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myDad
Jan 20, 2010

ce n'est pas ma mère

College Slice

Berserker+Monk looks cool, I wonder how Instruments of Pain will interact with carnage.

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Dairy Power
Jul 23, 2013

He who lives in harmony with himself lives in harmony with the universe.

Kith posted:

I'm extremely sad that Blunderbusses lost access to the Penetrating Shot modal. It was easily their best talent and an enormous force multiplier.

Well, now you could do something like Devoted/Sharpshooter and get a bunch of passive penetration just from the subclass bonuses. Penetrating Strike would be available at character level 7 for some on demand bonus penetration, too.

Dairy Power fucked around with this message at May 6, 2018 around 04:38

tithin
Nov 14, 2003

HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa


Do I get to reclass my PoE1 character on import to 2? I'm watching cohh's playthrough and it looks so much better than poe1 it's ridiculous.

Does any of your loot from POE1 get imported into 2?

Roobanguy
May 30, 2011


tithin posted:

Do I get to reclass my PoE1 character on import to 2? I'm watching cohh's playthrough and it looks so much better than poe1 it's ridiculous.

Does any of your loot from POE1 get imported into 2?

yes to the first question at least.

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

andey...


It seems bad that my copy of Piglets of Eternity #2 is locked, and I'd like it to be unlocked. A golden ring to the first man to do it. and a banquet fit for a captain

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

We will no longer surrender this country or its people to the false song of globalism.

Diversity
is Disunity
is Weakness.


I got this avatar for being a giant shithead on ANZAC day.

tithin posted:

Do I get to reclass my PoE1 character on import to 2? I'm watching cohh's playthrough and it looks so much better than poe1 it's ridiculous.

Does any of your loot from POE1 get imported into 2?

And for the second question, the blade of the endless path and the other unique sword you find in Caed Nua's hall are fragments you have to piece together again.

bewilderment
Nov 22, 2007
man what

You get to totally remake your character.

I assume no loot gets carried over because that would make no sense from a gameplay perspective. Assume all your stuff got charitably donated or sold off to start the game.

willing to settle
Apr 13, 2011


Urthor posted:

Helwalker. Helwalker has Swift flurry and you have the ability for mad critical hit synergies between the two classes.

Oh, I had no idea that monks could use their abilities at range with guns. That is an interesting option then.

Master Stur
Jun 13, 2008

chasin' tail


Will I miss much if I never did the white march dlcs? I havent played poe1 since launch and don't really want to start over/try to figure out what has all changed.

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I refer to the blue one as "the greatest civil rights hero of the Fox Kids generation" and believe that gay marriage wouldn't have happened without him.


TexMexFoodbaby posted:

how many people are going to reroll their characters? my death godlike rogue seems pretty lame compared to all the options in the sequel. Probably gonna do a cipher, or a chanter that only chants when he's loaded.

My one playthrough was with a wizard. I had a core party of Eder, Pallegina and Aloth, and switched out the others as I saw fit. I'll probably do the same in Deadfire, and I don't want to double up on wizards again. So I will definitely reroll, but I'm currently torn between monk or priest.

Vargs
Mar 27, 2010



Master Stur posted:

Will I miss much if I never did the white march dlcs? I havent played poe1 since launch and don't really want to start over/try to figure out what has all changed.

Plot-wise? Not really. But you are missing out on by far the best content PoE1 has to offer.

Dan Didio
Apr 6, 2009

OMG!! WeareSOawesome!!



WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

And for the second question, the blade of the endless path and the other unique sword you find in Caed Nua's hall are fragments you have to piece together again.

Whispers of Yenwood.

Milli
Sep 28, 2009


friendship is magic
in a pony paradise
don't you judge me

What was the goon pet again? It was a pig right?

Master Stur
Jun 13, 2008

chasin' tail


Vargs posted:

Plot-wise? Not really. But you are missing out on by far the best content PoE1 has to offer.

