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Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

a happy ending!

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Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

helluva time to check out the star wars thread

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Schwarzwald posted:

Mine was The Lighthouse, which unfortunately became a little too prophetic.

Knives Out for me I think. Great choice.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Have to be honest seeing that Twilek dancer die is such a tonal shift from the rest of the movie it always bummed me out. Way to earn that PG rating

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Ghost Leviathan posted:

That's probably the idea. The whole point is to be an establishing moment for Jabba's character and what it means to be living in his palace, despite the whole vibe of a place where the party never stops, it's the den of a cruel and decadent crime lord whose whims are law, and everyone and everything in it serves his depraved whims or becomes his entertainment one way or another. He's not a safe kids movie gangster who looks dangerous and cool but never actually does anything bad onscreen.

*coldly executes a sex worker*

alright time for Han Solo to kill Boba Fett with his butt

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Disney is too stupid to understand to make Star Wars you need to rip off something else wholesale and add lasers and spaceships. You can't make Star Wars flavoured Star Wars because that ends up as nothing flavoured.

Watched a video about how the Penguin show is actually good all the more because it's shamelessly ripping off the Sopranos, and all the most loved comics shamelessly rip off pop culture similarly, remixing what's hot in a new way. Superhero movies get boring when they're not actually ripping off anything but the last movie. Nolan and Snyder get this.

Yeah it's like Miyazaki talking poo poo about current anime because young animators only consume other anime. You gotta be diverse in your intake.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Doctor Spaceman posted:

It's a pretty revealing change and isn't just the staff; her robes are also grey in live action rather than white, because Filoni wanted to redo the Ahsoka the White thing.

That loving nerd

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Separatists being controlled by corporations is too smart for Star Wars and somehow also too dumb, it exists in a dual state

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Vinylshadow posted:

12 episodes of 3 blocks each, covering 4BBY to 1BBY

Ghorman Massacre took place 2BBY, so that's probably going to be Mon Mothma's major story block and includes her declaration of Rebellion from Rebels season three (going to be curious if they actually adapt that or we hear it from someone else's point of view, since odds are it's going to impact Andor and Krennic's stories as well - for the latter, it's probably going to help sway things his way in his feud with Tarkin over the Death Star (before they ultimately sway back during Rogue One)

Only watched bits of Rogue One, how does the slimy guy from ANH talking about his "battlestation" figure into the Tarkin/Krennic hierarchy.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Nice. Also the dude dint have a name until.2007?

I love that scene of them bickering before Vader stepped in. Incredibly Andor vibes.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Vinylshadow posted:

It's why I keep coming back to the duel in The Lawless, since it's Palpatine dropping the mask and utterly dominating the scene - it's basically the RotS "I am the Senate" scene but fully realized without the limitations of live-action - dude's having the time of his life since he can be himself after decades of careful quiet manipulation and planning

googling the Lawless brings up a shia lebouf movie. is this an episode from the cartoon?

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

josh04 posted:

For Sheev in Andor you need to take him back to the Chancellor Palpatine persona, for sure, otherwise as SMG says you're just doing the Vader cameo in Rogue One again but backwards - "there's always a bigger fish". So he's got to be in the Mon Mothma sphere - something on the arc leading up to him dissolving the senate in New Hope, where the actions of the senate are frustrating him somehow Maybe also he's further down the path from the friendly, open-plan office Sheev we remember from episode 2 to the bored, hermetical Emperor from episode 6. So perhaps he calls in Mon Mothma or Jimmy Smits for a bit of personal schmoozing, a bit of we're-all-in-this-empire-together, and he's offering something generous for the world(s) they represent if they'll give up their opposition to his plan to deploy more regional governers. But he's lost his charm a little bit what with having been melted, and he mostly doesn't talk face-to-face - he's sitting in his big red robes from ep 3 facing out the window and the talking is all done in quiet voices through a personal assistant, a Mas Amedda or a Jarjar, who's ferrying terms back and forth across the room. Instead of the full court of Jedi and Senators he used to hang out with it's just the three of them, outnumbered by guards. You could almost believe he's totally decrepid. Boxed into a corner, the senator agrees to a deal and leaves. Sheev rises to his feet and walks round to look at the closing door, noting to his companion that he believes additional reforms might be necessary to crush this rebellion.

always thought that its funny that Star Wars used the same regional governors political gambit that Putin used in the 2000s

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

CelticPredator posted:

It could’ve had a nice lead up if maybe Rey read the books and was like hmm the force is everywhere and I can control and manipulate it what if I could heal someone or something… and then when she stabs Kylo and saves him omg it’s a set up and pay off!!!!

the sequel trilogy was allergic to any sort of training montage. I watched movies in the 80s, I love training montages!!!

