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Riotgrrill
Sep 3, 2004

Namtab posted:

Fake an injury and give him a few months off, have him come back as a heel.

note: roman reigns died on the way back to his home planet

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reach42
May 20, 2008

Satan is my lord
Bribe officials and kill goats
Hail Satan, Go Hawks

Shinjobi posted:

Looking forward to someone finding a silver lining to that show

The opener, the elias segment, aj-nak. that's about it.

Arsonist Daria
Feb 27, 2011

Requiescat in pace.

SamuraiFoochs posted:

Roman is more dead in the water than any wrestler I've ever seen at any spot on the card.

why is he still employed

NowonSA
Jul 19, 2013

I am the sexiest poster in the world!

Lumberjack Bonanza posted:

styles/nakamura was great but gently caress that ending

Absolutely, but a poo poo ending can only hurt a great match so much. I mean, it can hurt a lot, but not enough to totally throw it in the trash. I'm still really glad I got to see Styles and Nakamura show off what they can really do.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Lumberjack Bonanza posted:

why is he still employed

spite

OldTennisCourt
Sep 11, 2011

by VideoGames
I just realized that Diesel would get a higher pop than Roman at this point.

Arsonist Daria
Feb 27, 2011

Requiescat in pace.

NowonSA posted:

Absolutely, but a poo poo ending can only hurt a great match so much. I mean, it can hurt a lot, but not enough to totally throw it in the trash. I'm still really glad I got to see Styles and Nakamura show off what they can really do.

I mean yeah but also gently caress you vince you piece of poo poo

Borrowed Ladder
May 4, 2007

monarch of the sleeping marches

SatoshiMiwa posted:

I think Dave and Bryan are going to be extra Salty on this show due to the GRR and also watching Tanahashi/Okada

I always have a harder time dealing with WWE bullshit when there's a NJPW show

Destroy My Sweater
Jul 24, 2009

he gets a reaction just turn him heel he won't be a "cool" heel he'll get heat or whatever like why don't they get tired of muting him it goes so far beyond vince being stubborn right right?????

Arsonist Daria
Feb 27, 2011

Requiescat in pace.

OldTennisCourt posted:

I just realized that Diesel would get a higher pop than Roman at this point.

Kevin Nash is one of the biggest pieces of poo poo in wrestling history but he was better for the business by miles than roman

Dango Bango
Jul 26, 2007

Borrowed Ladder posted:

I always have a harder time dealing with WWE bullshit when there's an NXT show

Big Coffin Hunter
Aug 13, 2005

SamuraiFoochs posted:

Roman is more dead in the water than any wrestler I've ever seen at any spot on the card.

the comparison is always Diesel in 1995... but peep the year THAT WAS ONLY 1995 this has been FOUR loving YEARS

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Carmella is right to brag, she beat Charlotte clean.

Arsonist Daria
Feb 27, 2011

Requiescat in pace.
loving Fake Diesel would get more of a pop than Roman

shiksa
Nov 9, 2009

i went to one of these wrestling shows and it was... honestly? frickin boring. i wanna see ricky! i want to see his gold chains and respect for the ftw lifestyle

OldTennisCourt posted:

I just realized that Diesel would get a higher pop than Roman at this point.

yeah people love big sexy. obviously.

Ragnarok the Red
Jun 21, 2002

Destroy My Sweater posted:

he gets a reaction just turn him heel he won't be a "cool" heel he'll get heat or whatever like why don't they get tired of muting him it goes so far beyond vince being stubborn right right?????

What's amazing is Raw is in dire need of heels right now. Brock's part time, Kevin & Sami are being punished for the Syria/Saudi bullshit which is dragging them down, and after them it's a huge drop down to Jinder/Dolph/Drew.

But nah, let's just turn Finn or something, not like the crowd enjoys cheering him or anything.

Gumball Gumption
Jan 7, 2012

Know what is weird to me? Roman doesn't even look like Vince's type anymore. The vest doesn't hide that he has let himself go.

Arsonist Daria
Feb 27, 2011

Requiescat in pace.
the champ

is thirsty

Your Parents
Jul 19, 2017

by R. Guyovich
:stat: "Was that the go home show?"

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OldTennisCourt
Sep 11, 2011

by VideoGames
Vickie Guerrero holding a sign saying "Benoit for HOF" while kicking Braun in the balls would get a bigger pop than Roman

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

It's weird as well because Vince knows how crowd psychology works and has been doing this his entire life. He has to know this isn't working.

The only think I can think of is the sunk cost fallacy

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Namtab posted:

Fake an injury and give him a few months off, have him come back as a heel.

I posted recently about the rise of the hate of Roman and it can all be traced back to him getting injured and them cutting to him to give Roman injury updates entirely sincerely showing the rehab of The Big Dog.

Capsaicin
Nov 17, 2004

broof roof roof

Dave Meltzer posted:

We'll be talking about this later tonight. And during awards season.

goddamn, dave

Arsonist Daria
Feb 27, 2011

Requiescat in pace.
we don't deserve the goddamn miz man

Dango Bango
Jul 26, 2007

Namtab posted:

It's weird as well because Vince knows how crowd psychology works and has been doing this his entire life. He has to know this isn't working.

The only think I can think of is the sunk cost fallacy

Any idiot can tell just from the crowd reaction people don't like Roman

OldTennisCourt
Sep 11, 2011

by VideoGames
The Big Dog is such a loving awful nick name

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat
Love him or hate him, you gotta admit Roman exists.

Dango Bango
Jul 26, 2007

OldTennisCourt posted:

The Big Dog is such a loving awful nick name

This is 100% of the nicknames that are overly forced into commentary

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Roman needs to figure out a new move and also gain the endurance to hold matches that are main event length without 15 rest holds.

Arsonist Daria
Feb 27, 2011

Requiescat in pace.

Push El Burrito posted:

Love him or hate him, you gotta admit Roman exists.

I refuse

Big Coffin Hunter
Aug 13, 2005

Push El Burrito posted:

Love him or hate him, you gotta admit Roman exists.

not if i leave the arena when the match starts

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

OldTennisCourt posted:

The Big Dog is such a loving awful nick name

but without it we don't get Cole's amazing "1-2-IT'S THE BIG DOG'S YARD" call.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Dango Bango posted:

This is 100% of the nicknames that are overly forced into commentary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdsaHO-nUG4

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Ahaha ha Miz owns

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon
the most mush shee show

OldTennisCourt
Sep 11, 2011

by VideoGames

Holy pro click batman

the escape goat
Apr 16, 2008

man. why is WWE like this.

Arsonist Daria
Feb 27, 2011

Requiescat in pace.

the escape goat posted:

man. why is WWE like this.

vince isn't dead yet

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Can wwe survive without Vince though

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CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

Where the big boys RAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGH FUCK YOU

Namtab posted:

Can wwe survive without Vince though

With the Network? It can probably coast along on inertia for at least a decade even if they somehow lost a TV host

Remember that in the mid-90s Raw was being run out of literal high school gymnasiums and taping weeks at a time, if poo poo ever got real bad they could just decamp the company to Full Sail and run everything from there because no matter how bad it gets you can probably fill that place with diehards

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