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i like the theory someone else posted that the us military detonated the nukes in their silos as a scorched earth policy mayb
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yeah i wouldnt be surprised if the cliamx of the show's story is some kind of mayday revolution with some kind canadian/british/un military intervention
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tbh the scenes with serena getting yelled off stage and shot lmao really drip with the whole condescending liberal "the nazis have free speech so u have 2 respect them and let them have a platform" bullshit that gets minorities killed.
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Ardennes posted:I got the sense in the show, it was much more of a very sudden thing (similar to Children of Men). It is also why the growth of extreme fundamentalism is so shocking (June doesn't seem to really worry until Sons of Jacob pretty much were already in control). id imagine as the us government retreated during the war against gilead they scuttled their icbms by detonating them in their silos all across the midwest.
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oh also this is the reality of who actually gets hurt when people like serena show up https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/25/neo-nazi-rally-california-stabbing-police-target-black-activist
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May 26, 2018 22:59
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oh god if only those horrible protesters had engaged serena in the marketplace of ideas instead of being ~the real fascists~
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May 26, 2018 23:59
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man seeing so many people in the year 2018 saying you should debate fascists makes me pretty terrified as a bisexual jewish anarchist.
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May 28, 2018 01:53
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my ancestors that died in the holocaust are definitely rolling in their graves
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esperterra posted:Advocating for violence to solve problems makes me upset as a gay person so diff strokes for diff folks good thing the rights we have were never gained through any violence whatsoever no siree bob
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May 28, 2018 02:40
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nah i'd be chill with ann coulter/tomi lahren/etc. getting shot tbh
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May 28, 2018 03:22
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its crazy that so many people in the thread for the loving handmaids tale adaptation in the year 2018 are pulling "so much for the tolerant left" bullshit. like holy poo poo how many levels of ahistorical liberal nonsense do you have to be on to think killing nazis is bad.
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May 28, 2018 03:23
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esperterra posted:imho there's a big diff between what was happening to our community then and fighting back against that, and punching people who are actively committing hate crimes against us and other minorities while the government helps them
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honestly by the time we get to the point where most spineless liberals who go "i dont like violence" are ready to actually do anything it'll be too late for them to help
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veni veni veni posted:Good thing you are making a real difference by throwing an internet tantrum at people who probably agree with you on most issues. Fight the power bro. dear somethingawfuldotcom today i learned being slightly annoyed at liberals in tviv is throwing a tantrum i mean i do literally fight the power by helping organize with the iww and anti-fascist groups in dc but go off
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May 28, 2018 04:04
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im surprised when people act like im unreasonable for wanting to respond in kind to people who would gladly see me put in a gas chamber and whose predecessors did it to my great grandparents and other family.
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Evernoob posted:If this show actually shared a universe with any other franchise, which would it be? probably children of men since they line up really well with eachother honestly. (this is helped by both of them only giving vague details about the state of the world at large)
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blue squares posted:This was by far the most boring, worst episode of the entire series. And it unforgiveabley tries to make us feel bad for Serena. And the line "we could have been colleagues." This show is rapidly becoming centrism.mp4 yeah honestly a huge turn off for me this season is just how liberal the show is
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PostNouveau posted:I am super unclear on what kind of society Serena thought she was making. They've made it pretty clear she was instrumental in making Gilead. lol do u think people like tomi lahren or ann coulter have any idea how miserable they would be in their "utopia" either
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i just think it's so hilariously on point that when they're watching the canadian news broadcast it describes gilead in totally spineless "unbiased" language. "controversial, even retrograde policies"
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Angrymantium posted:I never really feel like this show tries to get the viewer to sympathize with Serena so much as it explores how much someone like that would actually hate living in Gilead. She does something horrendous in just about every episode, so any fleeting moment of humanity for her character is tempered with a reminder thar she's basically evil right down to her core, just without the kind of power she thought she'd be wielding. The episode where she did writing work with June and it's "we could be colleagues" line was a callback to when the handmaids were reminiscing about the ice cream shop, and Serena talked about wondering if they were ever there at the same time...which was met with silence from the handmaids. pretty on point for how spineless the current #resist people are right now irl
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Owlbear Camus posted:"We won't rest until a DEMOCRAT is in charge of Gilead. Then we'll assume everything is fine." 
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veni veni veni posted:The whole infertility issue in this show seems like it would be...not that hard to study? Like, even it wasn't easy to solve due to environmental reasons or whatever, wouldn't they really easily be able to pinpoint that it was men who are infertile? wait i thought you were american too? why would white christian americans would handle the issue of massively declining birthrates in a not-batshit way?
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business hammocks posted:Repressive regimes aren’t rational, or pursue power in ways that make things inefficient. It may be more important to them to enforce certain theological principles over the simplest solution, or any solution. There were people in America at the height of the polio epidemic who said it was immoral to spend tax dollars giving it away for free and that the only moral solution was to let capitalism do the rationing, so great was their investment in the idea of markets as arbiters of morality. i mean look at how america handled the AIDS crisis
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:Ugh, people have already given you real historical examples of societies changing even more dramatically in just as short of a timeframe.The United States of America are not special or magic in that regard. But whatever, you do what you have to do. Do your "thing" my entire time growing up as an american there's always been a sense of "it cant happen here" even though it has and will continue to happen again and again Kanine fucked around with this message at 12:05 on Jul 27, 2018 |
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DasNeonLicht posted:While we're sharing chilling parts of the book about how society slipped into Gilead, this one really got me: i mean an irl example comparable is businesses and schools getting rid of unisex bathrooms out of reaction towards trans people gaining more rights/visibility
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veni veni veni posted:I wonder why Missouri /Arkansas of all the things got wiped off the map. i think a lot of nuclear silos are in that region so maybe warheads were scuttled by the retreating us military
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oh man, the actor who plays commander commander lawrence also plays the dad in get out
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JazzFlight posted:Turns out Elon Musk would be hella on board with Gilead. honestly people like jeff bezos or musk would 100% be on board with gilead (the capitalist class will always support fascism)
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Zane posted:the so-called 'capitalist class' is responsive to the market -- and whatever values consumers/citizens choose to bring to the market. if a critical mass of consumers/citizens become fascists then capitalists will become fascists. the same situation obtain with any political ideology that works in a market economy. trump's manufacturing and economic advisory council collapsed in the wake of his behavior in charlottesville--musk being in fact the first person to resign from it--because there are enough non-racist americans voting with their dollars for big businessmen to not want their products to be explicitly associated with a racist crazy person. i guarantee that as conditions get worse and more american workers start organizing and attempting to form unions/etc. in the next decade, billionaires like bezos and musk will move further right in response to it Kanine fucked around with this message at 08:07 on Aug 4, 2018 |
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if we were undergoing the same specific conditions like in the handmaids tale (acceletated environmental catastrophe causing a massive decline in birthrate which swings the american public over to supporting an overtly theocratic regime) robber barons like bezos/musk/etc, would 100% go along with the new regime
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it would have been interesting if the backstory to the handmaids tale was more like the spanish civil war where leftists manage to unilaterally win elections in the us (i know this is unrealistic lmao) with majority approval but then the sons of jacob overthrow the government and establish gilead as a response
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i love when people get really up in arms about the correct usage of the word fascism
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