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galagazombie
Oct 31, 2011


I still maintain my "Anarchic Wild West" approach with a New Republic that has rectified the sins of the Old but is still young and small (and thus geographically far from the plot) would have been the ideal setting for the sequels.

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Babysitter Super Sleuth
Apr 26, 2012

THERE'S FASCISM IN MY GIANT ROBOT ANIMES


Taika has shown that he’s entirely willing to completely compromise his artistic talents in the name of delivering a no-drama product, so I fully expect that his Star Wars is going to come out on time, at budget, with no backstage horseshit, and be deeply boring and unglamorous so he can fund another Jojo Rabbit or something.

Mat Cauthon
Jan 2, 2006

The more tragic things get, the more I feel like laughing.

Fallen Rib

Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:

Taika has shown that he’s entirely willing to completely compromise his artistic talents in the name of delivering a no-drama product, so I fully expect that his Star Wars is going to come out on time, at budget, with no backstage horseshit, and be deeply boring and unglamorous so he can fund another Jojo Rabbit or something.

Yeah whatever he turns in will be extremely safe and entertaining and family friendly, although I'm sure he will include some nods to stuff on the sly like he did the Maori inspired designs and the subtle colonialism themes in Thor 3. It'll be entertaining and make a bunch of money so he can do another WWDitS movie or something.

Darko posted:

Disney refused to make a protagonist a once terrorist in Rogue One to the point of reshooting half of the movie; they absolutely don't like any kind of real world parallels of nuance with their Star Wars.

I still want to see that cut. Once you know about those changes the seams in the finished version are just unignorable. Still good though.

Ingmar terdman
Jul 24, 2006



The sequels going to d+ right before a quarantine is going to create a new generation of kids that really vibe with rey's scratching the days off inside a decaying imperialist war machine on a parched planet

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006



I just finished Solar Opposites on Hulu. It wasn't bad. The last episode had a Phantom Menace parody sequence. Which got me thinking, I don't remember the last time I saw a Prequel parody in mainstream media. The OT had been parodied to death through mainstream movies and shows, as well as having a fan film industry for a while. But the PT never got that treatment. I'm sure part of that is due to how it never reached the same pop culture impact as the OT had, that would have been impossible. And the bad reputation they have, but that's currently been being rehabilitated (but not for the reasons Disney intended).

But you go on the internet and there's no end to the memes, fan videos, and the like. Revenge of the Sith came out right around the birth of YouTube. I'm sure it all shifted there and memes.

Oh, and here's a video of Kermit the Frog as Palpatine.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

I haven't kept a tally but if I see a meme or joke video edit or something that references Star Wars in any way, it's overwhelmingly likely to be the prequels. Just the other day I saw a version of the Anakin/Obi-Wan fight with edited VO to suggest that Obi-Wan hates Anakin for being a "simp" who posts "cringe"

Pretty good
Apr 16, 2007





drat the shot of Windu's lightsaber falling and dinking off the side of the building actually kinda owns.

Mat Cauthon
Jan 2, 2006

The more tragic things get, the more I feel like laughing.

Fallen Rib

This is pretty good casting, all the additions for season 2 are solid.

https://twitter.com/Variety/status/...9709867008?s=19

Honestly more excited about the fact they got Michael Biehn in there than any of the bigger names.

Grandpa Palpatine
Dec 13, 2019







Mat Cauthon posted:

Honestly more excited about the fact they got Michael Biehn in there than any of the bigger names.

James Cameron director status: confirmed

dialhforhero
Apr 3, 2008


I saw a video of Michael Biehn dunk off his rear end looking grizzly as gently caress saying some phrase from Aliens and it made me sad hoping he is okay

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013



I think he just gets loaded when he has to do cameo vids.
I would

Darko
Dec 23, 2004



dialhforhero posted:

I saw a video of Michael Biehn dunk off his rear end looking grizzly as gently caress saying some phrase from Aliens and it made me sad hoping he is okay

I met him at Motor City Comicon last year and he seemed a lot older but okay enough.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Crook County

Getting loaded before being exploited by heartless capitalists is how I survived living in America for so long.