Yeah I just didn't want to force myself to play them before POE2. Maybe later when I have more time

Schurik
Sep 13, 2008



Haven't been this excited for a game in a while. Monk/Barbarian is gonna owwwwwwn

tithin
Nov 14, 2003

HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa


If there isn't a keikaku joke to go with this "hovering mouse over terms" thing, I'm going to be horribly disappointed.

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

Could people please stop fighting the avatar war over my avatar. I really appreciate people being nice about it but I'm feeling crappier that people are wasting money because someone is an asshole than I am about the avatar in the first place.


For Shifter Druid at least, multiclassing really does seem like a no brainer. The final tier of Wildstrike is nice, but does it at all compare to layering on Monk/Barbarian/Rogue abilities to spiritshift? Ehhhhh no.

Fury though, I would have a hard time giving up Great Maelstrom for anything.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009


Speaking of porting poo poo in, does anyone have a list handy of the special equipment that Eder/Pallegina/Aloth bring based on their ending?

Dan Didio
Apr 6, 2009

OMG!! WeareSOawesome!!



Aloth gets a dope one-handed sceptre if he commits to destroying the Leaden Key, Eder brings his sunny disposition no matter what.

Urthor
Jul 28, 2014



Monk has the best Power level 9 abilities in the entire game, multiclassing that class seems like an abomination.

100% pen 100% accuracy on empower, AND 500% crit damage on 1 ability what the actual. None of the synergies with Ranger/Rogue/Barbarian/Fighter are worth giving that up. And you get to flurry earlier to boot with single class.

Basic Chunnel
Sep 21, 2010

Jesus! Jesus Christ! Say his name! Jesus! Jesus! Come down now!



Take a breath, friend. The munchkin builds are still in there

Avalerion
Oct 19, 2012


Taking a talent for a limited resource ability that is once per encounter only to boot seems wasteful, that might just be my usual hoarder instinct kicking in though.

Urthor
Jul 28, 2014



There are no once per encounter abilities I thought? You have your power pool, which is dictated by your power level, that fuels all of your abilities, and you have your empowers which are 4-5 at max level and are per rest.

Furism
Feb 21, 2006

Live long and headbang


Milli posted:

What was the goon pet again? It was a pig right?

Pig named "Bark String" yes.

Avalerion
Oct 19, 2012


https://pillarsofeternity2.wiki.fextralife.com/Power+Source posted:

Players can also use an Ability called "Empower" that will allow them to increase the effectiveness of an Ability or regain half of their max Power Source Points. This can only be used once per encounter per character and replenishes upon Resting.

Might be outdated now but this is how I thought it always worked. Someone also mentioned it in relation to that pet that gives extra empower not being good at all because it just gives you one more per rest.

Joink
Jan 8, 2004

What if I told you cod is no longer a fish


I haven't looked into empower to much. What exactly does it do for abilities? Like say I empower slicken, do I make a really large puddle of oil???

RandomMagus
May 3, 2017


Joink posted:

I haven't looked into empower to much. What exactly does it do for abilities? Like say I empower slicken, do I make a really large puddle of oil???

Empower just raises the power level of the ability you're using, iirc. Also you get a few empowers per rest, I believe.

So that level 9 Monk ability is 40-80 damage, and has +500% crit damage. I think the crit bonus was dropped to 30%, so that's 530% bonus on a crit for total of 252-504 damage, average 378.

If you take the passive level 9 Monk ability that gives +100 accuracy and pen when you empower it, you're basically guaranteed to over-penetrate and crit. Over-penetrating is I think another 30% boost? So you potentially have a 400 damage, up to 600+ damage with Might and other bonuses, nuke to use a few times per rest.

Seems pretty good.

Walrus Pete
Apr 16, 2008

Yo ho?


I can't believe I never saw anyone with the backer beta mention this, but I noticed something extremely important in one of the pre-launch streams yesterday.

Original Slicken has returned to us


okay, it's not as disgustingly good thanks to how prone has changed, but still

Random Asshole
Nov 8, 2010


Joink posted:

I haven't looked into empower to much. What exactly does it do for abilities? Like say I empower slicken, do I make a really large puddle of oil???

It wouldn't be bigger, it would just be more likely to effect people inside it.

