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ungulateman posted:How does shooting lightning out of your hands factor into this? Or is that something you get to do when you're evil regardless of your political and religious affiliations Is finger lightning a dark side thing or a Palpatine thing?
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Mat Cauthon posted:It's pretty well known at this point that movies with visibly Black or Brown main characters don't do well with Chinese audiences (or in Asian markets in general). This is partially why most animated features with dark skinned main characters turn them into animals or ghosts or some other non-human avatar - helps the bottom line overseas. Could you give some examples of this because holy hell
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Just Chamber posted:I mean she didnt? Her and Ben get loving wrecked and she literally is nearly dying and it takes the power of like 10 dead Jedi's to get her back on her feet. They basically collectively took out Palpatine. This did not happen in my showing of the film.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:To be very clear: DJ isn’t talking quietism. His “Not Joining” means that that he actively opposes the Space Contras while aligning himself with the growing leftist contingent within the First Order (e.g. whichever kind soul gave this homeless ex-con/fugitive a big crate of free money). It is interesting to see how the fascist organization treats people that have no power over them vs. the Resistance. The First Order had no obligation to give DJ his crate or his fancy suit but they do. The Resistance gives out decoder rings to the slaves that helped them escape while leaving them in shackles.
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Liking TLJ is the film equivalent of liking all music "except for country and rap." I will not be elaborating.
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Jerkface posted:Donglover getting his own D+ Lando Show. Allegedyly. Not a rumor from a Dr Doom Knockoff. Not that I disagree with the decision but I'm surprised they were able to assign a letter grade to the series before it started filming.
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Jul 22, 2020 21:10
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Shouldn't TRoS -> AotC?
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Jul 31, 2020 19:58
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Grandpa Palpatine posted:Buddy, he doesn't own the city. He's just the administrator. His gas conglomerate corporate bosses own the actual city and infrastructure. Buddy, they don't even let me gently caress the Tibanna gas.
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thrawn527 posted:The annoying part is that there's almost something there. They even filmed part of it for TLJ. There's a silly deleted scene with Tom Hardy playing a Stormtrooper who recognizes Finn in an elevator, that's also actually pretty funny, but plays up that Finn's story could start actually being told as a Stormtrooper who started becoming something bigger. Sure, he thought Finn was promoted instead of being a traitor, but add it to the also deleted alternate scene of Phasma being outed by Finn in front of the other Stormtroopers as being the one who lowered the shields on Starkiller base, and you start to have something. Disney wanted to avoid any potential negative portrayal of black people as revolutionaries so in the ST they limited them to partying and fathering numerous bastard children across the galaxy.
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Oct 20, 2020 21:46
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YOLOsubmarine posted:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_BwlHutl0oE I love the, "I hope you know what you're doing." line. No! He doesn't! Because you won't tell him. You could tell him right now and he would understand the gravity of what he's doing but you're choosing not to. Vice Admiral Jimmy Tightlips.
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General Dog posted:The junior novelization explains that about 70% of the fleet is composed of Lando’s children or past sexual partners. Disney is progressive enough to show a 2 second lesbian kiss between unnamed characters but also made sure to railroad the black lead away from having a relationship with either a white woman or an Asian woman, toward being with a member of his own race who is implied to be the illegitimate abandoned child of the only other black character in the series. In short, Disney is a land of contrasts.
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Apr 10, 2021 14:53
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Robot Style posted:Lucas also mentions in the DVD commentary for the movie that he wanted the Jedi to feel like Godzilla during their attack on the Neimoidians. Then he should have made them a lot taller.
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Apr 29, 2021 12:08
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Doronin posted:I always assumed that "always two there are" was just a figure of speech. Basically, there is never just one. You see one, there's more in the walls, hiding... somewhere. I never thought the Jedi really knew much about the Sith, and seemed pretty confused when rumors began that they came back suddenly. Presumably, Yoda was also the only Jedi living when Sith were a problem before so he'd be the only one with half a clue as to how it works. This makes far more sense but the line in the movie is, "Always two there are. No more, no less."
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May 25, 2021 21:10
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Are there instances in the OT of the characters trying to be funny to each other? My recollection is most of the humor is wry one-liners for the enjoyment of the audience, not the characters in the film. In TLJ I can picture Poe getting back to the hangar, nudging his buddies and saying, "Hey, did you hear that 'your mom' joke I pulled on Hux? Pretty great right?" I don't think the OT really had any lines where the characters were trying to humor one another which might be why the TLJ approach is such a sticking point for fans.