Captain Splendid
Jan 7, 2009

Qu'en pense Caffarelli?

I thought I'd have a stab at modelling Snoke's ship

Vinylshadow
Mar 20, 2017


Captain Splendid posted:

I thought I'd have a stab at modelling Snoke's ship



You forgot the last step of stretching it 300% along the y axis

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.




I made myself laugh the other day imagining what the scene where Luke discovers his crispy aunt and uncle would be like if it was in a mediocre movie made today like the MCU or something. The first shot would be Luke's eyes bulging out as a woman's voice from a communicator says "Luke, don't look...!" Then there'd be a pornographically slow close up pan over one of the CGI burnt bodies, quick cut to Luke breaking into a sprint, then he falls to his knees and there's a face closeup as he looks at the sky and screams and there are veins bulging out everywhere and he's got stubble. Instead of John Williams score the music is totally forgettable and quiet anyway. Then it cuts to Vader standing over a holo-chess board with pieces that look like the aunt and uncle and he flicks them over

Darko
Dec 23, 2004



Outside of the Infinity movies, Marvel doesn't do genuine. There would have to be some joke inserted there.

Robot Style
Jul 5, 2009



Jewel Repetition posted:

quick cut to Luke breaking into a sprint, then he falls to his knees and there's a face closeup as he looks at the sky and screams

Mark Hamill actually wanted to do this, but Lucas got him to do a more neutral performance so he could use the Kuleshov effect to have the audience project the emotion onto Luke empathetically.

multijoe
Oct 15, 2007

how do i say this ... the first time i saw that ultimate life form ... i had a boner

Fun Shoe

I just took it that Luke wasn't really that cut up about losing his family because they were the ones holding him on Tatooine and now he has the excuse he needs to go off adventuring with Kenobi

G-III
Mar 4, 2001



Darko posted:

Disney refused to make a protagonist a once terrorist in Rogue One to the point of reshooting half of the movie; they absolutely don't like any kind of real world parallels of nuance with their Star Wars.

They fear demonstrating anything other than the most lukewarm mildly liberal politics that only enforces the status quo. From a business strategy it makes sense as it allows them to sell the movie to a wider audience but the end result is that they make material that speaks in glittering generalities and never actually says anything. This is why the sequel trilogy came out as a bland bowl of mush.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

One death is a tragedy, ten deaths is a statistic. Especially if it saves my job.


The Searchers is pretty relevant in any discussion of the Luke arriving at the burning homestead scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30N-weocZT4#t=24s

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011


multijoe posted:

I just took it that Luke wasn't really that cut up about losing his family because they were the ones holding him on Tatooine and now he has the excuse he needs to go off adventuring with Kenobi

This, but also feeling guilty about feeling this while feeling guilty for not being there.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 2 hours!


multijoe posted:

I just took it that Luke wasn't really that cut up about losing his family because they were the ones holding him on Tatooine and now he has the excuse he needs to go off adventuring with Kenobi

Is this sociopathy?

TheBigBudgetSequel
Nov 25, 2008

It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me.


Ravenfood posted:

This, but also feeling guilty about feeling this while feeling guilty for not being there.

That's how I've always read his emotions. He clearly didn't care all that much for them, knew they weren't really his family, but he felt guilty as hell that while he was gone, this horrible thing happened, and he's also torn up that he doesn't feel that much sadness at their loss.

Also had a funny thought that had the stormtroopers managed to get there before he ventured off to find R2, they'd have killed him as well (like Obi-Wan mentions) and Vader would never be turned back to the light. WHoops!

