyle posted:"I get to decide who is and isn't human based on how much they agree with me ideologically" is pretty fuckin' ugly, dude. I mean, Nazis aren't human.
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Oct 30, 2020 05:00
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rydiafan posted:I mean, Nazis aren't human. Pretending they aren't gives them a pass for what they did/do today Banality of evil and all that. Saying that they weren't takes the agency they took in genocide away, and makes them no longer responsible for their actions. A monster only did what is natural to it, they couldn't help it, they were just following orders, they- on and on and on. No, they were and are human.
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Oct 30, 2020 05:25
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Samuel L. ACKSYN posted:what the gently caress Would it not work then? Been a long time since I've had vinyl about to try this out.
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Oct 30, 2020 10:43
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rydiafan posted:I mean, Nazis aren't human. "The people who oppose me aren't human" is how we got nazis, fuckwit.
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Oct 30, 2020 11:57
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Plastic_Gargoyle posted:"The people who oppose me aren't human" is how we got nazis, fuckwit. No, tolerating nazis is how we got nazis, you absolute loving drawerstain.
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Oct 30, 2020 12:04
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Tubgoat posted:No, tolerating nazis is how we got nazis, you absolute loving drawerstain. Damned right! At the same time, we have to remember that Nazis are human and so are their impulses, which is why we cannot let ourselves become complacent and think "Oh, this has all been sorted out, no need to worry about this stuff again~" like we did after WW2. Like any disease, Nazism and its like will need a lot of work and constant vigilance to ensure it doesn't infect anyone again. We cannot pushing for education and social reform, nor should we become complacent if/when we actually get those. EDIT: Mind you, right now if you gotta stop a Nazi by punching them, then by all means punch them, and twice on Sundays.
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Oct 30, 2020 12:12
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Lmfao, left to its own devices Germany would've de-nazified more effectively than the U.S. did because we deliberately put nazis back into leadership positions in Germany as well as goddamned NATO.
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Oct 30, 2020 12:18
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CommissarMega posted:Like any disease, Nazism and its like will need a lot of work and constant vigilance to ensure it doesn't infect anyone again. I got some real loving bad news for you bud.
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Oct 30, 2020 13:05
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cakesmith handyman posted:I got some real loving bad news for you bud. Yeah, I know  And worse, unlike corona and its deniers Nazism doesn't directly kill its hosts, I know that.
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Oct 30, 2020 13:08
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Tubgoat posted:Lmfao, left to its own devices Germany would've de-nazified more effectively than the U.S. did because we deliberately put nazis back into leadership positions in Germany as well as goddamned NATO. We even hired them on as technical consultants for Disney: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_and_the_Moon
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Oct 30, 2020 15:52
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rodbeard posted:We even hired them on as technical consultants for Disney: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_and_the_Moon
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Fatty Crabcakes posted:That's a weirdly specific take on the issue The point was we weren't even subtle about keeping Nazis around several of them became minor celebrities: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Speer
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Oct 30, 2020 17:06
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sugar mouse posted:Would it not work then? Been a long time since I've had vinyl about to try this out. If the 'skip groove' functionality works why do you need to scratch out the whole track also
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Oct 30, 2020 17:46
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Every well thought out system has backup contingencies in place.
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Oct 30, 2020 18:17
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rodbeard posted:The point was we weren't even subtle about keeping Nazis around several of them became minor celebrities: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Speer
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Oct 30, 2020 18:25
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This derail is pretty AUG.
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Ignite Memories posted:If the 'skip groove' functionality works why do you need to scratch out the whole track also It seems like you would want a larger radius arc to cut across instead of that steep diagonal line but I don't see why it couldn't work in theory
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Oct 30, 2020 19:55
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Nazis are human ≠ don't get rid of Nazis You still get rid of them. You do not tolerate them, you deal with them in the strictest means you must. No one is arguing for Nazis here, or being soft with them. As I said, they chose to do as they did. Dehumanizing them into mere monsters and boogiemen is how we ended up here. It mystifies them while cleansing them of any human agency. It allows us to hide behind our facade of civility and say "never again" while "again" creeps up behind us because we never faced the structures that led to it. A Nazi is human, but humans can deserve a crow-bar to the face, too.
