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Okay, here's my thinking. Liberal Byers has no real reason to not respond to the lack of appealing options by giving another (you). I don't think he's adequately described his reasoning for thinking CPig is least likely to be Hitler. So I have to, given what I've seen, assume we have either Hitler or Fascist Byers. At least for the sake of argument. So, with that said, let's go down the possible deck states. 2L - He has to pass an L to the chancellor. A Liberal chancellor wins the game. If his government is denied, a Liberal president who doesn't elect Hitler wins the game. 1L - He MUST bury the L. His only recourse for not would be claiming 3F, but that would be self-incriminating. 0L - As above, he has to pass FF and self-incriminate. If he's denied, and another President sees 3F, they have HARD confirmation about two fascists. That's not a good position for fascists no matter how the cards fall. Fascist/Hitler Byers must choose to either self incriminate or lose. I'm not sure how to articulate quite what that makes me think it might mean, but I'm trying to get my thoughts together.
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I think I'd nominate TMM if it came around to me. Anyone have thoughts on that? Reasons he might be Hitler , especially.
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May 25, 2018 02:53
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Byers, do you think DB lied?
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May 25, 2018 05:41
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I think what he's trying to say is that it assumes flawless judgment, and we need to examine who we might be wrong about.
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May 25, 2018 19:58
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How long do we have until deadline?
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May 25, 2018 23:17
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Oh, cool. That's a while yet. I don't think I'm going to change my mind about Pig, but having more time to discuss things and get people talking is nothing but good news.
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May 25, 2018 23:42
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I just want to say? loving called it. I wanna nominate TMM. Feel like that's our only safe option left.
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May 26, 2018 18:37
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If we let it come around to Andy, I think we lose.
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May 26, 2018 18:38
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I think Byers is Hitler. As a regular fascist, he could have thrown shade on me from the very beginning by claiming to get 2F. He got early cred and then didn't do anything important until he was back in.
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May 26, 2018 19:10
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:The KB murder was unexpected.
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May 26, 2018 19:53
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I mean, probably is the wrong term, I've been tuning you out for days already.
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May 26, 2018 19:54
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Right now, TMM is the only one I can say with any certainty I think is lib. I don't think a fascist TMM would willingly give the libs that much info about past governments when it'd be much easier and benefit fascists much more to just say he doesn't remember. And I don't think he'd risk giving us faulty info when KB was right there on him and just as engaged, and could call him out on any discrepancies. (Same idea as well for the rest of the libs, but KB was most prominent.) Anyone who thinks TMM is a bad nomination choice, can you justify to me why a fascist TMM would give libs so much crucial info?
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May 27, 2018 05:31
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Probably AA and Capn, but I accept the possibility that one of them is just infuriating and bad. Assuming there's no smart fascists left is a terrible idea. I don't feel safe nominating anyone but you, TMM, or MAYBE kumba, but only if the alternative is getting rejected.
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May 27, 2018 09:11
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We're talking in circles and I probably won't be here tomorrow because of holiday stuff with the girlfriend. I'm not against kumba, him being for TMM gives me some encouragement, as does the lack of response to my question from people against it. ##nominate TMM ##vote yes
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May 28, 2018 02:58
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CapitalistPig posted:##vote no I will only vote yes for db or kumba as chancellor PMush Perfect posted:Right now, TMM is the only one I can say with any certainty I think is lib. I don't think a fascist TMM would willingly give the libs that much info about past governments when it'd be much easier and benefit fascists much more to just say he doesn't remember. And I don't think he'd risk giving us faulty info when KB was right there on him and just as engaged, and could call him out on any discrepancies. (Same idea as well for the rest of the libs, but KB was most prominent.)
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May 28, 2018 06:29
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 I was wrong about both Andy and AA but at least my hunch on TMM was right. I'd agree that either it has to be in Discord, or with shorter deadlines. Three days to talk it over is too long.
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May 28, 2018 22:55
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Yeah, one-day deadlines would be crazy short in a mafia game, but if the blitz pace is warned of ahead of time, it'd be a pretty big benefit towards making me want to play Secret Hitler on forums again. I wonder what SH would be like if it got flavors /reskins like Mafia games do. Secret Voldemort, coming soon to a thread near you.
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You can also do the BSG play by post thing and accept preloaded actions. IE, someone could PM you with "unless I say otherwise, in this round I will vote yes for TMM and no for anyone else" or "If this nomination succeeds, I will pass as many liberal policies as possible to them."
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