Ingmar terdman
Jul 24, 2006



I've started to believe that Ben was doing a fake willy wonka "wait, please, don't go" to Luke as he zipped off. Seeing the scorched bodies is a deliberate part of radicalizing him against the Empire and Vader specifically. Getting cut down by Vader in front of Luke is part of this too. Becoming "more powerful than you can imagine" is less about being a ghost, and more about becoming a symbol/cementing Luke against Vader (which ultimately is a mistake) etc

It worked so well that Luke must have convinced his sister to name her son after the guy haha

Mandrel
Sep 24, 2006



yeah I’m pretty sure Luke is upset about his adoptive parents who’ve raised him his whole life getting blasted into smoking skeletons and left for him to find

it feels weird to even have to argue that point

Mandrel
Sep 24, 2006



like when I was 17 or 18 I really wanted to run off and go on adventures and get out from under my parents wing too, but not more than I wanted them not to be gunned down and turned into skeletons

i guess if I had been adopted though, maybe it’s different. any adopted kids in the thread here to chime in?

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 2 hours!


Mandrel posted:

yeah I’m pretty sure Luke is upset about his adoptive parents who’ve raised him his whole life getting blasted into smoking skeletons and left for him to find

it feels weird to even have to argue that point

It's why modern films need to spend half their run time explaining the story to the audience. People decide Luke doesn't give a poo poo if they don't. Clearly he wants to go have fun space adventures, so gently caress aunt Beru.

Ingmar terdman
Jul 24, 2006



LUKE
These are the same Jawas that sold
us Artoo and Threepio.

BEN
And these blast points, too accurate
for Sandpeople. Only Imperial
stormtroopers are so precise.

LUKE
Why would Imperial troops want to
slaughter Jawas?

Luke looks back at the speeder where Artoo and Threepio are
inspecting the dead Jawas, and put two and two together.

LUKE
If they traced the robots here, they
may have learned who they sold them
to. And that would lead them home!

Luke looks into the camera and lowers his sunglasses.

LUKE

Can you say 'road trip'?

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS


Hair Elf

It's important not to miss what ANH is telling us about the characters and setting by imagining how you would react if it were your parents/guardians getting gunned down by space soldiers

To expand on earlier points, Skywalker definitely feels sad & guilty but he grew up in the frontier, in a fortified compound, where life is very cheap. Owen almost certainly raised Luke on the story of what happened to his own mother. Neither of them bat an eye when a slave commits suicide right in front of them. Luke is experienced at shooting womp rats, etc.

He's not a hard-bitten killer or anything like that, but he's not gonna hesitate to waste a moon's worth of people either

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

One death is a tragedy, ten deaths is a statistic. Especially if it saves my job.


Do we know what happened to Owen’s mother?

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS


Hair Elf

Isn't she Schmi? My memory is fuzzy

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

From my point of view, the Jedi are evil. But what really is... evil?

Blood Boils posted:

Isn't she Schmi? My memory is fuzzy

Shmi was Owen's stepmother, Cliegg's second wife. Owen and Anakin are about the same age.

Kart Barfunkel
Nov 10, 2009



Lol that Rey’s parents/Palpatine’s son don’t even have names.

No Mods No Masters
Oct 3, 2004

Hi!


I heard for the novelization they decided her dad was just some escaped palpatine clone or something, I guess it’s kind of plausible he didn’t really have a name

OctoberCountry
Oct 9, 2012


Kart Barfunkel posted:

Lol that Rey’s parents/Palpatine’s son don’t even have names.

Sheev Jr took his wife's last name, Nobahdi

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006



No Mods No Masters posted:

I heard for the novelization they decided her dad was just some escaped palpatine clone or something, I guess it’s kind of plausible he didn’t really have a name

You get emotionally and romantically attached to a woman you eventually come up with a name. Even the Clone Troopers all came up with their own names, which they held with pride.

Vinylshadow
Mar 20, 2017


It's Sheeev Palpatine, come on

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010



Still lolling that sheev FUCKS

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No Mods No Masters
Oct 3, 2004

Hi!


*Pabloishly* Canonically speaking, the story group has made it very clear that Sheev Never hosed

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