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Privates don't pay income in 1817. You probably meant something else. Also, as the guy whose company is in Santa Fe, you don't have to rush in there as I am very happy w/ a $40 route to run. SP Operates Lays I13 (San Antonio) exits NW,NE Pays 20 to lay tile H14 (Dallas Fort Worth) exit NW Taps Land Grant and takes out 1 regular loan for 200 Pays 10 interest Buys 2 2Ts for 200 Holdings at 80, Stock drops 5 (2 loans and no payment of dividends) to 82 Stash's SR next. e: I alphabetized the sheet. The old one's still there if Panzah had some order, but I couldn't find things. Mr. Squishy fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Jun 9, 2018 |
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Mr. Squishy posted:Privates don't pay income in 1817. You probably meant something else. Also, as the guy whose company is in Santa Fe, you don't have to rush in there as I am very happy w/ a $40 route to run. I didn't have any order to things.
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Lay track Jacksonville (exits Florida, NE) $20 to lay track I23 with oil token (exit NW) Take 2 loans Pay 10 interest Buy 2x 2T for $200 Holdings $75, Stock drops- I count 3 for 2 loans and no payment but you took 5 hits, so I assume it's the same? Also, should I go ahead and make the changes to the map myself?
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Jun 9, 2018 19:30
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StashAugustine posted:Holdings $75, Stock drops- I count 3 for 2 loans and no payment but you took 5 hits, so I assume it's the same? Yes to both. Loans move you down two spaces in 'USA. Not sure why, but dividends can move you up four so swings and roundabouts I guess. It doesn't matter if the sheet lags a little bit, and updating it's a little fiddly, but the board18 things (both the map and the token on the stock market) are quick to do, and necessary for the next player.
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Okay, updated the board, don't seem to have write permissions on the chart so w/e
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Mr. Squishy posted:Yes to both. Loans move you down two spaces in 'USA. Not sure why, but dividends can move you up four so swings and roundabouts I guess. It doesn't matter if the sheet lags a little bit, and updating it's a little fiddly, but the board18 things (both the map and the token on the stock market) are quick to do, and necessary for the next player. Yeah, the amount of spots on the stock market have doubled, so the moves are -generally- doubled.
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If you ask for it you'd probably get it. Also, looking at those tile lays, I feel I should stress that dots on off-board areas count as stations towards your train's limit. You would need a 3T to run Jacksonville-Florida-Atlanta. That's different from dots on Rural Junction tiles, and dots in a lot of 18xxs, but it's a dot to show that you can't place a station on it.
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Jun 9, 2018 19:53
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Wait can you not run Jacksonville-Atlanta? poo poo
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Nope. There's still a good 2 2T setup from Jacksonville.
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ok, ill revise my move in a bit if thats okay with everyone e: okay i get it, ill use the sharp angle city and run direct from jacksonville to atlanta. ill fix it in a bit StashAugustine fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Jun 9, 2018 |
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Panzeh suggested another rules point that might be relevant. While a train may only visit a location once per run, a company may hit it as many times as they've got trains with unique routes to it. e: and no one's going to object to you changing your turn. It doesn't effect anyone, and the next turns not been yet. Mr. Squishy fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Jun 9, 2018 |
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Since Great Northern is coming up next, I have a modest proposal for Panzeh and UP. Obviously I'd like to build from Fargo to Helena. I'll do the heavy lifting this round and lay Fargo + the hex to the west with GN, and with Northern Pacific in Portland I'll spring for the extra $25(!) to lay the tile east of Seattle heading towards Helena. Then by UP's next OR you could connect up to Seattle and Fargo and lay your coal and iron tokens on the hexes E and W of Helena. You'll have a couple decent routes, I'll have a couple decent routes, everyone's a winner. I'd just ask that you lay Helena with connections E and W to make it happen. Sound good?
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eidited track lays: jacksonville exit sw/w, i23 exits e/nw i think that's lecher and PNW up next? StashAugustine fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Jun 10, 2018 |
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Known Lecher posted:Since Great Northern is coming up next, I have a modest proposal for Panzeh and UP. Sounds good.
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Cool, it looks like you have to lay the tile E of Helena in order to place the iron token, since it has to be done at the time the yellow hex gets put down. If you're able to do that this round it surely would be appreciated of course. Great Northern Lay B14 Fargo (NE/W oriented), B12 E-W via GNR private Take 1 loan (+100) Pay 5 interest (-5) Buy 1 2-train (-100) Stock goes back 2 (I think? 1 for no payout and 1 for the loan right?) At what point does the loan interest rate increase? I'm having a tough time figuring that out. If it's likely that it's going to be $10 next round I might take a second loan. Porfiriato fucked around with this message at 05:10 on Jun 10, 2018 |
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Known Lecher posted:Stock goes back 2 (I think? 1 for no payout and 1 for the loan right?) 86 -> 78[/b] Mr. Squishy posted:Yes to both. Loans move you down two spaces in 'USA. Not sure why, but dividends can move you up four so swings and roundabouts I guess. It doesn't matter if the sheet lags a little bit, and updating it's a little fiddly, but the board18 things (both the map and the token on the stock market) are quick to do, and necessary for the next player. Pretty sure interest increases at the start of operating rounds, idk how many loans adds up to more interest
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Ah OK, I bumped GNR back another space to 74 then. I think I'll still stick with 1 loan in any case.
