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Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!

Alan Smithee posted:

from what I gather they don't even explain why the Jackie Chan Kung Fu China is still called Karate Kid since I didnt watch it. I feel like this show could address that without being preachy. Hell have Jackie Chan show up

Because Will Smith has more money than god and wanted to reboot a beloved franchise to serve as a summer blockbuster vehicle for his kid.

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waah
Jun 20, 2011

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Alan Smithee posted:

from what I gather they don't even explain why the Jackie Chan Kung Fu China is still called Karate Kid since I didnt watch it. I feel like this show could address that without being preachy. Hell have Jackie Chan show up

Technically they don't even have to address it until everyone gets sick of these two. All these characters care about is Receda.

China might as well be in a different galaxy.

Thranguy
Apr 21, 2010

'Read over your compositions, and when you meet a passage which you think is particularly fine, strike it out.' -Samuel Johnson

Propaganda Machine posted:

Because Will Smith has more money than god and wanted to reboot a beloved franchise to serve as a summer blockbuster vehicle for his kid.

If he had only called it "The Kung-fu Kid" people would have still made the connection and it wouldn't have been as dumb.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!



I only saw the 2010 film once but if I remember correctly the bullies taunted Jaden's character by calling him Karate Kid when he tried to fight them. It was a very "Aaaaaand here's your title folks!" kind of moment.


It's not all bad though, Will Smith's brother in law Caleb Pinkett is one of the main people we have to thank for this show as he's the one who got all the permissions in order from Smith and Weintraub's estate. According to the creator's he was super into the idea of the show.

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etalian
Mar 20, 2006


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW6lx9FSiFc

Darko
Dec 23, 2004



Alan Smithee posted:

from what I gather they don't even explain why the Jackie Chan Kung Fu China is still called Karate Kid since I didnt watch it. I feel like this show could address that without being preachy. Hell have Jackie Chan show up

It was going to be called Kung Fu Kid, but marketing tested better with the Karate Kid so they kept the name and had a few throwaway lines about karate in it.

Its also the second best Karate Kid movie and way better than it has a right to be.

Spacebump
Dec 23, 2003

Nowitzness

Darko posted:

It was going to be called Kung Fu Kid, but marketing tested better with the Karate Kid so they kept the name and had a few throwaway lines about karate in it.

Its also the second best Karate Kid movie and way better than it has a right to be.

Isn't it Kung Fu Kid in every English speaking country except America?

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003

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Darko posted:

Its also the second best Karate Kid movie and way better than it has a right to be.

Stop spreading these lies.

TheCenturion
May 3, 2013

Still hoping that Yakuza 5 and Ishin! come west. Sony, I will walk out my door and buy a PS4, right now, if you make this happen.



I mean, it kinda is, if you correctly view KK1 and KK2 as one big movie.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006



They did a good job turning Miguel into a scary badass. Hawk too, those kids did good training work. I wonder how long they spent learning karate moves

The cafeteria fight is great, when he ducks the fat kids punch, ooh wee

wa27
Jan 14, 2007



Solice Kirsk posted:

That's what I don't get. Daniel got a "you're all right Larusso" and watched Johnny get assaulted by his psychopath teacher and yet he's holding this dude he probably hasn't encountered for decades accountable for poo poo that he didn't even do. Danny's a bitch made punk. Robby is gonna be a bitch made punk for following him. Our only hope is that Sam and failed cum son turn out to be more like their mom.

It really seems like all of Daniel's resentment comes directly from his hated of Cobra Kai. The first time he sees Johnny, he's genuinely happy to talk to him (albeit with some dumb smugness about the tournament). It wasn't until he sees that Cobra Kai is open again that he starts to turn against him. I mean he did walk in and see "Strike First" and "No Mercy" on the wall again, and then heard from his daughter's boyfriend that Johnny jumped him for no reason.

What's a little disappointing is that Johnny and Daniel have several conversations in this season, but at no point does Daniel say ".... so you're not teaching your students the way Kreese taught you, right?" Johnny even acknowledges how lovely Kreese was, but never says "I won't be like him."

With the success of this season and with all the Ali mentions in it, I hope they can get Elisabeth Shue to guest on an episode next season.

precision
May 7, 2006

Gonna have me some good friends around
Gonna have me some good times in town


good lord i had literally forgotten about the Karate Kid remake

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!

I had too until I saw Will Smith in the credits.

For what it's worth, I thought it was a competent summer movie, and I liked Sifu Chan. It was just another in a lineup of eh action flicks that year.

Clipperton
Dec 20, 2011



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Propaganda Machine posted:

I had too until I saw Will Smith in the credits.