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May 27, 2021 00:27
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YOLOsubmarine posted:If you take the “Nazis in Argentina” analogy to its logical conclusion you end up wondering why US, which is the closest analogue to the Republic for this purpose, allows the newly reformed Nazi Party of South America to slowly expand their territory until they are performing border raids into New Mexico and Arizona. They provide some under the table funding to the contras but publicly disavow any knowledge or involvement. Like the Millenium Falcon lightspeed skipping from planet to planet, the plot of the sequel trilogy expertly maneuvers around the seemingly unavoidable multitude of interesting premises and allegories.
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May 28, 2021 19:29
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Doronin posted:also the most quotable Star War. Well, what did you know?
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Horizon Burning posted:And there it is This is a dumb take but it did remind me of that Star Wars book where an old TIE fighter pilot from the battle of Endor with a busted leg tries to kill Luke Skywalker's kids or something. Did anyone else read that?
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Oct 15, 2021 03:44
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The Cameo posted:That’s the first Young Jedi Knights book. It’s not Endor, it’s on Yavin IV, as Luke is using the former Rebel base as his Jedi academy. The TIE they - Han and Leia’s twin kids - find is one that crashed during the Battle of Yavin. Later they stumble upon the place where the pilot has been living for twenty three years since he crashed. That's it. Yeah elementary school me loved those bad boys.
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moist turtleneck posted:Can't wait for the movie that describes how that one lady got off the gestapo planet without the magic coin needed to get off the planet RoS is an interesting response to TLJ. TLJ teaches us that nothing is worth sacrificing, not unnamed bomber pilots, not Finn’s life as he tries to kamikazee the little Death Star cannon. If something is worth doing then it’s achievable through bloodless effort that costs nothing to the doer. Almost on the level of a deity bestowing favors on their chosen people. RoS posits that because these characters exist in a world run by a capitalist mouse, no sacrifice can be permanent. The characters know that their action figures are too valuable. Blow up Chewie, he’ll show up later. Leave Poe’s friend on a planet where the text confirms she cannot escape, she’ll show up at the end. If TLJ existed in the RoS universe Finn would have definitively blown up the Death Star cannon and then jogged back into base two scenes later.
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Nov 8, 2021 14:38
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Gargamel Gibson posted:It's wrong to sacrifice yourself except when it isn't. I can't believe that I forgot about Holdo. In the RoS version of TLJ, Admiral Holdo would have shown up and said, "Miss me?" and then shown the rebels out of the cave.
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Nov 8, 2021 16:22
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No Mods No Masters posted:I think we've hypothesized in the past that the movie's position is self sacrifice is okay if you aren't pissed off. But thinking about it now, a rival explanation may be that it's ultimately a call for the girl boss of any given moment to make, and submission to their superior judgment is the point "I guess it really was her turn."
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The movie presents the dreadnought and the little death star siege engine as existential threats to the rebels. There is no difference between the 4 different sacrifice scenarios.
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Don't forget, she's also condemning everyone else in the rebel organization - that she supports so strongly that she's willing to taser a hero of the cause for cowardice - to a fiery death as well. I'm beginning to think this Rose character just likes watching people blow up.
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Nov 8, 2021 18:11
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"Will you sacrifice your life/the lives of others to help the rebels escape to fight another day? Poe: "Yes" Movie: "I condemn this." "Will you sacrifice your life/the lives of others to help the rebels escape to fight another day? Holdo: "Yes" Movie: "This is righteous." "Will you sacrifice your life/the lives of others to help the rebels escape to fight another day? Finn: "Yes" Movie: "I condemn this." "Will you sacrifice your life/the lives of others to help the rebels escape to fight another day? Luke: "Yes" Movie: "This is righteous."
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Nov 8, 2021 18:14
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Jerkface posted:In the movie Poe has already delayed the first order enough for the evacuation to be completed and Leia says "Good job, now come back and we can get out of here" but Poe says its too good a chance to pass up and they have to blow up this space ship right now!! Then he trades all his bombers for the dreadnought. He didn't save anyone in that scenario, he spent lives purely to gain some kind of edge in a future battle. The movie is very clear about this. He risked his life and succeeded in allowing the rebels to escape, he didn't need to take further action. I don't know man, the movie is pretty clear when it says that sacrificing lives/materiel to take down a dreadnought so it doesn't blow you up later is the right thing to do.
