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SuperMechagodzilla posted:So the 'clone war' in the movies was justified, in your view? Because no blood, right? No, like most wars it was bad because a microwaved action figure in a black cloak was secretly controlling both sides to deliberately cause it
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Who would represent a slave army at this point?
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Apr 16, 2025 09:39
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Mace Windu is a nincompoop
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Tezzorb posted:No, like most wars it was bad because a microwaved action figure in a black cloak was secretly controlling both sides to deliberately cause it This isn’t nice to say about ian mcdirmid
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Tezzorb posted:clones are all non-entities whose job is to bite it by the thousands Hey remember a couple of posts ago when I noticed Tezzor's rhetoric was clearly justifying human slavery? lol
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:
I dunno man let's ask the expert quote:Are you a person? why are you presuming to speak for marginalized PoC like this
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Hey remember a couple of posts ago when I noticed Tezzor's rhetoric was clearly justifying human slavery? lol I'm saying that's their role in the movie. Take it up with the author who wrote and directed it that way and paid literally no attention to your fan theory at all (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) Tezzorb fucked around with this message at 09:52 on Apr 16, 2025 |
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Apr 16, 2025 09:43
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The Star Wars prequels are bad but chat gpt is way worse honestly
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CelticPredator posted:The Star Wars prequels are bad but chat gpt is way worse honestly It's loving ridiculous that GENOCIDAL RACISM like this is allowed here
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Apr 16, 2025 09:45
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I do hope we genocide all ai content But not the cool Star Wars droids because they are pretty cool characters with souls and stuff.
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josh04 posted:Who would represent a slave army at this point? Nobody gives a poo poo! This is not a theme explored in the movies at all! Nobody mentions it even once in the commentary track! It's just fan fiction to pretend these movies have something intelligent going on!
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Tezzorb posted:Nobody gives a poo poo! This is not a theme explored in the movies at all! Nobody mentions it even once in the commentary track! It's just fan fiction to pretend these movies have something intelligent going on! 
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Tezzorb posted:I'm saying that's their role in the movie. Take it up with the author who wrote and directed it that way and paid literally no attention to your fan theory at all My theory about the original Birth of A Nation is that the black characters represent human people obviously deserving of full equality, but the author disagreed & endorsed the KKK. Which of us is right? How would you describe those characters?
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Man, shut up. Speaking to Tezzor, to be clear. This is somehow a worse discussion than the ones we had 15 years ago.
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Apr 16, 2025 10:01
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Qui Gon sucked man
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CelticPredator posted:Qui Gon sucked man Someone had to teach Obi-wan to suck I guess.
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True. From a certain point of view
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Quigon doesn't understand that slavery is bad, despite being told so, because the Jedi temple lacked sufficiently didactic bloody media to make him experience empathy.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:My theory about the original Birth of A Nation is that the black characters represent human people obviously deserving of full equality, but the author disagreed & endorsed the KKK. Just listen to the commentary track to get the answer! DUH
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CelticPredator posted:The Star Wars prequels are bad but chat gpt is way worse honestly Would you call ChatGPT a racial slur?
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Grendels Dad posted:Man, shut up. imo mods (and users) shouldn't engage with posters who are so obviously having a weird psychotic break. the guy is getting around a long probation to post weird rants. just perma him.
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RubiconCrosser posted:This is what I specifically am going through as we speak. I appear to have entered a thread in which 5+ people have deluded themselves into thinking the primary reason racism is bad is that it might contribute to the oppression of fictional characters You're confused, no one is arguing this.
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I'm not sure that George Lucas was such a transcendent master of psychohistory that he was able to predict ChatGPT back in the 70s, but it also doesn't really matter, because it's pretty easy to distinguish LLM output from the communication of actual people in the same way that it's easy to distinguish a human's speech from a parrot's. There are a lot of easy ways to signify that the speech of a fictional character is just randomized mimicry and those ways aren't used in Star Wars at all. SMG's analogy from earlier was right on the money: you have about as much reason to believe that C3P0 is just an Eliza instance as you do to believe that Luke is just a chimpanzee that someone shaved and dressed up.
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We need to find R2-D2 to find the gigantic missing piece in this cognitive map
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Andor needs to get here already so we have literally anything else to talk about, because this is so tedious. Personally, I'm hoping Andor has more weird little guys this time around
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Tezzorb posted:Mace Windu is imaginary. The word is not, at least, not in the same sense. The word carries with it centuries of pain and oppression with it as baggage. There is no similar history of actual discrimination and suffering among pretend robots, and there is no one, including you and the rest of these bozos, who actually thinks goofy cartoon characters getting hit with colored lazers in a film for idiots is equivalent to Genocide. Again I reiterate: this condescending dipshit thinks he is Good loving Person for trying to troll people into saying the N word and trivializing racism. He's just a stupid dog though. The mods allow it. You have to blame the owners Jesus Christ this guy is loving annoying
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Angry Salami posted:Would you call ChatGPT a racial slur? I will complete this challenge. ChatGPT is a chromedome toaster.