For what it's worth, I thought it was a competent summer movie, and I liked Sifu Chan. It was just another in a lineup of eh action flicks that year.

I am a giant baby and I thought Chan's little lesson at the end of the "jacket" scene ("Everything is kung fu") was really moving. But yeah, that was Chan's presence as much as anything else.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003

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I'm pretty certain that Smith's backing of this project was him apologizing for his son making GBS threads on the memory of the original films.

Clipperton
Dec 20, 2011



Grimey Drawer

Rhyno posted:

I'm pretty certain that Smith's backing of this project was him apologizing for his son making GBS threads on the memory of the original films.

Eh, it wasn't that bad, especially by the standards of howlingly unnecessary movie reboots. It helped that it came out before Jaden Smith established himself as a complete idiot.

e: also the kids in the movie were played by actual kids and not 25-year-olds doing coke in between takes which was a nice touch

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Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003

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Yes it was.

Silly Burrito
Nov 26, 2007

HE'S OVER FIVE THOUSAAAAAAND!!!!!


Lipstick Apathy

Clipperton posted:

Eh, it wasn't that bad, especially by the standards of howlingly unnecessary movie reboots. It helped that it came out before Jaden Smith established himself as a complete idiot.

e: also the kids in the movie were played by actual kids and not 25-year-olds doing coke in between takes which was a nice touch

Wasn't Ralph Macchio 21 when he made KK1? I thought I read that somewhere and it just my mind.

Clipperton
Dec 20, 2011



Grimey Drawer

Silly Burrito posted:

Wasn't Ralph Macchio 21 when he made KK1? I thought I read that somewhere and it just my mind.

Dutch and Jimmy were both in their 20s too iirc, it's nuts

PaybackJack
May 21, 2003

...as much revenge as any man could possibly take.


zoux posted:

They did a good job turning Miguel into a scary badass. Hawk too, those kids did good training work. I wonder how long they spent learning karate moves

The cafeteria fight is great, when he ducks the fat kids punch, ooh wee

The more I think about it, Hawk was the real winner in this movie. He went from being unable to speak he was so shy, to ripping off his shirt and yelling during a public contest. He also got the cutest girl in the movie; though she was an airhead. He also moved past his sycophantic friendship to become his own person. I can forgive him becoming a bully himself because hey that's what happens when you flip the script.

Re: Jaden Smith's Karate Kid, ok it was obviously just a vehicle to help try and make Jaden's career, but the movie wasn't awful and it at least tries to depict life in another country, particularly an Asian country that isn't Japan. I mean I'm sure that was just part of the marketing strategy, so that they could court the Chinese government, but still. It wasn't terrible but in comparison to some of the other reboots of franchises that poo poo on one's childhood that falls in the middle.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!



Jaden's Karate Kid is fine. It's literally right in the middle quality wise if we're taking all five movies into question. It's better than KK3 and Next Karate Kid for sure (though 3 is infinitely more rewatchable). I'd put it and KK2 pretty close but KK2 barely edges it out I think. Of the five films it's one of three that are legitimately well made and good films.

I have only seen it once though, as I said I don't find it as rewatchable as the original trilogy which I've seen many many times.

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Hughmoris
Apr 21, 2007
Let's go to the abyss!

Just finished all of season 1. I'll echo everyone and say that this was surprisingly good. I really hope they find a way to bring in Elisabeth Shue for season 2.

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!

X-O posted:

Jaden's Karate Kid is fine. It's literally right in the middle quality wise if we're taking all five movies into question. It's better than KK3 and Next Karate Kid for sure (though 3 is infinitely more rewatchable). I'd put it and KK2 pretty close but KK2 barely edges it out I think. Of the five films it's one of three that are legitimately well made and good films.

I have only seen it once though, as I said I don't find it as rewatchable as the original trilogy which I've seen many many times.

It does edge out KKIII, but I think that's a sign of the times and production value. There's no arguing that it was slicker, but I was much more invested in Daniel than Jaden, whose character's name I don't even remember. I don't particularly want to watch it again, but he had some serious attitude problems. It's fun going back and reminiscing about how Daniel was actually the rear end in a top hat, but at the very least he made an honest go of his new life in Reseda. Jaden was just like, "China sucks; I hate this entire country."

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The Fuzzy Hulk
Nov 22, 2007

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Hughmoris posted:

Just finished all of season 1. I'll echo everyone and say that this was surprisingly good. I really hope they find a way to bring in Elisabeth Shue for season 2.

Have her come back to her hometown after getting divorced. Oh my God she could end up with Jonny after all.

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