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Oct 30, 2020 21:36
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A person's humanity being contingent on their category is some pretty Nazi poo poo, imo
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Oct 30, 2020 21:50
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DicktheCat posted:Nazis are human ≠ don't get rid of Nazis
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Oct 30, 2020 22:29
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Lot of loving sheep here. Nazis are proto-human hybrids with all kind feelings edited out. I'm embarrassed for some of you. https://www.amazon.com.au/Dark-Fleet-Secret-Program-Battle/dp/1591433444 fake edit: I hate these books. They could at least spend some time trying to link known facts to their BS theories, but these are out and out lists of crazy statements with not even a wisp of evidence that at least the fake moon landing and flat earth people try to do. Apparently the Reptilians use a base-60 counting system because as well all know irrational numbers don't exist under that system and therein lies the source of great technology!
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Oct 30, 2020 23:27
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oldpainless posted:Spoken like a true nazi Dude no
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Nazi AUG gently caress off
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Oct 31, 2020 01:16
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oldpainless posted:Spoken like a true nazi what the gently caress man
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Oct 31, 2020 01:45
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Heath posted:A person's humanity being contingent on their category is some pretty Nazi poo poo, imo Plastic_Gargoyle posted:"I get to decide who is and isn't human based on how much they agree with me ideologically" is pretty fuckin' ugly, dude. Plastic_Gargoyle posted:"The people who oppose me aren't human" is how we got nazis, fuckwit. lol Lots of people in this thread real quick to defend Nazis.
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Oct 31, 2020 02:03
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rydiafan posted:lol How completely loving bereft must you be to even say this ironically
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Oct 31, 2020 02:14
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rydiafan posted:lol SA is a land of contrasts, comrade.
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Heath posted:How completely loving bereft must you be to even say this ironically I'm not being ironic. Your response to "Nazis are bad" was "how dare you claim everyone of a category is bad". Real galaxybrain take to claim hating all Nazis is the same as hating all Jews.
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Oct 31, 2020 02:25
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rydiafan posted:I'm not being ironic. Your response to "Nazis are bad" was "how dare you claim everyone of a category is bad". Real galaxybrain take to claim hating all Nazis is the same as hating all Jews. My response was not "how dare you claim everyone is a category is bad," it was "having their humanity contingent on their category is bad." I did not come within a loving galaxy's length of saying "not all Nazis are bad," and you're being combative and purposefully obtuse to read it that way. Looking at any human being and deciding they are not human, i.e. don't deserve human rights, is what Nazis do. Saying not to do what Nazis do is not somehow a defense of Nazis. When you start categorizing groups of people as human or not human on the basis of anything other than "are they literally a human being," you start walking down the path that leads you to doing things like throwing people into gas chambers and you keep the company of the same ideologies you claim to hate. So gently caress off back to CSPAM with that.
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"You hate Nazis? Perhaps it is YOU who is the Nazi." - A Take Let me spell it out for you. Demonizing somebody for what they are (race, sexuality, etc.) is different that demonizing somebody for what they choose to do. Hating blacks isn't the same as hating racists. Hating women isn't the same as hating rapists. Etc. rydiafan has a new favorite as of 02:51 on Oct 31, 2020 |
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Oct 31, 2020 02:38
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The C stands for Cassandra.
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Oct 31, 2020 02:46
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rydiafan posted:"You hate Nazis? Perhaps it is YOU who is the Nazi." - A Take This, honestly.
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Oct 31, 2020 02:54
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rydiafan posted:"You hate Nazis? Perhaps it is YOU who is the Nazi." - A Take Nobody said "don't hate them." Stripping a human of their humanity is Nazi poo poo. Period. What would you do to someone who isn't human? Where would you stop? Would you stop?
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Heath posted:Nobody said "don't hate them." Stripping a human of their humanity is Nazi poo poo. Period. My cat isn't a human and I treat him pretty okay, aside from molesting him like constantly. I will not stop, I got a thicker shirt.
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