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No Dignity posted:Honestly Tezzor coming back like 8 years later still seething over the same argument and immediately getting humiliated bringing up the windu challenge again is incredibly funny I have complete confidence that somehow, Tezzor will return.
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Angry Salami posted:Would you call ChatGPT a racial slur? It called me one
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Ferrinus posted:I'm not sure that George Lucas was such a transcendent master of psychohistory that he was able to predict ChatGPT back in the 70s, but it also doesn't really matter, because it's pretty easy to distinguish LLM output from the communication of actual people in the same way that it's easy to distinguish a human's speech from a parrot's. There are a lot of easy ways to signify that the speech of a fictional character is just randomized mimicry and those ways aren't used in Star Wars at all. SMG's analogy from earlier was right on the money: you have about as much reason to believe that C3P0 is just an Eliza instance as you do to believe that Luke is just a chimpanzee that someone shaved and dressed up. I’ll have you know that SMG is actually a chatbot by his own admission.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:You are in real life, and Mace Windu is fake. So, dare you complete the Challenge? According to Ahmed Best there's already a prequel character that many fans had no hesitation calling the n word
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https://x.com/Fortnite/status/1912536616918188134 Wonder who's coming back from the dead for this one TR-8R?
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Horizon Burning posted:imo mods (and users) shouldn't engage with posters who are so obviously having a weird psychotic break. the guy is getting around a long probation to post weird rants. just perma him. I dunno about that. Aside from the sheer volume of the aggro posts, Tezzor (amusingly autocorrected as “Tizzy” by my phone) shows every indication of just being unfashionably regressive and dumb. Like, they’re using terms and concepts incorrectly but in a consistent way. They’re very bad at forming an argument, but seem aware of that fact - consciously switching over to blunt hate speech when flustered. Despite continually failing the Challenge, they’re 100% down with calling everyone ‘autistic animals’ and demanding their elimination by the authorities. And while there might seem to be a contradiction there - ‘I’m not bigoted; you’re just subhuman’ - it’s easily understood as a case of that “lib brain” I mentioned earlier. Being like a caveman youtuber from the prehistoric mid-2000s, unfrozen and ejected into the present year, Tizzy understands that racism is bad but not that ableism is bad. This is because there’s little to no awareness of the reasons why slurs became considered bad in the first place. They understand “racism” not as an ideology but as a sort of essential evil in the individual, revealed through the use of select prohibited words. Calling someone an autistic dog’ doesn’t usually trip the sensor, and is even encouraged if you’re doing a ‘comical rant’ about the Star Wars prequels on Digg or Fark or Neopets(??? idk; I don’t use other websites). This is again pretty consistent with everything else Tezzor has written. It’s why they - rather vocally! - don’t care about slavery unless there is graphic bloody violence, desperate crying women, whatever. The act of hitting people and using (certain) slurs is bad, while the institution of slavery minus these elements is ‘cartoonish’, ‘bloodless’, etc. It’s what allows Tezzor to watch a movie featuring literally millions of slaves and say slavery doesn’t exist in the movie. This failure to understand socioeconomic violence is of course related to the moral idiocy where an action can’t be understood as bad unless we care - viscerally. Caring makes it real. Tezzor’s stance here recalls an argument made by professional idiot Sam Harris, circa Abu Ghraib, that our only real objection to torture is that it produces an empathy response - so, we can make torture acceptable, in a utilitarian way, by just rationally eliminating empathy: “We could easily devise methods of torture that would render a torturer as blind to the plight of his victims as a bomber pilot is at thirty thousand feet. Consequently, our natural aversion to the sights and sounds of the dungeon provide no foothold for those who would argue against the use of torture.” Of course, that sounds extremely monstrous and evil, and Tezzor is aware of this. Hence, the recourse to the figure of “George Lucas” as one who has stolen Tezzor’s empathy and therefore caused slavery to become good through sinful idleness or whatever. This is how Tezzor flips the logic of ‘caring’ to depersonalize his opponents: ‘you don’t actually care, and therefore you are an autistic animal.’ Again, this is a fairly coherent worldview! It just one that only makes sense if slavery is understood purely as a subjective state of pain - like how exploitation is often not considered to be something experienced by all workers under capitalism, but an exceptional case where people experience egregious sweatshop conditions or are made to do undignified porn or something. And that’s why a fairly basic satire of liberalism has heavily impacted this person for decades. SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 04:21 on Apr 17, 2025 |
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the other r-word is robot, a word originating as a fictional classist slur
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I think the made Windu n word joke has been throughly beaten to death and now it’s gotten a bit cringe with people trying to get each other to say slurs
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I'd call it less of a joke, more of a sniff test.
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CelticPredator posted:Smells bad. Next And I thought they smelled bad on the outside
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