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Yeah, interest is set at the start of each OR.
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Jun 10, 2018 07:33
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Hey for those of us watching, posting the map occasionally would be hella sweet.
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Does that make me up next with N&W? Lay Columbus exits NW, E; $20 to lay D22 exit to Detroit Take 2 loans Pay 10 interest Buy 2x 2T Holdings $52, stock $62
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StashAugustine posted:Holdings $52 *54 silvergoose posted:Hey for those of us watching, posting the map occasionally would be hella sweet. Sure! 
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UP Operates Take 1 loan Build station tile straight, exits E/W Run for $0, drop 2 spaces Pay $5 in loan interest Buy 2T for $100 Share price falls to $62, holdings at $81 Since you only have 1 2T on GNR, i'm gonna hold off on spending money on double-tracking. It wouldn't help you.
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I wasn't sure how ruthless you were going to be...I could have bought the second train and then you could have screwed me by not making the connection this round anyway, leaving me with a useless 2T and extra interest payments.  So I decided to play it conservative, maybe too conservative. Surprised you didn't buy a second 2T, UP is going to be set up nicely next round.Northern Pacific Take 2 loans (+200), drop 4 spaces Lay C3 Portland NW-SW (-10) Lay B4 E-W (-10+-20=-30, ouch, but I promised) Run for 0, drop 1 more space Pay loan interest (-10) Buy 2T (-100) Stock value $74 -> $56[/b]
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BNSF Lay G11 (Santa Fe) exits NW, SE Take 2 Loans Buy 2 2Ts Pay 10 interest Holdings at 32, Stock down to 48
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CSX Operates Lay Tile at Birmingham, new exit E Run for 0 Buy 2T for $100 Share price drops to $46, holdings at 0 ATSF Operates Lay straight city tile Run for 0 Buy 2T from CSX for $1 Share price drops to $46, holdings at 99
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Western Pacific Lay F2 NW-SE Take 2 loans (+200), share price drops 4 Run for 0, share prices drops 1 Buy 2 2T (-200) Pay interest (-10) Stock value $50 -> A3, holdings at zeeero Porfiriato fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Jun 10, 2018 |
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OK, that takes us to M&A. Going down the stock-market, companies get a chance to merge or convert into a 5 share. If a company converts, it needs to spend $50 on a station token immediately. If 2 companies merge, they add together all they own, including their stock prices (since we're dealing w/ 2-shares. 5-shares average them out). 5-shares can take more loans, have shares to buy, and can be shorted.
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Mr. Squishy posted:Panzeh suggested another rules point that might be relevant. While a train may only visit a location once per run, a company may hit it as many times as they've got trains with unique routes to it. Yeah basically in the early game when you're running 2ts, if you have two good stops and two routes between them, you can use both stops twice, like a loop. That was my plan for Jacksonville anyway.
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Panzeh posted:Yeah basically in the early game when you're running 2ts, if you have two good stops and two routes between them, you can use both stops twice, like a loop. That was my plan for Jacksonville anyway. It looks like a metroid to me.
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Wait, M&A is after every OR and not after the second OR? ... Welp, I guess I didn't read the rules close enough. If I'd realized that I would have only taken one loan for WP instead of two, I obviously wouldn't deliberately tank into the grey on the first OR in order to let someone else take it over. I thought I could put it there this round and then knock it back out next OR before M&As rolled around. If there's no objection I'd like adjust it so that WP only has one loan and only buys one train so I'm not completely shooting myself in the foot.
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Gosh, didn't you even check the little circle on the bottom right of the board? I've entered the changes in the sheet
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My companies are all in the north and west! Why would I ever deign to scroll down and look at Jacksonville?
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It's all good if you have to fix things up guys. This is many people's first games. One thing to keep in mind is the export schedule: 2+ trains are exported at the end of OR2 3(but not 3+) trains are exported at the end of OR4 one train is exported per OR from OR5 onward
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It's got that great game board design of being filled w/ little reminders that are helpful once you know it already, but the first time you see it the brain filiters it all out as white noise.
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I intend to merge ATSF and CSX, leaving CSX alive.
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I've lost track of whose turn it is so I'm just gonna say I'm not doing anything
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Its Papes as PRR is at the top of the Stock market.
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Panzeh posted:CSX Operates They drop to 48 as paying out no divs is one of the few moves that's not been doubled.
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Mr. Squishy posted:They drop to 48 as paying out no divs is one of the few moves that's not been doubled. Fair point.
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Mr. Squishy posted:Its Papes as PRR is at the top of the Stock market. For the M&A? I pass on merging
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