CottonWolf
Jul 20, 2012

Could you imagine the step?
It's genius!


Urthor posted:

Monk has the best Power level 9 abilities in the entire game, multiclassing that class seems like an abomination.

Inner Death does look borderline broken, but I think Barbarian possibly beats them out in terms of shear practicality. With the Blood Lust/Thirst/Fury trio the last of which comes at PL9, every time you kill something you get a) 20% increase in action speed for 10 seconds b) no recovery for 10 seconds and c) +1 Rage per kill. And presumably those times are modified by Int...

Basically, what I’m saying is unless they’ve been fixed, don’t play a Mage Slayer barbarian, because their flat 50% reduction in the length of beneficial effects ruins all their best abilities.

e: Also, strong thread title.

CottonWolf fucked around with this message at May 6, 2018 around 08:23

Eddain
May 6, 2007


I think I'm gonna make a Beguiler Cipher that relies on just turning the entire enemy team against each other. The hard part is figuring out what multiclass would benefit from that.

A Sometimes Food
Dec 8, 2010

I'm kidding



Walrus Pete posted:

I can't believe I never saw anyone with the backer beta mention this, but I noticed something extremely important in one of the pre-launch streams yesterday.

Original Slicken has returned to us


okay, it's not as disgustingly good thanks to how prone has changed, but still

Right? I was watching AngriestPat's stream and when he used it in the first fight my grin just got bigger every time they fell down again.

ColdIronsBound
Nov 4, 2008


Any idea which classes aren't covered by your companions? Playing PoE 1 as a Paladin made Bird Queen Pallegina surplus to requirements and I'd rather avoid that in the sequel.

Also, is VPN early unlocking still a thing on Steam? If so which country are we best to use for this dumb game.

Urthor
Jul 28, 2014



ColdIronsBound posted:

Any idea which classes aren't covered by your companions? Playing PoE 1 as a Paladin made Bird Queen Pallegina surplus to requirements and I'd rather avoid that in the sequel.

Also, is VPN early unlocking still a thing on Steam? If so which country are we best to use for this dumb game.

It's a single global release date so no VPN unlocking allowed.

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006

Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

ColdIronsBound posted:

Any idea which classes aren't covered by your companions? Playing PoE 1 as a Paladin made Bird Queen Pallegina surplus to requirements and I'd rather avoid that in the sequel.

OP has a list of companions and sidekicks with their classes/multiclasses.

Dan Didio
Apr 6, 2009

OMG!! WeareSOawesome!!



ColdIronsBound posted:

Any idea which classes aren't covered by your companions?

https://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia...fire_companions

Karneios
Nov 5, 2009


I haven't been watching streams so I don't get spoiled, has any of it showed how important power level is to the monk's unarmed damage? I wanna just punch all enemies in their dumb faces for pillars 2 and am trying to decide between monk, monk/devoted fighter and monk/barbarian

CottonWolf
Jul 20, 2012

Could you imagine the step?
It's genius!


Single class monks get some really good abilties at PL8 and 9 and unarmed damage does scale well with power level (plus at max level single classed characters can take Prestige which gives them PL+1 which'll push it even higher). That said, both devoteds (at least in the beta, all devoteds got fist specialised) and barbarians (especially berserkers) are good multiclass choices. Personally I'd go with a barbarian for Frenzy and its upgrades (plus you can take the 0 recovery for 10 seconds on kill ability at max level as a multiclassed barbarian), but fighter will let you be basically unkillable and give consistent damage with no real spikes. They're all good options.

CottonWolf fucked around with this message at May 6, 2018 around 09:35

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

You Win!

Okay, the only way to decide which of my many many many PoE 1 characters I'm going to bring into 2 is to just post in the thread and have you people tell me what to do so I don't have to make decisions at all. Should I start with:

- Wood Elf Ranger
- Pale Elf Rogue
- Hearth Orlan Cipher
- Death Godlike Paladin
- Fire Godlike Monk

I intend to basically remake them and keep their primary class and then multiclassing them into whatever seems good.

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TEENAGE WITCH
Jul 20, 2008

NAH LAD








wew lad

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