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AdmiralViscen posted:The sacrifice comparison gets even messier when the movie reveals that all the bombers and pilots would have been destroyed anyway, since the docking bay blows up 5 minutes later. I think it’s reasonable to think that things would have blown up even harder if the dreadnought was still on the field at that time. But either way, those pilots were dying and those bombers were going to be destroyed. I don’t even dislike TLJ but there’s a lot of asterisks on a lot of its plot beats. It's all moot anyway because TLJ's philosophy on sacrifice isn't based on the perceived outcome of the sacrifice but on the motivation of the person making the sacrifice. Rose's, "That's how we're gonna win. Not by fighting what we hate. But saving what we love." line smacks you over the head with it.
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No Mods No Masters posted:Say what you will about it, but the movie was actually quite realistic insofar as a military force organized mainly around policing these extremely vague and stupid mindset principles probably would be left with approximately 12 survivors I got a kick out of Leia triumphantly saying, "We have everything we need right here." when the net difference after the past 12 hours was the death of 99% of the rebel force and the acquisition of some old books.
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Horizon Burning posted:how does she even get there? she is driving AWAY from the first order at 0:09 and then, i guess, does a hard turn to the left and somehow crashes into finn from the side despite him being much, much closer to the beam? and heading away from her? This is one of the things I find most frustrating about TLJ. Just in terms of the way things are depicted, it will visually tell us something has happened already and then go back on it. The best example is Rose’s sister trying to catch the detonator. The film shows the detonator falling all the way past her as she lies on her back watching it. Then there’s a cut and she’s on her stomach having just barely caught the detonator. There’s this repeated technique of showing something bad happening to raise the stakes and then immediately subverting what was just shown on screen, often ways that have been shown to be impossible based on the positioning of the characters. I’ve never seen any other movie do something like that.
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Jerkface posted:This is totally fine though? It flies past her and it cuts to the overhead shot of it falling from the bay but in that same shot her arm reaches out and catches it. Then it cuts to show she had rolled onto her stomach to catch it. Eh, if it doesn't bother you that's fine. It bothered me and it sounds like that style of editing bothered the other dude too. Can't think of any other movies that use that method. Edit: Yeah it's at like 10:55 if you watch it on Disney+.
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euphronius posted:Why does a Star ship even need an intake space
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The United States posted:Is there a single ship in star wars that doesn't also operate in atmosphere? There were two! They were pretty central to the plot of the OT.
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feedmyleg posted:Nah. That would imply that he's pivotal to the story. And that Finn is a powerful Sith lord.
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The United States posted:https://twitter.com/JohnDiLillo/status/1490481622692605952 I've heard about a zillion criticisms of TLJ but "Mark Hamill turned in a bad acting performance" has never been one of them. Dude's just making up an imaginary guy to be mad at.
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stev posted:Favreau's never been a great writer or director. He was involved in Iron Man 1 and was incredibly lucky that it spawned one of the most lucrative media franchises of all time. Now Disney gives him everything and most of it ends up being mediocre or incredibly disappointing. He's not a good actor either. I enjoyed Chef where he not only manages to make better beignets than anyone in New Orleans, and better barbecue than anyone in Austin, but in doing so repairs his relationship with his ex-wife Sofia Vergara while loving Scarlett Johansson.
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Halloween Jack posted:Vader's not trying to build a family, though; he wants to usurp the Emperor and bring order to the galaxy. That's the very definition of building a family.
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General Dog posted:Could they do that but be a little less condescending than portraying the audience as a child with a decoder ring shoveling poo poo? Who was intentionally left in servitude.
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FunkyAl posted:I did not actually see the film, the marketing was pushing the quirky comedy hitler ghost hard enough to put me off the whole deal. That's usually a pretty good way of understanding the nuances of a film.
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"Just rewatched the trailer for Jurassic Park on youtube. Boy am I glad I missed that stinker. What kind of movie would endorse a dinosaur amusement park?? Seems like a bad idea from the get go. Not sure why the movie wouldn't address it."
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Better Call Star (Wars)
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Lampsacus posted:oh poo poo watch order time! All the evens, then all the odds
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