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Upsidads posted:

Force dash needs to be used in a race to win a cool lightsaber or breathing apparatus

haven't seen Acolyte or Ahkosa or Mandalorian (that one I plan on remedying real soon). Has Force dash been portrayed in live action in either the movies or live action shows? It's such a video game, cartoony (albeit awesome) power.

e: Man of Steel had some good force dashes. er...sun powered dashes

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Robot Style posted:

The Force Speed thing was actually added in post-production, which is why Obi-Wan doesn't use it later in the movie to catch up to Maul and Qui-Gon.

In the script, the droids are overzealous in their blasting and fill the hallway with smoke, and when it clears the Jedi are already gone. But for whatever reason (potentially pacing, since the slow reveal would probably halt the momentum of the sequence) it was changed to just have them run away with a burst of speed - Ewan McGregor's even wearing his hideous reshoot wig in the shots where they decide to run away.

I think Lucas even mentioned somewhere that his justification was that he'd heard it appeared in a video game.

well that answers that questions thanks

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Bongo Bill posted:

Not everybody can name a little freak like George could. Some people in the Disney era do have the knack, though.

Lucas: His name is...Cute-o Max

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Rochallor posted:

Every time I watch this scene I can't help but notice that Aalya Secura falls over well before she gets shot. It's not even a freeze-frame thing, like you can see that Luke isn't actually kicking guys in ROTJ. She's dead and it's still Order 65.

the beginning of that part before they showed her I thought it was a clip from the CGI cartoon, jesus christ.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Robot Style posted:

I remember that being a pretty common assumption, which is kind of funny since the actual backstory Lucas originally envisioned had Anakin hunting down the Jedi way before he ended up in the suit.

The greatest character arc ever

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Grendels Dad posted:

Order 1 was "Kill all generals" and Sheev had to work through 65 iterations and the minute details of galactic military ranking before he just gave up and put down "Kill all Jedi"

Order 44: ask each jedi the last five goals they've achieved

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

garycoleisgod posted:

That is true, but the only things Gunn has actually been involved in and released so far in DC are The Suicide Squad, Peacemaker and Creature Commandos. He didn't have anything to do with The Penguin, that was pre-existing from the stuff Matt Reeves is doing, so it's probably a bit too early to call Gunn a success or failure yet, if we allow the Suicide Squad box office to be explained by covid/digital release.

Expect a lot of people not involved in the industry (including us!) to pronounce success/failure based on Superman's box office. I'm sure it won't be a terrible time on the internet at all!

Personally I liked Peacemaker, but didn't like Suicide Squad and only watched the first ep of CC, which while not terrible, didn't grab me at all and I didn't care, and I've learned if that's my reaction, just stop watching and move on. I think it's mainly that Gunn's sense of humour doesn't seem to vibe with me. And I actually love when movies actually let themselves be sincere and not do the ironic distance thing, that doesn't seem to work in Gunn's movies for me. A lot of people on the internet really seem to love GotG Vol 2, but I was just cold the entire time. The conflict with Starlord and his two father figures was just a flatline for me.

On the other hand, Rocket's backstory in GotG Vol 3 DID get to me. So who knows? Maybe I just react more to animal cruelty than a manchild growing up.

That My Little Pony meme about the Holocaust but replaced with a murderous shooting raccoon

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Tezzorb posted:

Can I just spend a quick ten dollars to point out what a complete sty this place is? I can? Great! Look at this blithering rear end in a top hat still doing decade-old bits so tired they'd embarrass Yakov Smirnoff, trying to troll people into saying the N word to pretend to Wokely Argue that completely imaginary comedy robots are like oppressed minority groups in real life, something neither he nor anyone else actually takes seriously. Yet a cool and fearless large-dicked poster can't call him a dipshit without getting banned because the mod is a coward who can't deal with a bunch of autists keening like dying elk and rocking back and forth and chewing their fingers to the bone when someone tells them their stupid films are bad. The snake rots from the head.

Oh that weirdo is still being weird about black people 10 years in. Some things never change.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Lol.

The illegal immigrant subtext has been amazing. Never seen any media take that on before other than literature.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Unfortunately, his idea of 'how to act around people' ends up including 'killing lots of them regularly'.

I think the trick with The Clone Wars is that it gave people an excuse to talk about the prequels like a grown-up.

Were people talking about the movies made for children in an infantile way? What????

Anyways Andor did what I needed it to do, mainly provide some dope backgrounds for my laptop.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

CelticPredator posted:

The fact everyone is talking about the stinky rear end prequels and not andor is why Star Wars must die
The final scene in andor was so hopeful and heartbreaking.

Yeah that show is as far as I get in being interested in Star Wars until something comparable rolls by. Skeleton Crew was cool too.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

CelticPredator posted:

Is it worth watching? I was kinda eh about the trailer and feeling a bit burnt out.

Its fun and well made. Ends well too. Big Amblin vibes with a great kid cast.

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Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Its just competently written, with funny dialogue, good acting and great shots, and each episode has a solid three act structure that smoothly moves to the next episode. And more than anything, it ends on a high point.

Rare to see these days for streaming TV.

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