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PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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Oh, rule suggestion from when I used to play a gently caress ton of Battlestar Galactica on PBP, make a rule against reading back more than one page or taking detailed notes. Once you can start really analyzing votes and actions, finding the Cylons becomes trivially easy (and it distracts from the game at hand, too).

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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everyone tell me who your favorite president is and why

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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Byers2142 posted:

On a serious note, Pmush, are you looking to maximize people in government early?
I am, though I'm not sure how the cycle works at a playcount this high, the rules only give an example up to 7.

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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I like that, still gives me a chance to fill out some gut reads, rather than blindly following the Mechanically Optimal Strategy.

okay now back to joke phase whats everyones favorite kesha song and why is it learn to let go

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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has anyone ever peed on a cigar

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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King Burgundy posted:

Although I own this in real life, I've still never played it. So the mechanics discussion between pmush and byers means nothing to me.
Neither have I but the rules linked in the OP have basic strategy stuff linked at the bottom.

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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CapnAndy posted:

We should just name a Chancellor and get on with it, though. There's nothing to do with no information.
I'm suspicious of this for the same reason I'm suspicious of everyone who charges through joke phase. Without a way to go back and check old records, and with most of us not having perfect memory, getting a feel for each others' motivations is the best weapon the Town Liberals have.

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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That said, there's something to be said for having at least something to go on, and a lot of people seem to be lurking.

Byers2142 posted:

Benjamin Franklin, best president according to my public school education.


##nominate Byers

At least we'll get info on an active poster, and one who is last in line for presidency as well.

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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Yeah, I suppose that makes sense.

Anyways, since it's apparently necessary,

##vote yes

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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CapnAndy posted:

While we wait for PMush to tell us what he drew, my current plan is to nominate kumba as Chancellor because he's far back in the Presidency cycle and I like this picture.
She! And I got two fascist and a liberal, which worked out well for getting an idea of what's up with Byers. I trust him alright for right now, it would have been easy to cast doubt on me.

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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What I mean is if he picked the Fascist and said it was because I passed him two. It'd make us both look bad, but it'd be my word against his. I don't know if someone would make a bold move that early, but it's a possibility, since there wouldn't be a chance to clear my name for quite a while.

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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##vote yes

Can't think of a compelling reason to vote no on two people we know nothing about.

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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I feel it worth mentioning that while regular fascists have motivation to cause trouble, the absolute best play for Hitler is playing 100% Liberal.

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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kumba posted:

I just opened the actual rules page for the first time and holy poo poo that's a lot of words
It's actually pretty simple for the most part, just wordy.

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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I'd also like to see CPig get scoped out, and if he isn't, I'm going to be very suspicious of someone who gave us technically-useful information that we can't do anything with until another go round.

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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i think itd actually be most productive to use it on whoever investigates first because then we get a triple confirm for two investigations

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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Mafia edit: Had autocorrect off because I was just shitposting in E/N, sorry.

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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If liberal comes up, I'll be behind copping Kumba, I think. Does the President get to talk to people before they decide who to scope, or does it happen during the same silence?

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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Alright, if that's what people think is best, I'm willing to cede that I might not know what I'm talking about. I won't raise an objection if kumba is the one who gets copped.

Still standing by that our second investigation should be on whoever made the first.

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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##vote yes

Plot twist, votefinder's gonna come in and tell us that yes has been dunked and flipped scum.

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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New plan, can we make TM our first investigation?

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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How long do we have left to hammer a yes/no? We're getting pretty close to deadline.

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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I'd be alright with a DB investigation.

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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I'm not sure why people are so "lol what a tryhard" about people who read the rules linked in the OP.

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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Byers, can you explain why the idea that kumba could be an Important President and acting on that idea is incorrect?

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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So we now know for sure that either KingB or RF is a fascist.

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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I'm starting to lean on the kumba side of this disagreement, which is awkward because I've got gut that calls RF a lot scummier than KB.

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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kumba posted:

are you saying you're on my side or you're on the side that disagrees with me

i agree that RF is scummier than KB, which would be agreeing with me, so why is that awkward

your wording is very weird
I am in conflict because if it was between you and KB, I'd say he was the fascist, but between him and RF, I'd say RF was the fascist. These are mutually exclusive situations.

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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I honestly forgot he was in the game.

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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TMMadman posted:

This is kind of my thinking too. I don't quite not trust you, but I also don't quite trust you either, so I'd rather have AA/kumba get looked at first.

I mean at the very base level, at least you and PMush both passed the liberal policy, so there is at least some level of trust, but since you two are also not likely to be up for government in the very near future, I want to get more information on those who are going to be up for government soon.
This is good logic.

I'm so back and forth on kumba, I'm leaning wanting to see him as Chancellor just to have more info to go on.

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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Byers2142 posted:

Did two different people just confuse kumba and Andy? If it were allowed, I'd say that is evidence of OOT conversation. As it is, what the hell?
In my defense, I'm back to being entirely on mobile.

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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I have no strong feelings about AA at all right now, but at least for me, kumba feels like someone who I'd like to be able to reevaluate knowing if there's a fascist policy attached.

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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Yeah, I'm okay with it.

##vote yes

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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Can we quarantine both of them for a while? DB picks someone, we deny RF a government, Kumba gets a turn, we deny AA a government?

I trust AA more than CPig, but at 2 fascist, I'd rather not take chances.

DB, who are you thinking for chancellor?

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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Is it three in a row that causes chaos or just three? Because a kumba government would break the chain between the two.

Don't really care who pig investigates, I won't trust it.

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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Well, my obvious choice between the two is myself.

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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We might as well have him scope kumba.

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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I still don't care and probably won't believe it, but at least it's theoretically a good plan.

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PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

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The issue with that (if you can call it an issue) that I won't believe him. No matter what he says and no matter what kumba is, a fascist has theoretical motivation for it. Him voting you is just as inconsequential though, so if that's what people want, sure.

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